Church Panic

[Alecto]

There wasn't by any chance an amount of inscence in the air at that Church? I felt like I was going to pass out a few times at my own Church because of the type of inscence they used.

It was late at night, there wasnt any burning.

Besides that, I don't object to what others have said about a spirit uprising. Am I correct in assuming this occured when the pastor began reading aloud from the bible?

No, he was reading to himself, not aloud.

 

[New_Found_Faith]

It was late at night, there wasnt any burning.

Still there can be some in the air. Esspecially if you get migranes like I do it can still have an effect on you.

No, he was reading to himself, not aloud.

Praying maybe. For you? If you wore your pentegram in a way that he could see it, it would've been natural for him to pray for you.

You say that you believed in a Christian God and he "let you down." I've got to wonder where your head was at in the first place. Being a Christian is about being a servant. Christians are servants to God, not the other way around. What exactly happened when you were a Christian that caused you to turn to paganism?

 

[Alecto]

Still there can be some in the air. Esspecially if you get migranes like I do it can still have an effect on you.

Even so, it shouldnt have effected me, Im not allergic to incense and I burn it on a regular basis with no ill effects

Praying maybe. For you? If you wore your pentegram in a way that he could see it, it would've been natural for him to pray for you.

Doubtful, he was about 50 feet away from us when we first entered and he never really came close enough to see my neckwear and my sweatshirt was covering my belt buckle.

You say that you believed in a Christian God and he "let you down." I've got to wonder where your head was at in the first place. Being a Christian is about being a servant. Christians are servants to God, not the other way around.

Its hard to serve when the master does nothing for you. I put my faith and trust in God that if I respected him, worshiped him, that I would be allright. I did and...it didnt work.

What exactly happened when you were a Christian that caused you to turn to paganism?

A series of unfortuneate events. Most of which Im not willing to discuss publicly. I turned away from Christianity after I was convinced that people had got thier views of God as perfect and loving wrong. He is, in my mind, no different than any of us. I wandered around for a while, sort of spiritually lost. Then I found a website on Paganism, I became interested and found more websites, then I went and read books, and Ive never looked back since

 

[Gracie710]

Alecto,

I certainly understand what you mean about feeling like God let you down. I believed in Jesus as a young child, despite the fact that I had a very (and I mean, very) abusive childhood. I also turned away from God and became involved in the occult, and a lot of other things (drugs, alcohol) because I was in a lot of pain.

After being in some very painful situations, and trusting in a lot of things besides God, I was broken to the point that I had nothing left but to turn towards Jesus again and "give it another try," because I was so desperate. If something else had worked, I probably would have gone with that.

I can't explain why a loving God so often would seem to turn a blind eye to suffering. I haven't been able to thoroughly answer why God allowed me to suffer terribly as a defenseless child. I don't know why some of the things that happened to me, did.

As a child I remember pretty vividly being visited by entities that seemed to be very friendly who promised to take away my pain. In such pain from abuse, it seemed like a good bargain to me -- just agree to let these spirits "come in" and they would make me feel better. And -- it worked! I did feel better -- numb, encapsulated. The pain wasn't as fierce and I could get through the day, which seemed a much better option.

But even at the time it "felt" wrong, but better than being in pain!

What I did not realize then, that God has led me to understand, is that these beings were NOT my friends, but in reality were demons who were seeking to destroy me. "Messengers of light," who, not in real comfort, but took my pain away by "freezing" it, by deadening my spiritual senses, and who I gave ground to in my life by accepting them. It was much later in my life that I paid a dear price for what I allowed them to do. That is why I said that, later in your life, your gods will prove to be harsh task masters.

The Word says, "there is a way that seems right to a man, but the end of it is death." Had I continued to allow my "friends" to guide me, had I not reached out to God, I'm sure I would be dead now.

But instead the Lord has led me to a place of peace and comfort -- true comfort. I used to be a slave to many things that would have destroyed me. But now I am only a slave of Christ, which makes me free!

I believe that your gods will enslave you in the end, and were "yanking your leash" in that church, for lack of a better term. This may sound like malarkey to you, and if so, of course you are free to disregard me.

God bless you.

 

[Alecto]

Marut, how old are you really, because you certainly dont come off like any 15 year old Ive ever met Very wise, If I may say so. I have never really thought of it that way, but then again I believe in path destiny.

I certainly understand what you mean about feeling like God let you down. I believed in Jesus as a young child, despite the fact that I had a very (and I mean, very) abusive childhood. I also turned away from God and became involved in the occult, and a lot of other things (drugs, alcohol) because I was in a lot of pain.

When I became involved in Paganism, I felt this...welcoming feeling, like it was where I was supposed to be, home I guess would be the best term. It was like I had been away from home for a long long time and was just comming back. It felt right and I durrived much comfort from it. The Gods have been my guides for about 4 years now. And I have grown far more in these years than I have in the rest of my life, for the better.

Just as Christianity has been a positive force in your life, so has been Paganism in mine.

 

[popslittlewonder]

There was this shirt at Bereans that had like the love sign with hands and then it said at the bottom life "Jeses and Heavy Metal"

 

[Marut]

Marut, how old are you really, because you certainly dont come off like any 15 year old Ive ever met Very wise, If I may say so.

Aww shucks.......
Thanks, but I really am 15, I've just met a lot of very wise people in my life.

Just as Christianity has been a positive force in your life, so has been Paganism in mine.

A wise man sees both sides of an issue: A wiser man accepts both.

God(s)(dess)(?) Bless!

 

[John812]

Just as Christianity has been a positive force in your life, so has been Paganism in mine.

God our Father is the only positive force, and all those who belong to Him. Whatever forces are at work in paganism are blinding you. They are well aware of God, and are rejected because of their wickedness - and are trying to bring as many into their fold as they can. Seek God's mercy Alecto and repent of your sins. There is genuine love in God's kingdom, but only deception and hatred from the spirits of paganism. Run from them, and run to Christ, the Lamb of God.

 

[Theophorus]

Ok, Im having a few friends over. The parents are gone so its just a couple of us hanging out. One of my good friends, JJ, has been having a few home life problems. When she came over, she was quiet and reserved. A little un-usual but nothing to call 911 over. As the night went on, she seemed to get a little more upset.

I decided to walk and talk, my favorite flavor of therapy for people I care about. They recently finished a church just a few blocks down the street so I decided to pick that as a place to walk with JJ. JJ is religious, but she doesnt make it a focus of her life, shes a very laid back Christian but she feels very comfortable in chuch which was one of the reasons I decided on the church as a place to go (And they have a REALLY cool stained glass window of the four horsemen )

We were walking and talking like usual, we got to the church and went inside. The pastor asked us if we needed anything, I said no we just came for a place to talk. He nodded and went up to the front of the church where he had a huge bible on a podium facing the benches. We sat down in the back and kept talking as he started to read.

After a couple minnutes, I started to feel a little...uncomfortable. Kind of like how you feel when your driving and you can feel someone watching you from annother car. A few more minnutes went by and the feeling grew more and more noticeable. Like when your walking home at night and you know someone is following you. It was like a crushing prescense that I couldnt explain, but it was...cold, like ice.

It started to feel like someone was pouring sand onto my chest, just this crushing feeling. My skin started to feel cold. Whats strange is I didnt feel affraid, no fear what so ever. Youd think if you felt like that youd be affraid, but I wasnt affraid, it was more like frustration and an urge to fight back.

I started to feel dizzy. At that point I jumped up and ran outside, I couldnt shake it. Thats when I started to feel real anger, defensive anger. The anger that wells up inside you when someone wrongs you. I did the next best thing, or combination thereof, that I could think of. I took off my promise ring and the pentacle around my neck, I held them both in my hands and just focused on those two objects.

After maybe a minnute or two, the wierd feeling and the anger faded slowly. I opened my eyes and JJ was standing there with the pastor looking like they had seen blood gushing out of my eyes. I shook it off, told them both I was ok.

I walked JJ back home and....found David and Yaz trying to settle a bet about who could eat the most raw horseradishes before throwing up. (I have wierd friends)

Im not quite sure what to do or how to react. Ive done a cleansing and some shielding and I dont feel ill-at ease or nervous. Drained I guess is the best term.

JJ thought it might have been low blood sugar or just being very cold. I...dunno about that, I put away about 4 slices of pizza about an hour before I left and I had a sweatshirt and jeans on.

What do you think?

I would be more than a little concerned if I were you. Get rid of the pentagram. Go see a priest.