What are you talking about?
The conversation was about mental capacity, having their rights taken away. Who said they were criminals, I didn't.
Who said anything about not having punitive laws for criminals? I didn't.
the specific case talked about was a dishonorably discharged veteran that was unstable..you then claimed that such people are reported for just being depressed one time which I questioned sighting our daughters experience with PTSD and physical issues. In fact, one of her friends was discharged for PTSD. so yeah I know a bit about it....now if you want to change your claim that is fine with me but continuing this back and forth when you apparently don't even know what was said has to stop. The report I heard was that the bill in question required the military to report unsable veterans to the gun sellers. As such that is what I was specifically talking about as was clear in the context of my comments. If you don't agree that that is common sense that is on you.
Of course it doesn't make sense, nor did I say anything to that effect, for you to be wondering.
I think you do not understand the principle of law. Punitive laws are absolutely put in place for the criminal WHO violates another's rights. The criminal often foregoes his own liberty for infringing on an others.
exactly my point that you are arguing against....but no worries you are entitled to your own opinions no matter how silly they might seem to me.
And , that is settled, we do not agree on that point.
And I will dare say - I said no such thing, nor should you have dared to make such an untrue accusation.
Yes, that is an exercising of liberty.
Who said without regard? I didn't. You can do what ever you want. Laws don't stop you. Stop signs don't make you stop. You simply choose to stop, because you may personally feel it is the safe thing to do, or because you do not want the risk the consequence of maybe receiving a ticket.
yep but that isn't what is being discussed and since you seem to be arguing that we shouldn't have any laws I think we are done. I personally think some laws are needed for a functioning society we just need to make sure that they are not crossing the line of liberty.
What do you mean "for who they hurt" ? Who did someone hurt? You didn't mention anyone being hurting someone, nor did I. So why are you going off making accusations
about what I "have no regard for", when someone being hurt never happened?
what I said is that someone who is unstable enough to claim and show signs of going to hurt someone should be reported to gun sellers and red flagged from purchasing such items....you disagreed which is fine if you want to disagree but my guess is that you have been so interested in arguing with me that you haven't really heard what I said and just argued to have something to say.
You paint your own position. Perhaps others agree with you. I don't, so what.
I retract that entire statement regarding your child, you had not mentioned by gender.
No I did not. I gave a hypothetical that gave a scenario of one bout of depression.
You replied with a personal real scenario and mentioned a report from a military evaluation. I said nothing about your report, so no, I did not tamper and change your report.
lol but you see, the only argument I made was that a dishonorably discharged vet who is unstable and making claims of wanting to hurt someone should be reported. You disagreed sighting that one bout of depression can get you reported. I showed that that is not how the military works through real life example. So you see, your arguing with me about a dishonorably discharged unstable vet not a bout of depression.
You gave me the impression you were talking about one of your children.
No clue who "the man in question is ".
Tried to us explosives? Either he has or he hasn't.
If he has, there is a consequence.
If he hasn't, you want there to be a consequence for not doing something your are not supposed to do?
lol what I said is that if he is showing signs of doing so we shouldn't sit around and watch him carry it out or stand around and encourage him to go all the way. You disagreed with that statement which I find troubling. If you disagree with stopping someone from committing a crime than I certainly don't want to live in a household or community where you are the ruler. IOW's if we encourage crime we are guilty as well. Guilt by just watching or encouraging the sin/crime. At least that is how I see it. You are free to disagree but Christ never just stood around and encouraged sin nor just watched it passively. Consider the temple...overthrowing the money changers certainly was not a passive event.
You changed the scenario.
no dear, you did because as your posts showed you didn't listen to what I said.
How can you say I agree or disagree with you, on a completely different scenario you just mentioned?
lol I haven't changed anything I have said but your posts showed you didn't "hear" what I said....which is a huge problem for communication.
That is nothing I have said, so I'll leave that to being what you think, and said.
Your mind has thought for me, things I do not think.
Your words have spoke for me things I have not said.
In that regard, your thoughts and your words are yours not mine, to try and talk you out of disagreeing with yourself.
look, I can only read your posts where you quote me in the context of what I said. If you want to reinvent what I said I can't keep up with you which makes it on you.
Again you, change the scenario to WATCHING PEOPLE HURT EACH OTHER.
Who said that was acceptable?
I think your claim is false. QUOTE ME saying what you claim, I said.
God Bless,
SBC
It's all about context dear one, context. If you go back and read my comments for what I said and not what you want me to have said then respond accordingly I am guessing we agree on most things...the problem is you refuse to address what I said and then claim I am reinventing..which is really pretty funny but I digress...if you want to change your stand and agree with me that is fine, personally I don't care if you agree or don't but please stop with the reinventing non sense then accusing me of your own sins.
