Circumcision

[Meowzltov]

The foreskin evolved for no reason guyz.. it's just useless..

Oh wait.. evolution never happened at all. It was intelligently designed for no reason, lol.

I am not a creationist.

 

[MehGuy]

I am not a creationist.

Never said you were, but there's bound to be a few wandering around here. Lol.

 

[TerranceL]

http://www.examiner.com/article/new...te-higher-than-suffocation-and-auto-accidents

A new study published last week in Thymos: Journal of Boyhood Studies estimates that more than 100 baby boys die from circumcision complications each year, including from anesthesia reaction, stroke, hemorrhage, and infection. Because infant circumcision is elective, all of these deaths are avoidable.

To put this in perspective, about 44 neonatal boys die each year from suffocation, and 8 from auto accidents. About 115 neonatal boys die annually from SIDS, nearly the same as from circumcision.

117 little boys dead because their parents chose to butcher their body.

 

[TerranceL]

Skin? I chew off skin around my fingernails all the time, even causing it to bleed. It's not mutilation.

Yes, skin. That stuff that covers your muscles.

That stuff that is more sensitive in some parts than others.

Your comparison is off, change it to someone chewing the skin off of someones genitals and you might be close.

 

[TerranceL]

I think that seeing an actual circumcision would dispel any silly ideas that its butchering.

So what word would you use to describe an elective surgery that removes a piece of perfectly healthy organ?

 

[TerranceL]

Women don't need to enjoy sex in order to procreate.

Did you Imam tell you this?

 

[TerranceL]

It sure seems to do the job.

As would female genitals that had been circumcised but.. that's different for purely imaginary reasons.

 

[Meowzltov]

So what word would you use to describe an elective surgery that removes a piece of perfectly healthy organ?

cosmetic surgery.

 

[Meowzltov]

As would female genitals that had been circumcised but.. that's different for purely imaginary reasons.

Wrong. A [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] is designed solely to give sensation. It is for sexual PLEASURE. It's removal interferes with a woman's normal ability to enjoy sex. That is NOT true for men. Men who are circumcised enjoy sex just fine -- the fact that they are able to have sex is evidence of their enjoyent.

 

[Meowzltov]

Did you Imam tell you this?

Don't be foolish. A woman can be raped, and have an absolutely terrifying and painful ordeal, and still get pregnant and give birth.

 

[Reeniee]

There is no comparison between male circumcision and female genital mutilation. apples and oranges.

Why? Both are cutting off a bit of the babies genitals for non medical reasons without that persons consent.

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[Reeniee]

Don't be foolish. A woman can be raped, and have an absolutely terrifying and painful ordeal, and still get pregnant and give birth.

Can't a man also get raped by a woman, have a terrifying and painful ordeal, and still get the woman pregnant? I'm not sure what this has to do with it.

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[Dave-W]

The bible tells us we should circumcise our children. It's better for their hygiene and health, not only that it looks better. :0

It does? Where? (to a gentile)

Circ is a covenantal sign of the Jews - the Abrahamic and Mosaic covenants specifically.

 

[Dave-W]

Can't a man also get raped by a woman, have a terrifying and painful ordeal, and still get the woman pregnant? I'm not sure what this has to do with it.

"Rape" has a legal definition - the rapist has to penetrate the victim in a sexual way.
What equipment does a woman have to penetrate a male?

 

[Tallguy88]

As would female genitals that had been circumcised but.. that's different for purely imaginary reasons.

Organizations which combat FGM say it isn't comparable to male circumcision. Even the British recently ruled that they are substantively different.

British court: Male circumcision reasonable; Female genital mutilation always wrong

 

[Dave-W]

As would female genitals that had been circumcised but.. that's different for purely imaginary reasons.

You clearly do not understand what Female Circ actually involves. There is nothing imaginary about the differences.

 

[Teslafied]

Are you happy with your circumcision?

Wait my bad, I've made a mistake, when you take a little girl and butcher her genitalia it's called, "female genital mutilation" when you do the same to a little boy it's "covenant with god".

God commanded believers to circumcise their sons, NOT their daughters. Yes circumcision is OT as in its not required for salvation but it's still important. Look at baptism it's not necessarily required but it's still important.

I'm not too fond with sarcasm I don't know quite how to take your sarcasm...

 

[Teslafied]

it's neither better for health and hygiene, nor attractive. circumcised penises are cartoonish.

I think uncircumcised penises are ugly, they look like elephant trunks, and they reek of dead skin in nether region. It's not healthy.

 

[Teslafied]

See below. Also, as someone who is circumcised, I'm quite happy with the outcome. It looks better, is easier to clean, various sexual benefits (which I won't go into, of course), and it being a sign of the Covenant.

For those who say it would be better for men to make the decision in adulthood, I quite disagree. I'm glad it happened so far back that I can't remember it.



As you say, it's a slippery slope fallacy. Circumcision has been the practice of Jews for roughly 3000 years and of American Christians for about 150 years. If it were going to lead to other parts being cut off, it already would have. And yet, among Jews and Christians, there is no other body modification that is performed for religious reasons.

I think we as believers have a right to circumcise.

 

[Teslafied]

It does? Where? (to a gentile)

Circ is a covenantal sign of the Jews - the Abrahamic and Mosaic covenants specifically.

There is neither Jew nor Greek.