Clearing up misconceptions about evolution

[CaliforniaSun]

I just had a phone call with god. It said it wasn't happy with what you were saying about it and that you were dead wrong. You might want to stop before it smites you.

I wonder if that would make him smitten?

 

[Non sequitur]

lulz

 

[Split Rock]

My interest is not in evolution. I am interested in the Haggadah and the Talmud, Tanuak, and the Brit Ha' Dashai

One wonders then what you are doing posting in the Creation & Evolution sub-forum.

Why is an atheist on a Christian Forum ?

Because they were invited. Note that this is the part of the forum specifically open to non-believers.

I was discussing ELOHIM CREATOR of the Universe, you were linking to your teachers of evolution which is your religion.

You presume a lot, Newbie. Especially considering you don't even understand the purpose of this forum.

Like all evolutionists you leave out half of what is said. If you can not dazzle with brilliance, baffle with bull crap.

It didn't take long for you to start in with the insults, did it Newbie?

I vote Troll on this guy.

 

[Memukan]

One wonders then what you are doing posting in the Creation & Evolution sub-forum.


Because they were invited. Note that this is the part of the forum specifically open to non-believers.


You presume a lot, Newbie. Especially considering you don't even understand the purpose of this forum.


It didn't take long for you to start in with the insults, did it Newbie?

I vote Troll on this guy.

Insults, is that not what your doing.

 

[CaliforniaSun]

Insults, is that not what your doing.

No. SR is one of the most patient non-theists on CF. I think he has tolerated your behavior and answered your questions quite respectfully. If you want to continue coming off as a jerk, I guess you'll get what you give.

 

[pgp_protector]

No. SR is one of the most patient non-theists on CF. I think he has tolerated your behavior and answered your questions quite respectfully. If you want to continue coming off as a jerk, I guess you'll get what you give.

Their Rep power dropped to 0, I don't think they're able to respond right now.

 

[Non sequitur]

Their Rep power dropped to 0, I don't think they're able to respond right now.

How'd that happen?

(yay)

 

[NailsII]

YAHWEH is the only Contender, HE is ELELYON, GOD, GOD Most High. That means when you stack up all those gods on top of one another YAHWEH will be at the top.

So why does he need more than one name?
As far as I am aware, the earliest known usages of El as a god (or Elohim) he is head of the Caananite gods - yes, there was more than one, they were his children. He had a wife, as did Yahweh.

Well "Ptah and "Atum" are actually different aspects of the one. Together with "Sokar" they were the names for the triad or the trinity in Heliopolis, the site of a sect in Egyptian religion. " In Heliopolis, this triad would be known as Ptah-Sokar-Atum, but hailed as Osiris." They correpond with the names "Father, "Son" "Holy Spirit" or "Brama, Vishnu and Shiva" (" Hindus view cosmic activity of the Supreme Being as comprised of three tasks: creation, preservation, and dissolution and recreation. Hindus associate these three cosmic tasks with the three deities, Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. Lord Brahma brings forth the creation and represents the creative principle of the Supreme Being. Lord Vishnu maintains the universe and represents the eternal principle of preservation. Lord Shiva represents the principle of dissolution and recreation. These three deities together form the Hindu Trinity.") in other cultures.

Unkulunku and Mbombo are from African satellite religions and can be traced back to a major religion in Africa (specifically Egypt). So there is no real need to chase these down and the Egyptian mecca will suffice.

"Allah" is actually Arabic for "God" (" The word "Allah" is the perfect description of the "One God" of monotheism for Jews, Christians and Muslims!"Allah" is the same word used by Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs in their Bible, centuries before Islam came.").

"Nanabozho" is the name in the Native American culture for the Spirit or the source of life. It can be known under various names and characteristics and can have certain physical representations based on what manifested trait you wish to emphasize. It corresponds with the Father, Brahma, etc. (" Namtbozho is apparently the impersonation of life, the active quickening power of life of life manifested and ci"1odied in the myriad forms of sentient and physical nature. lie is therefore reputed to possess not only the power to live, but also the correlative power of renewing his own life and of quickening and therefore of creating life in others.").

"El" is simply another name for the Supreme One.

Very interesting, thanks for your info.
I was aware of the Hindu trinity, but most of that is new to me.
Allah is a 'newer' word than Elohim though, the Hebrew bible doesn't use the word Allah as far as I am aware. Is it possible that Allah is just a derivitaive of the word Elohim? Eloah is also used in the book of Job, does this suggest different gods or a word that has changed over time?
I really don't know, I'm not a historian or biblical scholar.
Got any links to references to your conclusions?

Like all evolutionists you leave out half of what is said. If you can not dazzle with brilliance, baffle with bull crap.

What exactly is an evolutionist?

 

[Split Rock]

No. SR is one of the most patient non-theists on CF. I think he has tolerated your behavior and answered your questions quite respectfully. If you want to continue coming off as a jerk, I guess you'll get what you give.

Thank you. I try, but some people here really have no interest in any discussion.

 

[RickG]

Thank you. I try, but some people here really have no interest in any discussion.

 

[SkyWriting]

So given
Psalm 116:11 And in my dismay I said, "All men are liars."
and your gender

Are you lying?

I am lying.

 

[SkyWriting]

The bible was not written by God-it was written by men.

It claims to be "God Breathed". There are those who just accept that and some who think the evidence supports the claim. I'm in the latter group.

 

[CabVet]

It claims to be "God Breathed". There are those who just accept that and some who think the evidence supports the claim. I'm in the latter group.

And what evidence is this that you allude to?

 

[pgp_protector]

It claims to be "God Breathed". There are those who just accept that and some who think the evidence supports the claim. I'm in the latter group.

I am lying.

right

 

[Hortysir]

Evolution is Not a Religion.

It is a strictly held belief structure which contributes heavily to how one lives, no?

 

[NailsII]

It is a strictly held belief structure which contributes heavily to how one lives, no?

You'll have to enlighten me on this one, I don't know how evolutionary theory is supposed to effect how I live my life.
Is there a docterine in there tht I missed?
A commandment?
Is there something not supported by evidence that I need I need to take on faith, in spite of evidence?

Thought not.

Just checking though - it is always good to check.

 

[USincognito]

It is a strictly held belief structure which contributes heavily to how one lives, no?

No. It is a scientific theory in the area of Biology.

But I'd love to see you explain why you think what you do with regards to it though.

 

[SkyWriting]

right

Really.
I am lying right now.
Think it through.
I am lying.

 

[SkyWriting]

And what evidence is this that you allude to?

You may "Look Inside" or I could list some details from my copies.

- The Uniqueness of the Bible
- The Reliability of the Bible
Confirmation of the Historical Text
Confirmation by Archaeology
- Jesus - Man of History
- Jesus - God's Son
more.....

Amazon.com: Evidence That Demands a Verdict, Volume 1: Historical Evidences for the Christian Faith : Books

Evidence That Demands a Verdict, Volume 2 : Books

More-Evidence-That-Demands-Verdict

The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict Fully Updated To Answer The Questions Challenging Christians Today

 

[SkyWriting]

No. It is a scientific theory in the area of Biology. But I'd love to see you explain why you think what you do with regards to it though.

There are some differences.
I'll delete out the differences from this definition of religion, and just leave the similarities below. You could call this "Quote Mining" but it serves to show the connection.


Dictionary.com

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, ...
2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons ...
3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices...

get religion, Informal .
a.
to acquire a deep conviction of the validity of... beliefs and practices.



Webster

2
: a personal set or institutionalized system of ...attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3
archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4
: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
— re·li·gion·less adjective