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I take it you didn’t read That Wikipedia article. View attachment 230847
No. But I'll bet you got everything you know from evolutionism sources. Did I win the bet?
From your link - "Patients with this deformity lack motor function at the affected vertebral level and sensory functions below the affected level." Doesn't sound vestigial at all to me. The key words that gave it away were "deformity", lacking "motor function", and "sensory functions". Just in case you don't understand the term vestigial, I quote it below:
"Vestigial (of an organ or part of the body) degenerate, rudimentary, or atrophied, having become functionless in the course of evolution."
Oops. Darwin's disciples get it wrong again. It hardly seems fair to call them scientists.
The problem lies with the sneering way the term is generally used, as in the phrase, "Evolutionists believe..." where you can pretty much bet the ranch that what follows will be a fib.
-_- pretty sure that the bible explicitly states that the first human was made from dust, and that the second was made from the rib of the first human.
Of course creationists take the brunt of the criticisms- mainly because they’re usually incompetently wrong . Not mistaken like Gingerich was due to lack of evidence . he said that whales might be descended from mesonychids and they’re actually only close cousins . The fossils clearing that up lineage weren’t available and Gingerich made a reasonable guess.
I know you want to believe that, but Gingerich had no right to "imagine" whale body parts that ended up as mock-ups in museums fooling our children.
The field of evolution is loaded with fraud and deception; and has been from the beginning.
Dan
[QUOTE="Bible Research Tools, post: 72793972, member: 409605" I don't recall claiming anyone is or is not a Christian. But I am pretty certain creation scientists take the brunt of attacks on their faith by evolutionists on this board, and not vice versa.
Creationist pseudoscience practioners ( I’m not calling them scientists) deserved the so called attacks as they are dead wrong to lie the way they do
"I [Phillip E. Johnson] had the honor to be the subject of a program at the American Association for the Advancement of Science annual meeting in Boston in February of 1993. Michael Ruse gave a lecture on me which was intended to be, from its abstract, an exercise in what we might call Johnson bashing.
Well deserved too as Johnson is a lawyer and has demonstrated repeatedly that he doesn’t understand science
Where is the conspiracy? It is a fact that evolutionists have a cronyistic relationship with government that prevents other theories from being recognized or funded. Are you denying that?
Yes!
Ignorance is bliss, I have heard. Only accurate thing you’ve ever stated.
Dr. Wise presents the argument that fossilization occurs ONLY in anaerobic environments; so I am not sure what your point is. Baloney on the "eolian" fossils.
aeolian deposits are formed by wind like sand dunes. baloney on your pseudoscience based ignorance
Either that or they lived in higher altitudes than, say, the dinos, and were covered by subsequent flood sediments.
yep, pines run faster than ferns
That actually begins at the 29:09 mark. Stasis in the fossil record is obvious. Kurt Wise was a student of the late Dr. Stephen Jay Gould, Harvard, who coined the term; so I feel certain Dr. Wise understands it better than most.
Wise deliberately ignores evidence and real scientists don’t. Punk eek is due to rapid speciation followed by relative stasis . If you want to see this in real life- Timema cristinae evolving to eat another plant species . These timemids are background mimics.
How do you explain coal seams with flat tops and bottoms? How do you explain the presence of short mud layers (benches) between the seams?
Are you serious!?!?! Unbelievable!!!!!
For the record, Dr. Steven Austin received his PhD from Penn State by defending his dissertation on coal formation based on a theory similar to the floating forest theory.
Austin is either an incompetent or a liar. Take your pick.
Carbon 14 dating of coal, alone, confirms the "300 million of years ago" date by evolutionist is silly. Additionally, the fact that coal seams are typically flat rules out any notion of a swamp origin.
C14 dating is only good for 50,000 years . I find it odd that you don’t know that . No layer over 50,000 years is able to be dated by C14. You’d rather keep repeating pseudoscience nonsense, though, wouldn’t you?
What about all of the Christians and other theists who have no problem accepting evolution while remaining loyal to their faith and their religions?You mean the part about creationists believing evolutionism is a secular religion?
I don't agree. I believe evolutionism is a faith-based religion, with naturalism as god.
Dan
-_- it's really not a religion. I would be very interested if evolution was disproven, not devastated or something. From my perspective, theories only matter as much as they accurately represent reality, so disproving the incorrect ones is just the equivalent of scientific weeding.You mean the part about creationists believing evolutionism is a secular religion?
I don't agree. I believe evolutionism is a faith-based religion, with naturalism as god.
Dan
Ah, another great reliable creationist source. He was caught lying - and I do mean lying - about Tiktaalik fossils. And expressing some pretty serious ignorance of anatomy - which is odd since he teaches anatomy.
So I must have missed it - did ANY creationists actually deal with the facts presented in the OP?
That flat out sounds exactly like a conspiracy.
You do realize that the theory of biological evolution isn't strictly an American thing? You do know there are other countries in the world, yes?
So are you really suggesting a global conspiracy involving various governments from around the world for the past 150+ years?
It's either a deliberate conspiracy or gross incompetence. Those are the only real options creationists have to explain why the world's biologists accept evolution without giving credence to the other, more obvious reason.
You're not going to start whining about the "Lost Cause" are you?What does that have to do with the U.S. judiciary usurping power from the states and the people?
Dan
I'd like to know what other theories he has in mind. Biblical creationism has been off the table for 200 years.
What does that have to do with the U.S. judiciary usurping power from the states and the people?
Dan
War against Moses? I'll admit I have not heard rejection of a shallow and theologically inadequate interpretation of Genesis described quite that way before.You don't get out much. The war against Moses has been continuous for about 150 years.
Dan
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