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[Crispie]

Epistle of James, 5:16 (second part)
The fervent prayer of a righteous person is very powerful.



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Romans 5
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.





Shows that all of Christs followers are Saints, and are made rightious in Christ, so knowing that, we can conclude that the prayer of Christians can be very powerful. Hes telling Gods people that thier prayers can be powerful, not telling that "good people's" prayer can be powerful! The bible clearly says without Christ we are sinners and all fall short.

 

[Crispie]

Excuse me, but I have to interrupt by saying, Yes, but when done in the way that our Father told us. There is no intercession for our prayers except Christ. Mary is not any more special than I am before Christ. Praying to Mary, for example, takes the personal relationship away that we are supposed to have with Christ only. It is a direct violation of intercessory prayer per Bible.

Mary is no more of a saint that I am. All people who have accepted Christ on His terms are saints. God sent some apostles, teachers, etc.......... for the perfecting of the saints. Get the context of saints down properly. Mary being a special saint?? Who are we to boast, but boasting in the works of Christ. Since when did our works become elevated to the works of Christ done through us by the Holy Spirit. So what special works did Mary do that the Holy Spirit does not do through every true Christian?

In all honesty, we should make a thread for this stuff. It is not fair to continue, let alone, start this off-topic discussion to begin with.

Please consider. I will not further comment on this off-topic portion but will be happy to discuss this in another thread or PM.

God Bless you!

 

[Blynn]

Since this thread has gotten so off-topic and turned into a "Catholic's are not Christians" thread it is now officially closed.




Thank you,
Blynn
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