Judge dismisses James Comey and Letitia James cases, finding prosecutor's appointment invalid

[Factotum]

Donald's financial shenanigans were well known in New York and have been for decades.

Yes, the largest and most-criminal city in the Western Hemisphere --with the most loan-securing businesses in USA history... had never before, in 105yrs, experienced this type of crime until Trump was charged with it.

 

[Factotum]

Trump Derangement Syndrome is real!!

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/3432/text#:~:text=A%20BILL,reactions%20and%20deepening%20societal%20division.

 

[DaisyDay]

Trump Derangement Syndrome is real!!

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/3432/text#:~:text=A%20BILL,reactions%20and%20deepening%20societal%20division.

Ordinarily, that phrase is one of the forbidden, but it seems apropos here. But what an unserious Congress we have! One part I don't get is why this was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce.

Latest Action:	House - 05/15/2025 Referred to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce.

 

[DaisyDay]

Yes, the largest and most-criminal city in the Western Hemisphere --with the most loan-securing businesses in USA history... had never before, in 105yrs, experienced this type of crime until Trump was charged with it.

Oh look! A deflection! Not taking the derailment bait, thanks just the same.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Yes, I agree with that. As it is the sole point I was trying to make... that Tish likely sat up, imagined that Trump might be committing the same bank criminality she's been committing for decades, created a campaign around the goal of prosecuting him, then... charged him, just like she promised to if she won.

Just a reprehensible and corrupt woman.

This presumes that James committed a crime. Given the lack of success in even obtaining an indictment against her, that seems a very dubious presumption to make.

 

[Desk trauma]

Ordinarily, that phrase is one of the forbidden, but it seems apropos here. But what an unserious Congress we have! One part I don't get is why this was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce.

Latest Action:	House - 05/15/2025 Referred to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce.

Sufficient drawer space for it to die quietly in.

 

[A2SG]

Yes, the largest and most-criminal city in the Western Hemisphere --with the most loan-securing businesses in USA history... had never before, in 105yrs, experienced this type of crime until Trump was charged with it.

Incorrect. New York Executive Law Section 63(12) has been on the books since 1956, and has been used to successfully prosecute many cases, including Exxon Mobil in 2018 and Martin Shkreli.

-- A2SG, that was very easy to debunk, you need to do better research....

 

[Factotum]

Incorrect. New York Executive Law Section 63(12) has been on the books since 1956, and has been used to successfully prosecute many cases, including Exxon Mobil in 2018 and Martin Shkreli.

-- A2SG, that was very easy to debunk, you need to do better research....

I don't think Exxon Mobil nor Shkreli showed up to sit at any defendant's table, in this similar circumstance:

"Trump and his lawyers said his financial statements weren’t deceptive, since they came with disclaimers noting they weren’t audited. The defense also noted that bankers and insurers independently evaluated the numbers, and the loans were repaid... Trump’s lawyers argued that many of the case’s allegations were too old... The defense also contends that James misused a consumer-protection law to sue Trump and improperly policed private business transactions that were satisfactory to those involved." Trump's massive civil fraud penalty for exaggerating financial statements is thrown out by appeals court


You can do better research next time, to avoid excluding vital info.

 

[A2SG]

I don't think Exxon Mobil nor Shkreli showed up to sit at any defendant's table, in this similar circumstance:

"Trump and his lawyers said his financial statements weren’t deceptive, since they came with disclaimers noting they weren’t audited. The defense also noted that bankers and insurers independently evaluated the numbers, and the loans were repaid... Trump’s lawyers argued that many of the case’s allegations were too old... The defense also contends that James misused a consumer-protection law to sue Trump and improperly policed private business transactions that were satisfactory to those involved." Trump's massive civil fraud penalty for exaggerating financial statements is thrown out by appeals court


You can do better research next time, to avoid excluding vital info.

That's completely irrelevant. You claimed New York had "never...experienced this type of crime until Trump was charged with it." I showed you the law, and two recent examples of prosecutions based on that law. Neither Trump's defense in that case nor that the judgment against Trump was tossed changes anything, Trump was still found guilty of fraud under New York Executive Law § 63(12), just as Shkreli was.

New York Executive Law § 63(12) is not some obscure law that has not been used in 105 years, as you asserted.

-- A2SG, nor has that law anything to do with the failed indictments of Letitia James....

 

[Factotum]

I believe i misstated what I meant. You @A2SG helped me figure that out --by your attempt to point out the law that Big Tish was empowered by, and not focus on the veracious actions by Trump that wrongly were called fraud by Big Tish. New York hates Trump so all of NY will agree with the lawfare result.
Perhaps it is what Trump did that has not been treated as a crime, in 100+ years.

 

[A2SG]

I believe i misstated what I meant. You @A2SG helped me figure that out --by your attempt to point out the law that Big Tish was empowered by, and not focus on the veracious actions by Trump that wrongly were called fraud by Big Tish.

What was wrong about it? Trump committed fraud, James proved that in a court of law by a preponderance of the evidence.

New York hates Trump so all of NY will agree with the lawfare result.

Um, in 2016, 2.8 million NY residents voted for Trump. In 2020, 3.25 million and in 2024, 3.5 million. Granted, more voted for his opponent in each election, but it can't be said that "all of NY" hates Trump. A lot voted for him.

Perhaps it is what Trump did that has not been treated as a crime, in 100+ years.

Sorry, but fraud has absolutely been treated as a crime for a lot longer than a hundred years.

-- A2SG, especially in NY.....

 

[Factotum]

What was wrong about it? Trump committed fraud, James proved that in a court of law by a preponderance of the evidence.

No, Big Tish proved only that there's an unethical judge who hated Trump as much as she did. And he helped her fleece due process via lawfare.

Um, in 2016, 2.8 million NY residents voted for Trump. In 2020, 3.25 million and in 2024, 3.5 million. Granted, more voted for his opponent in each election, but it can't be said that "all of NY" hates Trump. A lot voted for him.

I disagree. The 3.5M likely voted against the Liberal-Democrats disdain of the USA. They hated Trump that day, but they hated Socialism and living 'woke', waaay more!

Sorry, but fraud has absolutely been treated as a crime

Trump didn't commit fraud, so the banks kept lending to him.
He committed fraud only to lawfare experts (Big Tish, Engeron, etc) who prosecuted and convicted him.

 

[A2SG]

No, Big Tish proved only that there's an unethical judge who hated Trump as much as she did. And he helped her fleece due process via lawfare.

So you're now accusing Judge Engoron of judicial misconduct? What is the basis for this claim? What evidence do you have that the judge acted unethically?

Other than that you disagree with his ruling, of course.

I disagree. The 3.5M likely voted against the Liberal-Democrats disdain of the USA. They hated Trump that day, but they hated Socialism and living 'woke', waaay more!

Wow, your mind reading powers must be strong if you can discern the motives of millions of people all at once. So tell me, if they hated Trump, why did they vote for him? Why did Trump win the GOP primary over all the other GOP candidates?

Trump didn't commit fraud,

He was proven to have done so in a court of law, based on evidence.

so the banks kept lending to him.
He committed fraud only to lawfare experts (Big Tish, Engeron, etc) who prosecuted and convicted him.

The appeals court that threw out the judgment did not reverse the verdict, so they didn't find any judicial or prosecutorial misconduct or legal errors of any kind. Why do you suppose that is?

-- A2SG, are you able to read the minds of everyone on the appeals court too?

 

[Factotum]

So you're now accusing Judge Engoron of judicial misconduct?

I feel the judge is unethical, immoral, and should've recused himself. But he knew as long as it was in NY, when Trump is the defendant, then no one will have a problem with him fleecing Trump's right to due process.

Wow, your mind reading powers must be strong if you can discern the motives of millions of people all at once.

Yes. I learned the powers from studying Liberal-Democrats' continuum of discerning the motives of MAGA voters and anti-Democrat citizens.

And yes, I already explained why I feel 3.5M voted for a guy they've been duped into hating.

The appeals court ...did not reverse the verdict ... Why do you suppose that is?

Were they New York residents? Since Trump strolled down that escalator in 2015???

Are you able to read the minds of everyone on the appeals court too?

Too?
Please do not use Ad Hominem logical fallacies on me. Treat me to the same courtesy you extend to anti-Trump humans when they describe how they feel.

 

[BCP1928]

I feel the judge is unethical, immoral, and should've recused himself. But he knew as long as it was in NY, when Trump is the defendant, then no one will have a problem with him fleecing Trump's right to due process.



Yes. I learned the powers from studying Liberal-Democrats' continuum of discerning the motives of MAGA voters and anti-Democrat citizens.

And yes, I already explained why I feel 3.5M voted for a guy they've been duped into hating.



Were they New York residents? Since Trump strolled down that escalator in 2015???


Too?
Please do not use Ad Hominem logical fallacies on me. Treat me to the same courtesy you extend to anti-Trump humans when they describe how they feel.

Yes, that would be better than treating you with the same "courtesy" you extend to anti-Trump humans.

 

[A2SG]

I feel the judge is unethical, immoral, and should've recused himself.

And you base that feeling on what, exactly? Anything factual that you can demonstrate?

But he knew as long as it was in NY, when Trump is the defendant, then no one will have a problem with him fleecing Trump's right to due process.

Except that Trump had an entire legal team fighting to protect his right to a fair trial. And an entire appeals process in case he disagreed with the verdict.

The appeals court upheld the verdict, by the way. They found no judicial errors or malfeasance.

Yes. I learned the powers from studying Liberal-Democrats' continuum of discerning the motives of MAGA voters and anti-Democrat citizens.

With quite a few large doses of biased assumptions, it would seem

And yes, I already explained why I feel 3.5M voted for a guy they've been duped into hating.

Your biased feelings again. How reliable are they, I wonder.

Were they New York residents? Since Trump strolled down that escalator in 2015???

Since all members of the NY Court of Appeals work in NY, I presume they live there. Certainly they have all passed the NY bar and have been practicing law in NY. As for how long they've been residents of NY, I can't say.

Too?

Yup. You've already claimed to know why millions of NY residents voted the way they did, I just wonder how far that ability extends.

Please do not use Ad Hominem logical fallacies on me. Treat me to the same courtesy you extend to anti-Trump humans when they describe how they feel.

No ad homs here, I'm addressing the arguments you're making, and what, if anything, those arguments are based on.

-- A2SG, feel free to detail that at any time....