Beside the quotations that you and I have presented so far, there are many other passages in which Isaac of Nineveh expresses his belief in UR:
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Beside the quotations that you and I have presented so far, there are many other passages in which Isaac of Nineveh expresses his belief in UR:reading?? dont see argument
Criticize? No.Do we criticize the Lord's parable, now? Did He misspeak? Why should anyone doubt that the Lord meant exactly what He said: that those who have done what God wants will go to eternal life. We are put in this world in order to be God's hands and feet that administer justice to the "little people." How else is the power of Christ's agape supposed to be experienced in the world? What is the value of faith be without faithfulness?
You seem to be a Calvinist and discussions with Calvinists are generally pointless. If you're interested in seeing why all Christianity rejects, except Calvinists, reject your point of view, you will find a lot of articles online explaining how the passages you quote should be interpreted. You can also read the following article:Not so. "None are righteouse, NO not One"! Throughout Romans 9, Paul systematically shows that God’s sovereign election has been in force from the very beginning. He begins with a crucial statement: “For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel” (Romans 9:6). This means that not all people of ethnic Israel (that is, those descended from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) belong to true Israel (the elect of God). Reviewing the history of Israel, Paul shows that God chose Isaac over Ishmael and Jacob over Esau. Just in case anyone thinks that God was choosing these individuals based on the faith or good works they would do in the future, he adds, “Though they [Jacob and Esau] were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad – in order that God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls” (Romans 9:11). Who are the elect of God? | GotQuestions.org
Absolutely sick when you realize that the Church concocted this mental illness to control the masses. The long-term damage still rages today, centuries later. Imagine what it was like in the days when heretics were being burned at the stake.
How is death defeated when people are subjected to the 2nd death?Steve, do you agree that According to 1 Corinthians 15:42-55, the believer’s resurrection, when “the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality,” is the moment when death itself is defeated, that is, “swallowed up in victory.”. But as 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 makes clear...... “The last enemy to be destroyed is death” (v26), which is leaving no more enemies in existence.
It was a real thing. I kid you not. Here's the link.
Evangelism Explosion - EE International | Homepage
It was created as the ultimate tool for spreading the gospel. And I remember the emphasis at church about seamless apologetics. To be able to answer any objection to the gospel message.
I also remember going door-to-door in an apartment complex sharing with people. A church was started in the community room at the complex. The group eventually rented a larger church building and finally built their own building. It still exists today to my knowledge. I wonder if any of the original members are still there. I attended that church for a short time. (30-40 years ago)
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I wonder of that was EE ? (Evangelism Explosion)
I agree.What is wrong with repentance? Didn't the Apostle Peter ask people to repent?
Act 3:19 Repent, therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be wiped away,20 and that the Lord may grant you times of refreshment and send you the Messiah already appointed for you, Jesus,
It is clear that evil people will go to eternal punishment. Now plz look at the meaning of eternal in post #1970.History before it happens is found all throughout the Scriptures. One such relevant verse is what the Lord said he will say to some people: "Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels" (Matt. 25:41). Jesus could not have been more clear in stating that some people will end up in eternal fire. This should be enough to refute universalism, but there are many other proofs as well: "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life "(Matt. 25:46).
Here's a 3 min video on Steve Gregg's homepage that explains it:
It is clear that evil people will go to eternal punishment. Now plz look at the meaning of eternal in post #1970.
From my POV it started with a Western/Latin doctrinal bias that was projected onto the Bible translation process (Augustine at the helm) which then was preached and enforced. A progression that led to "heretics" (declared doctrinal dissenters) being burned at the stake. How twisted and bizarre is that? A spiritual poison that was concocted from my view. Perhaps the word "concocted" carries a slightly different meaning for you? Perhaps there's a more appropriate word. (send help - lol)Not sure if the Church concocted it, but they certainly developed it into an art form. Nothing like the exquisite sadism of torturing someone in the mind and spirit while persuading them it's for their own good. Spiritual gaslighting.
If you see me laughing, it's just to keep from crying.
Yes, I have less of a problem with evangelism, and more of a problem with Evangelicalism.The five finger signs, it could be great if they replaced the Avon-calling routine with a bit of true gospel...imho.
Yes, I have less of a problem with evangelism, and more of a problem with Evangelicalism.
Evangelism netted a lot of fish, but I think they ended up in the wrong boat. Our job is to invite them to the right boat. Unfortunately, that sounds like walking the plank during "Shark Week" (TV reference) to most of them. - lol
Wow, "jumped the shark"; that's a most curious phrase. Not familiar.Lol, sadly the Church may have jumped the shark when it settled on ECT and/or penal substitution.
The fact of the matter is that only Christians volunteer at the soup kitchen and give regularly to local church charities to help those in need. Mother Theresa was amazed to see that no one helped the "little people" in the streets of Calcutta. Can the non-Godly be motivated to help the "little people"? I doubt it.However, it is an incomplete gospel to claim that salvation is by good works alone. Right? Yet, that's what we get in Mathew 25:31-46. Furthermore, my point was that those who put Mathew 25:46 on a pedestal wouldn't accept such an incomplete gospel. Some call that cherry-picking.
From my POV it started with a Western/Latin doctrinal bias that was projected onto the Bible translation process (Augustine at the helm) which then was preached and enforced. A progression that led to "heretics" (declared doctrinal dissenters) being burned at the stake. How twisted and bizarre is that? A spiritual poison that was concocted from my view. Perhaps the word "concocted" carries a slightly different meaning for you? Perhaps there's a more appropriate word. (send help - lol)
That has more to do with education.Mother Theresa was amazed to see that no one helped the "little people" in the streets of Calcutta. Can the non-Godly be motivated to help the "little people"? I doubt it.
Wow. What the Church won't do to retain subscribers. - lol
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