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Your internet connection must have quit giving you problems.that special prayer worked for the thief on the cross , but usually we are not on the cross when we
"accept him" we are not reaping what we deserve!
when we
accept him AS LORD do we know what LORD even means ?
and do you know who you are even and that we are just like the thief ? do we know that ?
so until you/ we come to the full realization , who and what you are and what sin is and what is in us.. you haven't excepted his grace because chances are until then we don't think we need it.. and we won't think we deserve what the thief got .
maybe so far we only use his grace and his presence to FEEEEL better and to get something out of it . like the people did with the golden calf.. they felt good while they were having that orgies. they wanted only to be blessed by him, but they didn't want to give him anything ... not even three days.
that special prayer starts the process where he commits to bring us to the truth of who he is and who we are. then we are made Right/ous .
In order to not sin, we must be crucified with Christ. Paul speaks of it, it is called the baptism of death.
our language is so lacking , consider the word 'love' . at least in the hebrew and greek it has like 7 words for it..Do you think this fellow loved God? He certainly "loved" the child. According to posts here all that is needed is love. This man can not be Judge by God's Holy law as has been reported here, so by what standard would he be Judged?
I would ask you to read your post a couple times.How on earth did you get that from my post??? I didn't say that,the bible doesn't say that. I said we are forgiven--the blood of Jesus will cleanse us from sin on judgment day--that is, if course, if you have asked to be forgiven and have truly repented, which only God can determine. You want to party hearty, go right ahead. That judgment has no value is what MC is saying, not I. But then, I think all he has to do is go to his priest, confess and say 50 Hail Mary's and it's over and done with--the priest forgives you so,apparently, God has to, so he doesn't have anything to worry about, apparently that sidesteps the whole judgment day thing anyway. And what is the purpose of judgment day if your outcome has already been decided at your death? you either go to heaven or hell right after you die according to those who believe that. There is no judgment day for them--what is God going to do--ooops--sorry--you got sent to the wrong place so out you go and head on down to the other place?
i it is up to us.
You validate what I said. Thanks!What rest are you talking about? You mean rest from sins committed or the Sabbath?
Now we are discussing the sins of an individual and not the subject any more. Some people will do anything to wiggle out of a problem. I really do not think your post is on topic or within the scope of the thread." In Christ we don't sin"
In our area a christian pastor just got thrown in jail for child molestation( at least 20+ counts) .
I wonder what kind of preaching he did on the issues of if a christian can sin or not ..
I bet he believe he is forgiven even before he did all that to those kids .
I guarantee it won't do him much good..
Jesus said exactly what happens to these who harm children , HIS CHILDREN .
meaning especially preachers.
I suspect this Guy believes he is sinless because his denomination believes in OSAS .
might I suggest there isn't a special enough prayer for this.
Those poor kids !
pray for their healing guys!
you better believe christians can sin and will be judged either by our fruit or the law.
He won't be mocked we will reap what we sow!
Right. Yet we in fact do.
You must not understand what is going here or the organization the art work belongs to.'That church'?
Not quite. It's not our decision, it is His; John 1:13; Romans 9:16; James 1:18.
Didn't you know Jesus conquered sin and death? Didn't you know He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world? Didn't you know Satan is crushed and defeated and sin has no power over you?
You don't have to anymore. I don't have to.
I choose life. I choose the promises of Jesus. I choose life.
our language is so lacking , consider the word 'love' . at least in the hebrew and greek it has like 7 words for it..
but the preacher I am sure said he 'loved' God and kids..
but he defiled both by the seeds of death and destruction he sowed.
love is not any kind of defilement is it ?
real love has no laws.. but that stuff isn't any kind of love.
in the mean time he has to have been preaching false doctrines and promoting hell and protecting the wolfs .. in God's churches. so not good
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
In order to not sin, we must be crucified with Christ. Paul speaks of it, it is called the baptism of death.
Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. 5For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection
More like the flesh (the old man) can not do it as you require and prove it is impossible.True - it is the saved saint that walks in obedience and the wicked lost "Cannot" do it.
Rom 8
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
1 Cor 7:19 "What matters is KEEPing the Commandments of God"
So Christians, 'those crucified with Christ' don't sin?
Now we are discussing the sins of an individual and not the subject any more. Some people will do anything to wiggle out of a problem. I really do not think your post is on topic or within the scope of the thread.
More like the flesh (the old man) can not do it as you require and prove it is impossible.
What is your proof the preacher was a Christian. There are many pagans in church pulpits making easy money. It is nothing more than a meaningless job to them. They care about nothing. I worked for 1 of them for a year.well truth has to walk and talk..in real life . not just theory of theology and the theory of sin.. and
your theories have to walk
the theory of how christ over comes in the raging consuming black holes of destruction didn't proving out . this christian sinned the greatest sin from behind the pulpit even. and every child in his church now believes there is no such things as sin. So whatever it was that he was preaching never helped him overcome anything. Maybe because he had convinced himself he didn't need to have fruit in his fruit and or life in his life ..
Your theories have to walk and talk or they are as dead in sin and destruction as that preacher is .
BY his grace on the cross he will weight the the life in our life and fruit in our fruit and if there is none of these , we leave him with NO option.. but to then judge us with the law. just because we used his name in vain and are thus subject to the laws of idolatry because we did not subject ourselves to his Lordship. .
Why does the person in the hypothetical picture you've provided have to be a Christian? Is there proof that this picture provided is showing a Christian standing before the Christ of God, or does it depict a lost man?
The Christian will be judged for the things done in his body to receive what is due (2 Corinthians 5:10). The law served to show us we all fall sort and are all sinners. It's done its judging in that sense here, and shows that all are sinners.
Romans 8 does not say that.
He contrast the saved vs the lost - different people,,,,, not "different natures".
Rom 8
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
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