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Christianity without Satan?

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He is just saying he believes that Satan is real as the Bible states.
 
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Sounds like possibly he misunderstood what you meant .... you believe satan exists (ok, yes he does) .... not that you believe in satans ways ... If in fact this IS what you meant. If you believe it's ok to follow satans ways ... then I understand why he talked with your mother.
 
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I can see it now....... I walk to the front of the church and yell " I believe!!!" The crowd goes wild.......until I finish with " in Satan!" Usher escorts me through the church doors with a nice boot mark on my pants.

But it is nice to see there are some here who would welcome this.
 
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Ridiculous analogy ... not even comical
 
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Oh no!

I don't believe in Satan's ways - I am very much opposed to him!

If I remember correctly I vowed to explicitly shun him when I got confirmed earlier this year (in a Christian church)

But I believe he exists, and I believe the bible says he does too

As I said before, he was worried about my mental health
 
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As a person who was a Unitarian for around six years I'm pretty sure that if someone turned up to the church I went to and proclaimed themselves a Satanist that they'd be tolerated and maybe even welcomed
 
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As a person who was a Unitarian for around six years I'm pretty sure that if someone turned up to the church I went to and proclaimed themselves a Satanist that they'd be tolerated and maybe even welcomed
This doesn't surprise me, as we live in a time where men call good evil and evil good. However there are many who just do not know they are on a wrong path. Many who server Satan while believing their Father is the Living God.

We must pray that truth comes to all when they are able to bear it.
 
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well ... perhaps you should chat with him ... because I think he misunderstood ... about the satan thing anyways ... we all know satan exists ;o)
 
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Its ok to talk about our enemies. The bible says not to be ignorant of the enemies tactics or something like that.
 
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It is very very important to know that satan is very very real in existence.

Satan is the very one who want us to think that he doesn't exist!
 
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Does anyone here think Christianity can work without The Devil?
Adam and Eve gave Satan, through his deception, the "in" to humanity. They both walked with the Lord prior to the fall. The work on the cross through Jesus Christ of Nazareth was for the restoration of the relationship once lost through disobedience by Adam and Eve. The Holy Spirit was restored to those who believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth. God created the devil for one reason, to test our Love for Him. Satan seems to play a part in God's plan for the human condition from the beginning and until the end.
Be blessed.
 
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Not to believe in Satan is an extremely dangerous position, one Satan prefers us to have. You don't defend yourself against an enemy you don't believe exists.
 
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Not to believe in Satan is an extremely dangerous position, one Satan prefers us to have. You don't defend yourself against an enemy you don't believe exists.

And to not believe in Satan is not believing God's word.
 
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Come on brother we've been through this before, the only remotely relevant Justinian anathemas against universalism that gained Conciliar ratification were those regarding 'souls only' restoration. The Nicene Creed leaves universalism open, and in fact the Cappadochians and other eminent Church fathers were avowed universalists.

It wasn't an issue until Jerome and Augustine with their latin mistranslations and Romish outlook. We know Justinian's anathemas were politically motivated, without the full support of even the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] 5th Council, as many including even the Pope refused to attend. In fact, Origen's contribution to theology was arguably greater than that of Augustine.

So please refrain from promoting the monstrous fable that universalism is a formal heresy. Who needs salvation more than the devil, after all?
 
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He is just saying he believes that Satan is real as the Bible states.
If you tell people you believe in Satan, they might not understand you.
 
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It is very very important to know that satan is very very real in existence.

Satan is the very one who want us to think that he doesn't exist!
Actually it would be more beneficial to believe in him, and attach his likeness and form, to something other than he is........Only then, can our father be the Devil.......when we think our Father is the living God. Nay, not believing in him at all, would be preferred to believing in a self created image.
 
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Not to believe in Satan is an extremely dangerous position, one Satan prefers us to have. You don't defend yourself against an enemy you don't believe exists.
Lets say, I dont believe in your image of Satan, and you do believe in it. Beside the satisfaction and praise you may receive from being a part of a large, likeminded group....What other benefits would you receiving from believing in the image of Satan?
 
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I would be very skeptical about any minister who is worried about a person who is believing in the word or God. There are many denominations out there that only consider some of the scriptures. You’ll never get the full true message unless you embrace all scripture.
 
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