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Because more recent eminent scientists who are also Christians are generally not creationists and the producer of the video did not want to bring it up?

Because tolerant people hate conservatives so it's difficult
for conservatives to be open about their beliefs.
Contemporaries also exist in numbers.
 
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Are you trolling?
No, I'm not trolling.

I'm asking you that, if you like the Psalms, would you still be forced to admit they have no value?
 
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No, I'm not trolling.

I'm asking you that, if you like the Psalms, would you still be forced to admit they have no value?

You seem to not understand philosophy.

Value nihilsm means that I dont hold values to exist no matter what I like or dont like.
 
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Value nihilsm means that I dont hold values to exist no matter what I like or dont like.
Then the answer to my question, I take it, is YES?
 
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You are confused Eight-Foot-Manchild! I never claimed that abiogenesis is described as working that way. Neither have I ever come across anyone else making that ridiculous claim. Maybe you are incapable of perceiving when hyperbole is being employed?

If you don't accept abiogenesis, then please describe the process you think produced life.
 
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I am not arguing from a creationist standpoint-I am arguing from an ID standpoint. I suggest that you familiarize yourself with the fine difference between the twain in order to avoid straw-man.

Then please explain how ID and creationism differ when it comes to the origin of life.

According to you, what is your proposed process for the origin of life?
 
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Because tolerant people hate conservatives so it's difficult
for conservatives to be open about their beliefs.
Contemporaries also exist in numbers.

People who support tolerance do not like intolerance. This is surprising for what reason?
 
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People who support tolerance do not like intolerance. This is surprising for what reason?

Intolerance comes with the package of being open minded.
Sorry. Ya don't get to have it all, as long as it agrees with you.
That's intolerance.
 
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Intolerance comes with the package of being open minded.
Sorry. Ya don't get to have it all, as long as it agrees with you.
That's intolerance.

That's like saying someone who is anti-racist must also accept racism. That's just stupid.

Supporting tolerance includes calling out racism and other forms of discrimination. Tolerance means tolerating different ethnicities, races, and religions. Tolerance does not mean putting up with bigotry.
 
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That's like saying someone who is anti-racist must also accept racism. That's just stupid.

Supporting tolerance includes calling out racism and other forms of discrimination. Tolerance means tolerating different ethnicities, races, and religions. Tolerance does not mean putting up with bigotry.

Oh, I'm afraid it does mean exactly that.
Tolerance is a big pill to swallow and not
politically correct.

One must love bigots equally with vegetarians.
 
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Oh, I'm afraid it does mean exactly that.

No, it doesn't. Being open minded does not mean tolerating bigotry or falsehoods.

"a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, beliefs, practices, racial or ethnic origins, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry. "
the definition of tolerance
 
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No, it doesn't. Being open minded does not mean tolerating bigotry or falsehoods.

"a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, beliefs, practices, racial or ethnic origins, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry. "
the definition of tolerance

It does not say intolerance of bigotry.
Unfortunately the tolerant must tolerate it all.
As your
definition explains
"a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, beliefs, practices, racial or ethnic origins differ from one's own."
 
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It does not say intolerance of bigotry.
Unfortunately the tolerant must tolerate it all.
As your
definition explains
"a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, beliefs, practices, racial or ethnic origins differ from one's own."

You forgot the last part, which says freedom from bigotry. Tolerance does not mean putting up with intolerance.

If you want, you can complain about those awful liberals who are intolerant of bigotry, discrimination, and falsehoods. You could moan and whine about how conservatives are called out for being bigoted, discriminatory, and passing on falsehoods. That's essentially what you are doing.
 
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You forgot the last part, which says freedom from bigotry. Tolerance does not mean putting up with intolerance.

If you want, you can complain about those awful liberals who are intolerant of bigotry, discrimination, and falsehoods. You could moan and whine about how conservatives are called out for being bigoted, discriminatory, and passing on falsehoods. That's essentially what you are doing.

That would mean-----> "you" <----the article being described, is without bigotry.
Not your environment which you must accept with an open and tolerant mind.
 
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That would mean-----> "you" <----the article being described, is without bigotry.
Not your environment which you must accept with an open and tolerant mind.

Fine. I am intolerant of bigotry, racism, discrimination, and falsehoods. What an awful person I am.
 
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I am not arguing from a creationist standpoint-I am arguing from an ID standpoint. I suggest that you familiarize yourself with the fine difference

As the Dover trial has demonstrated, in reality, there is no real difference.
 
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So when you say that the things being described as having occurred are magic, what do you mean?

Probably the same thing as when he says that Harry Potter uses magic, when discussing those books.

Or that the ring from Lord of the Rings is a magical ring.
 
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