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Very good topic.

Im just learning to live life to the fullest. #1: because I have Jesus Christ and eternal hope...#2: because God only requires us to live one day at a time...and #3 because yesterday is gone and tomorrow is not promise.
There are enough problems to deal with day after day...so we should take every moment we have and make it last in happiness.
 
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Welcome Becka!
Always know that God will place special people in your life that u will trust, love, and become close to. Be encouraged and keep your head up. True Friends can be hard to come by, but not impossible.
God Bless!
Thanx I have found friends here on CF and am very happy with them.
I'll not be able to find them in the real world cuz I'm different
But thats ok
I luv kids n they luv me, they don't see different :)
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I try to live life to the fullest everyday and honour Jesus with each step I take. I try to make the most of every situation and I tend to pray over every little detail of my life because I know that I can't do it by my own strength.

Today is not such a good day so I'm leaning on Jesus to carry me through unto tomorrow because I can't walk another inch. I'm neck deep in temper tantrums, outright disobidence and time-outs and I just want to hide. Jesus, please carry me and show me what to do and what to say so I can be the mother You want me to be and that my children need.

I love to sing and some of my favorities are Offering by Third Day and Mighty to Save by Hillsong. I have them on my MP3 player and I blast them when I need to pour out my heart and soul to my Lord and Saviour. Actually, I need to do that right now. :hug:

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Thanx I have found friends here on CF and am very happy with them.
I'll not be able to find them in the real world cuz I'm different
But thats ok
I luv kids n they luv me, they don't see different :)
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You know Becka, I have a hard time finding friends in the real world too because, well, I'm different.

It's sad that we live in a world filled with so much judgement. That's why I like places like CF because we can truly connect with people that we might never get the chance to meet.

We get to "see" people for who they are on the inside without all of the walls we normally build up around us.

CF is no less real then the lives we're living. :hug:

~Christina
 
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Ladies, I came across this today and wanted to share it with you because it tied in with today's topic...

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Ladies, I came across this today and wanted to share it with you because it tied in with today's topic...

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Wow Christina...
That is sooo beautiful to know. Our past doesnt matter because God's name isnt "I was". Our future doesnt matter because God's name isnt " I will be". But only what is now matters because God's name is I AM. We dont have to worry about yesterday's fears or tomorrow's sorrow. This is very encouraging. Thanks for sharing this with all of us.
 
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Thank u sooo much for the encouraging words. They mean a lot to me. I know laying down all of my burdens in my past and present will free me from guilt, shame, and hurt. If God can forgive and remember my sins no more, then I can do the same for myself. It will help me to move on.
Thanks Sandy

There is a wonderful bible study for this by Beth Moore... it's called "Breaking Free"... you are in bondage and locked chains... but doing this study can break you free.
 
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Loving Discipline


He who spares the rod hates his son, but he
who loves him is careful to discipline him.
Proverbs 13:24

Children don't seem to understand the truth of the sentence, "This hurts me more than it does you." In fact, this idea has become a gag for comedians to use. But in reality it's true, isn't it? It's no fun for parents to discipline their children. Parents don't look forward to discipline with a "Yahoo, I get to ground the kid!" attitude.

But discipline is necessary. It sets guidelines for children so they know where the boundraries are. Children like to know where the lines are for what is acceptable and what isn't. Of course, discipline should be firm, consistent, and given in love. That's how God disciplines His children. Ther couldn't be a better example to follow!


How do you feel about discipline?? What kind of discipline do you use?? What has happened as a result of not disciplining when needed... or what happened as a result after you did??
 
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Tuesday, January, 30th, 2007:
From Our Daily Bread in today's devotional:

On a family visit to Disneyland, I pondered the sign over the entrance arch that read, “Welcome to the happiest place on earth.” The rest of the day I looked at the faces of the people and was impressed by the small number who were actually smiling during their visit to “the happiest place on earth.” I roamed the park with divided attention—trying to make sure my kids had a good time and wondering why so few adults seemed to be enjoying themselves.
As I think of that day, I am reminded of a line from an old song that says, “Life goes on, long after the thrill of living is gone.” So it seems.
To live life to the fullest is qualitatively different than merely existing. In fact, Jesus said that part of His mission was to enable us to live life to the fullest: “I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly” (John 10:10). He came so that we could experience life to the full—not according to the standards of a fallen world, but life as it was intended to be. It is life according to the designs and desires of the Creator of life.
By coming to provide forgiveness for rebellious, broken people, Jesus has made it possible for us to live a life of joy and hope in a world of despair. — Bill Crowder

Jesus came to bring us life—
Abundant living, full and free;
Trusting Him to save and keep us
Gives us joy the world can see. —Sper

To know God puts a song in your heart and a smile on your face.

How about In Deep'ers? Are you living life to the fullest? Are you living life more abundantly and honoring Jesus as we Christians should? Or are you weighed down and troubled by the things of this world, of which we do not belong.

Are you trusting Him to save and keep you? Are you experiencing joy unspeakable and peace beyond all understanding?

Are you singing God's song today?


WATW... this is such a wonderful devotional. In experience, when I do hand things over to the Lord, I truely am blessed with peace and with security, yet for some reason, sometimes it's the last thing I do. I look at what Paul said, "For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. " Though I want to give to God all my troubles, though I want to give to him my anxiety, my depression, more often than not I find myself trying to 'fix' my own problems, sometimes 'trying things my way' first. Which leads not to the happiness nor the peace that only God can give to me.
Yet I know that God is training me. He is gradually teaching me, that first look to Him, not to myself nor others. For the same reasons, children make the same mistakes over and over, it is a learning process, which one day, just clicks inside their minds, and sticks. I long for that day, when I just do, automatically, without thinking what God wants me to do. Thankfully, He is patient :D
 
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NO, NOT LIKE I SHOULD BE :sigh:

SO IT'S TIME TO GET SINGING! WHAT IS A SONG YOU GUYS START TO SING WHEN YOU ARE DOWN AND WANT TO WORSHIP THE LORD ALMIGHTY? I SEEM TO GO FOR THE EASY/SIMPLE ONES LIKE: "CREATE IN ME A CLEAN HEART," AND "I LOVE YOU LORD."

One of the songs that I sing, is Casting Crowns, " Praise you in this storm" It's amazing, the truth behind those words.
 
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Children need to understand who the leader is..We all have leaders..We must all respect authority..It extends to teachers, ministers, bosses, policemen, judges and God Himself..If you do not yield to parental leadership at home..You will not yield to it as an adult.
Parents should lead in their own homes..When mothers and fathers fail to take charge in moments of challenge, they create for themselves and their families a potential lifetime of heartache..We must discipline..Pray and ask God what is the best method to use in situations you are faced with..Let Him be your Guide and make you a guide to lead your children..We also must teach our children to pray this will prepare them for life and equip them to face everything life has to offer....
 
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Loving Discipline


He who spares the rod hates his son, but he
who loves him is careful to discipline him.
Proverbs 13:24

Children don't seem to understand the truth of the sentence, "This hurts me more than it does you." In fact, this idea has become a gag for comedians to use. But in reality it's true, isn't it? It's no fun for parents to discipline their children. Parents don't look forward to discipline with a "Yahoo, I get to ground the kid!" attitude.

But discipline is necessary. It sets guidelines for children so they know where the boundraries are. Children like to know where the lines are for what is acceptable and what isn't. Of course, discipline should be firm, consistent, and given in love. That's how God disciplines His children. Ther couldn't be a better example to follow!


How do you feel about discipline?? What kind of discipline do you use?? What has happened as a result of not disciplining when needed... or what happened as a result after you did??

WoW! Gina, this is something, that I've actually been doing a study about, and listening about.
I am a push over unfortunately when it comes to my kids. They mean the world to me, and I truely hate to punish them.
I came from an abusive home, my father, went way overboard, and as a result, we were very fearful. What you do to your children continues with them for the rest of their lives. As a result, all of us kids are messed up. So when I had my first child, I knew that I would never spank. I would never smack, or beat, or harm my child. Yet in fact, by doing that, I did harm him. There is a line which once crosses where punishment becomes abuse, and I feared that line so much that I didn't even try it. As a result, Corban definately became a 'spoiled child'.
When I became a christian though, and i began to heal emotionally, spiritually, and physically, God showed me that the rod, is not a tool of hate, but actually love. A child that is not punished is not loved. Though I loved Corban with my whole heart, I wasn't showing it, because, I was allowing him to grow into a man that didn't have consquences, that was disrespectful, and I was the one responsible for this. I was letting him down, by not providing him with discipline.
My children now, get spanked. I know that alot of people see that as a horrible crime, but I am not ashamed to state it. I have never beat my children, I have never left a mark on their bodies, because when I do spank, I do it with full knowledge and with God's peace and strength and love. I never hit my children out of anger, and I always talk to them before and after. They know their mommy and daddy loves them.
I regret my past choices. I myself am dealing with the consquence of not punishing my child as I should have. I deal with the consquence of not being consistant too... I truely am a pushover:doh:. And it truely is the children that suffer because of my nonconsistancy and the lack of punishment when deserved.
When I am consistant, and I find that they are actually better behaved. I know that many think that if you spank your child, that you are breaking their spirit, that you are harming their confindence, but I will tell you, that is just wrong. Yes, if you go to far, the damage is uncomprehendable, but, when done right, done in love, your children actually do benifit, I truely see that in my own.
"Folly is bound up in the heart of a child,
but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him."
 
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Loving Discipline


He who spares the rod hates his son, but he
who loves him is careful to discipline him.
Proverbs 13:24


Children don't seem to understand the truth of the sentence, "This hurts me more than it does you." In fact, this idea has become a gag for comedians to use. But in reality it's true, isn't it? It's no fun for parents to discipline their children. Parents don't look forward to discipline with a "Yahoo, I get to ground the kid!" attitude.

But discipline is necessary. It sets guidelines for children so they know where the boundraries are. Children like to know where the lines are for what is acceptable and what isn't. Of course, discipline should be firm, consistent, and given in love. That's how God disciplines His children. Ther couldn't be a better example to follow!



How do you feel about discipline?? What kind of discipline do you use?? What has happened as a result of not disciplining when needed... or what happened as a result after you did??

certainly discuss my forms of discipline (or lack there of truthfully) and also discuss what I see where I work in the children I am blessed to be with everyday.

I was a very liberal parent in my discipline style. And I can tell you honestly; it did NOT work for me. Or anyone else for that matter. When you DON'T use the rod and you DON'T put many lines down and show your children that there is a direct consequence to EVERY choice that they make - YOU as a parent are actually hurting them in ways too numerous to mention. You really are.

I saw this not only in my own children - who just don't get sometimes that what they are experiencing most of the time is a direct correlation to a choice that they made.

My youngest son shared some words of wisdom with me one day - regarding discipline - when he was about 16 and we were in another one of our heated debates and struggling with authority issues. Right smack in the middle of the argument and me trying to "reason" (hahaha) with a him (this child I never really disciplined-kind of an oxymoron I know) - he looked me square in the eye and said, "I'm like I am because you never beat me."

Now, don't get me wrong - I don't think he meant literally BEAT him as in an abusive sense. No, he meants something a bit deeper and more meaningful. He was telling me - loud and clear, my lack of parenting (more specifically showing him the line WITH discipline) was why we were in that argument to begin with. And he was so right.

I was speechless for several seconds and then ended the conversation by saying to him, "well let it not be an excuse to you any more Daniel. You know this. I admit I made alot of mistakes and didn't do right by you. So do better for yourself, please."

Now, working at a school, as you can imagine-I see a fairly wide variety of discipline styles in parents, through there children when they are in my computer lab. And I can tell you what I see is not good, for the majority anyway. I see ALOT of a lack of discipline. I end up spending part of my day dealing with arugmentative children that were never told, it's not only not polite to argue with an adult/authority figure. That when you go to school there are rules to follow and you must follow them or deal with the consequences.

We are also sadly living in a time when, IF a child IS given a consequence for not following rules, staff members get in trouble not the child who caused the problem to begin with. It's a sad state of affairs it really is. And I don't know what the answer is. I have my opinions and ideas about this and could go on and on but won't to too far in depth for time sake.

There are several reasons I believe all that I see is happening. Between the liberal parenting styles and not showing our children the line; the nutjob psychologists who blasted their "spanking is abuse" message across the airwaves some years ago; and the fact that we have pretty much escorted God and His authority (let alone our authority as adults) right out the door (in our homes, in schools, and slowly in our gov't too) -- is it any wonder really?

Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now. Sorry to be so lengthy. But this is definitely something close to my heart and troublesome to me. As you can probably tell ;)
 
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Hello

I am glad this thread has continued Gina. Thank you for the kindness you have shown in the past. :hug:


Thank you Jen...for the invite. My Young Wise Woman of God...a blessing and encouragment in my Walk.

I must take the steps to go 'deeper'. I ask that you would pray that I would allow God to bring me to Himself in the way He intends.

Thank you
Wendy
 
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My children are grown as well..I made mistakes with parenting...Who hasn't?? Mistakes we make and our children make as we learn and grow will not hinder ours prayers being answered...I thank God for the blessings He has given me and for His grace and mercy and love.
 
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How do you feel about discipline?? What kind of discipline do you use?? What has happened as a result of not disciplining when needed... or what happened as a result after you did??

Let me start out by saying that I do not have children yet - but hope to soon. In the past year, as I have planned to start a family, I have started paying a lot more attention to others with children: how they treat their children, discipline, etc. I absolutely believe that discipline is necessary - as long as it is given out of love and not anger. One big thing that I have noticed, is that a child needs to know why they are being disciplined. And once you tell them something, you must stick with it. I was watching my nephew - he was about 3 or 4 and he was having a bad day. He was on a rampage! He got mad and took his colors and dumped them on the floor. I told him he needed to pick them up. He refused and started to run off. So I picked him up and brought him back and told him to pick them up. When he started to run off again, I picked him up again, sat on the floor with him on my lap, and told him that he could not go anywhere until he picked them up. We sat there for about 30 minutes. He cried a little bit and it broke my heart, but I knew I couldn't give in. All of a sudden, he started picking them up and putting them back in the box. I had the same experience with my niece at dinner when she didn't want to eat her food. I had her sit at the table until she ate what I asked. I've also seen the way my SIL disciplines - or doesn't discipline. She lets her kids get by with a lot. The biggest problem I see is that she will tell them to do or not do something, they ignore her, and she doesn't say anything else about it. That makes it harder for me to discipline when I watch them.

I think patience is the best tool when disciplining chilren. You can't get angry and yell at them - you have to get down to their level and explain things to them and have patience with them. I realize that parenting is not always easy, but I can't wait for the opportunity.
 
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Loving Discipline


He who spares the rod hates his son, but he
who loves him is careful to discipline him.
Proverbs 13:24


Children don't seem to understand the truth of the sentence, "This hurts me more than it does you." In fact, this idea has become a gag for comedians to use. But in reality it's true, isn't it? It's no fun for parents to discipline their children. Parents don't look forward to discipline with a "Yahoo, I get to ground the kid!" attitude.

But discipline is necessary. It sets guidelines for children so they know where the boundraries are. Children like to know where the lines are for what is acceptable and what isn't. Of course, discipline should be firm, consistent, and given in love. That's how God disciplines His children. Ther couldn't be a better example to follow!



How do you feel about discipline?? What kind of discipline do you use?? What has happened as a result of not disciplining when needed... or what happened as a result after you did??

Being a stay at home mom means you are at home with your children 24/7. I have no break, I have no one to help me and I'm truly on my own: physically. I know God is with me but physically I am the only person there. I have a lot of issues with discipline because like Burn97 I too was abused. My parents crossed that line from spanking to beating....and I am scarred because of it. I do spank my kids but when I do it hurts ME so much that I have to go into the bathroom and cry. I spank out of love and not out of anger but to hear my son cry because I spanked him leaves a pain within me that I can't explain. I know I need to but it hurts so much. I know that I'm not my parents and I will never beat or abuse my children but sometimes it's hard to enforce that type of discipline without retreating back to the little girl I once was and how much it hurt me emotionally when my parents beat me. I have to constantly remind myself that my children's perception of spanking won't be the one I had of beating. It's much much different. I do use time-outs quite a bit because sometimes I need to be away from them , especially if I'm angry. I need space when I feel that way in order to compose myself and make sure when I do discipline I'm in control. You see, abused people are more likely to abuse and I have to be in control at all times so I don't become one of those people who repeats the cycle. I do tend to yell. I admit that. I hate that. It's too easy to retreat to that instead of talking calmly b/c when you've been with whiny children all day long it gets to you, it really does. Yesterday we had a bad day but I stayed consistent; it wasn't fun. But motherhood isn't always going to be, is it? Today is a better day. No yelling, no time-outs required, no spanks. I wish everyday would be like today but I know it can't be. I just have to lean on my Savior and He will guide my steps. I just have to let Him.

Love you girls!
~Christina :hug:
 
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