Col 2 does not condemn the Sabbath or Scripture

[tatteredsoul]

I don't believe Paul contradicted God while you do because you refuse to accept the NC and cling to the OC, well parts of both anyway.

bugkiller

That isn't what I asked.

 

[tatteredsoul]

And, I don't believe Paul contradicted Paul either; I think I already said that in this thread.

 

[bugkiller]

That isn't what I asked.

Perhaps you should read your opening question again. My response is directly related to that question.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

And, I don't believe Paul contradicted Paul either; I think I already said that in this thread.

Really?

bugkiller

 

[Bob S]

I agree.

But if it came down to something Paul said vs something God said, Paul loses miserably - that goes for all humans.

So if Paul actually was talking about us not having to follow commandments, but God never said so, then Paul loses, and is deemed an antichrist. I understand inspiration, but if you contradict God's commandments and word, your inspiration isn't from Him.

WOW!, well at least you are honest. We certainly cannot use the writings of Paul to persuade you to be part of the New Covenant. One problem, Jesus listeners were Jews under the present law that Jesus was abiding. Jesus fulfilled the laws of the old covenant and ushered in the new covenant at His death on the Cross. It happens to be a better covenant with better laws that the old one. So, when Paul wrote that the 10 commandments were temporary laws he certainly was not contradicting Jesus. He was confirming the fact that indeed we are not under the direction of the 10 commandments, we are under the gift Jesus left us before He left for Heaven. That gift is the Holy Spirit and it has taken the place of the 10 commandments as the guide of all mankind. Please read 2Cor3:7-11. John confirms Paul's writings in 1Jn3:19-24 if you are interested in knowing the real truth.

 

[BobRyan]

Already responded to this spam post in another thread.

bugkiller

I have responded to that spam -- numerous times already

 

[BobRyan]

WOW!, well at least you are honest. We certainly cannot use the writings of Paul to persuade you to be part of the New Covenant. .

Are you back to accepting the New Covenant made with "the house of Israel and the house of Judah" where the "LAW of God is written on the heart and mind" -- Jer 31:31-33, Hebrews 8:6-10. I welcome the change of heart.

 

[BobRyan]

BobRyan said: ↑
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


An example of NOT condemning eating OR drinking or remembering God's Ten-Commandment creation-Sabbath day to keep it holy. Rather Col 2 condemns the "commandments of men" - (as is so carefully avoided in the quotes we often see from Col 2)


Col 2 is about making up a rule and judging others of being guilty of sin because they differ with you, even if that invented rule is related to a Bible command.

Who but the pro law people are doing this very thing? Has anyone condemned you for trying to keep or as you will claim keeping the Sabbath?

You can't be serious.

Perhaps a short "summary" to refresh short term memory.
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You don't obey the Sabbath, .

Do you say that as the "Accuser of the brethren" in Rev 12 - or do you have some "other source"??

Perhaps most, at least some, of us give lip service to that idea. However, is there a particular reason you don't keep all of God's commandments?

bbbbbbb said: ↑
It seems to me that you and your SDA brethren are very busy transgressing the Law day in and day out, unless you have utterly deceived yourselves into believing that the LAW consists of only ten select commandments. Even then, you transgress the fourth commandment egregiously.

What a pack of accusations "in place of" Bible study.

Here is some Bible study.

Rev 12
10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying,
“Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death. 12 For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.”

13 And when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. 14 But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she could fly into the wilderness to her place, where she *was nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15 And the serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood. 16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and drank up the river which the dragon poured out of his mouth. 17 So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest (remnant) of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.

disciple1 said: ↑
You don't obey the Sabbath.

And then of course we have "you".

bugkiller said: ↑
You don't fool us for a split NYC second. You're not in compliance with the law. If you keep any part of it you're obligated to all of it per Gal 5:3.

The rebellious child will say to its parents "first you must be perfect then you may tell me to Honor my Father and Mother as God instructed in the Bible" -- but of course -- that is "old news"

More serious than a heart attack.
bugkiller

hint: you were just proven wrong. Spare yourself that heart attack.