Christian Polygamy

[Gunny]

I personally think that it is just another way to disguise sexual immorality, so that men can feed their own "Idolatrous" appetites.

Amen and Amen!!!

 

[Gunny]

And yet Solomon who practiced it so often was said to be the wisest man who ever lived.

When Jesus Christ (Word made flesh) entered into this world and began His ministry He stated and raised the bar regarding the sexual conduct of those that have been truly born again of God's Holy Spirit.

The manner in which Jesus commands the disciple (of Jesus Christ) to conduct themselves can not be done in the flesh but only by the Holy Spirit being master over the soul (thoughts, emotions, desires and wants).

True Christianity is not "a life style" it is a submitted life (denying self) so as to live out our destiny in Christ Jesus being about our Father's business vs. being conformed to the things of this world.

 

[HonestTruth]

Jesus had every opportunity to ban Levirate marriage but chose not to do so. Evidently, he knew that there are other things besides continued prayer to be done in order to live.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

Polygamy is not actually deemed a sin in the Bible. I'm sure just about anyone who has read the Scriptures have realized this- it is said that marriage should be between one man and woman. It's self-evident why God would prefer this. But it's never declared sinful. Solomon and many others in the Bible had multiple wives.

 

[dayhiker]

From my reading of the Bible and history its pretty clear to me that God blesses people who are monogamous and to are poly. When we have God standing behind Moses when Moses takes his 2nd wife in Num.12 and telling David thru Nathan in 2 Sam.12 that if he had wanted more wives all David had to do was ask. That it was Roman law that one could only have one wife while Israel, the people God had more than one wife, that the church if following Roman law and not the pattern that God set up with His people.

Thanks how I read it.

 

[HonestTruth]

Polygamy is not actually deemed a sin in the Bible. I'm sure just about anyone who has read the Scriptures have realized this- it is said that marriage should be between one man and woman. It's self-evident why God would prefer this. But it's never declared sinful. Solomon and many others in the Bible had multiple wives.

It is also a matter of historical fact that Christians continued to practice polygyny for about 300-400 years after the Resurrection, that Sephardic Jews practiced it for the next 1400 years, and that Yemeni Jews still tolerate it today. Indeed, there is no sin in polygyny.

 

[SwordmanJr]

It is unacceptable today. In the Old Testament God tolerated it but it was not the original plan. Matthew 19:3-9

Tolerated? God gave David at least two wives in addition to what he already had, according to Nathan the prophet, so to say that it was merely "tolerated" rejects the very actions of God Himself.

God permitted it because the hearts of the Israelites were hard. As Christians we cannot harden our hearts and we must submit to the will of God.

What you are doing here is the very thing you would never allow a mormon or jehovah's witness to do, which is to inject non-existent wording and meaning into the word of God that's not in the context. Can you show me where the Lord said anything about anything in relation to marriage apart from DIVORCE in that discourse?

Thanks

 

[HonestTruth]

To say God ''tolerated'' polygyny is without basis - in fact he blessed Old Testament patriarchs through it.

In the New Testament we are told to "not be yoked with non believers" 2 Cor 6:14 just as we were told in the Old Testament to "learn not the way of the heathen" in Jeremiah 10:2. Monogamy is a pagan practice mandated by the Romans. Therefore, we are not bound by the ways of these heathens. On the contrary, if we lived true biblically based lives the world would be better for it.

 

[Dom Puccio]

From a non-biblical view:
Gross
Disrespectful
Legality issues
Not socially accepted

I don't think Christians should ignore those reasons.

 

[dayhiker]

I personally haven't experienced anything gross about being poly.
Since everyone is living at choice I don't see how its disrespectful.
Yes, one can't marry more than one person.
Lots of things haven't been acceptable at time, like people marring out of their race. So things change.

 

[Rajni]

Im Curious About Christian (Non Mormon ) Women Views On Polygamy? Do You Thinks Its Ok Biblically? Would You Be Up To It?

I’m not sure I’d be up to it, myself. As a divorcee, I
don’t plan on marrying ever again (nothing against
my ex—it’s the aspects of marriage itself I’m simply
happier without).

However, I don’t find the concepts of polygamy or
polyandry off-putting in the least. That said, I think it
probably would work best with those who have
mastered the egoic aspect of the mind; i.e., any
notions of one’s ownership / possession of the other
person(s) would have to be overcome, which takes a
very high level of emotional maturity, imo. The same
would go with polyamory.

-

 

[dayhiker]

I agree, chaela.
It also helps a lot if one enjoys seeing the one one loves being excited/happy because they love, loves someone else as well.

 

[SwordmanJr]

From a non-biblical view:
Gross
Disrespectful
Legality issues
Not socially accepted

I don't think Christians should ignore those reasons.

Gross? Hmm. The Lord didn't consider it gross to have given David at least two more wives in addition to those he already had. The Lord didn't consider it gross to have commanded a surviving brother to take his dead brother's wife as his own, and to have vicarious children for the dead brother through his dead brother's widow.

Disrespectful? To whom?

Legality issues? What legalities? The law only prohibits acquiring more than one license at a time. Nowhere does the word of God attach a moral crisis to the absence of a marriage certificate from the government. At no time did the Lord command that the definition of marriage is in the hands of any other than Himself!

Not socially accepted? When did social sensibilities become a defining authority for morality? Society accepts women murdering their unborn on the basis of so-called "women's rights". More than 50% of professing Christians are divorcing and remarrying, therefore living out serialized polygamy, adultery and fornication! That seems to be acceptable to most church organizations whose preachers say not one word about any of what's going on under their noses, and they will poo poo polygyny? That, my friend, is hypocrisy.

 

[HonestTruth]

Excellent reply, Swordsman.

''The Lord didn't consider it gross to have commanded a surviving brother to take his dead brother's wife as his own'' ~ and significantly, professing Christians fail to see that Jesus sanctioned Levirate marriage in Matt 22.

If Jesus specifically allows something how can people who call themselves Christian object to it???


Folks, like it or not, it is time to set aside much of church teaching and to awaken to the Bible's actual teaching. Polygyny IS biblically permissible. READ the Bible and you will see that this statement is correct.

 

[johnbastion]

They were only tolerated. Like He tolerated divorce.

But Jesus Christ in the New Covenant raised the standards and said, "if anyone divorces his wife, he causes her to commit adultery"

Divorce was permitted only because:

"They were permitted because of the hardness of your hearts"


*[[Mat 19:7-9/NASB]]* %v 7% They said to Him, "Why then did Moses command to GIVE HER A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE AND SEND her AWAY?" %v 8% He said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way. %v 9% "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."

 

[johnbastion]

Excellent reply, Swordsman.

''The Lord didn't consider it gross to have commanded a surviving brother to take his dead brother's wife as his own'' ~ and significantly, professing Christians fail to see that Jesus sanctioned Levirate marriage in Matt 22.

If Jesus specifically allows something how can people who call themselves Christian object to it???


Folks, like it or not, it is time to set aside much of church teaching and to awaken to the Bible's actual teaching. Polygyny IS biblically permissible. READ the Bible and you will see that this statement is correct.

You are mistaken. You are misquoted scripture.

God allowed a man to take his dead brother's wife. Why do you extrapolate that to mean any other woman as wife also?

When you read scripture compare it with other scripture portions to know what the mind of the Lord is.

 

[Hank77]

Legality issues? What legalities? The law only prohibits acquiring more than one license at a time. Nowhere does the word of God attach a moral crisis to the absence of a marriage certificate from the government. At no time did the Lord command that the definition of marriage is in the hands of any other than Himself!

Bingo! Where were you when I was trying to explain this in another thread about how legal common law marriage in all 50 states would free pastors and churches from the legalities of the government and marriage.

You are mistaken. You are misquoted scripture.

God allowed a man to take his dead brother's wife. Why do you extrapolate that to mean any other woman as wife also?

When you read scripture compare it with other scripture portions to know what the mind of the Lord is.

I would advise you to read the story about Ruth. Naomi's brother-in-law already had a wife and children but he was suppose to marry Ruth to carry on his brother's family line and he refused.

 

[SwordmanJr]

They were only tolerated. Like He tolerated divorce.

What verse(s) prove this?

But Jesus Christ in the New Covenant raised the standards and said, "if anyone divorces his wife, he causes her to commit adultery

What does that have to do with polygyny? Where did the Lord ever draw that parallel?

Divorce was permitted only because:

"They were permitted because of the hardness of your hearts"

You're trying to attach divorce to a martial form God directly involved Himself in the giving? By what authority? I'd really like to see this, because it looks to me like you're trying to makes use of the same eisegetical practices I've seen in a number of cults.

 

[SwordmanJr]

You are mistaken. You are misquoted scripture.

God allowed a man to take his dead brother's wife. Why do you extrapolate that to mean any other woman as wife also?

When you read scripture compare it with other scripture portions to know what the mind of the Lord is.

If you can show me where the word "allowed" can be derived from the Hebrew texts of the subject passages, then I'd very much like to see it.

 

[SwordmanJr]

Bingo! Where were you when I was trying to explain this in another thread about how legal common law marriage in all 50 states would free pastors and churches from the legalities of the government and marriage.

Although some can think up benevolent sounding reasons and intriguing justifications for government intrusions into marriage and its definition, I still cannot get one of those people to show me where the Lord ever dropped the ball of His authority over marriage and its definition down to mankind, our traditions, our governments, our rules, our misconceptions, our dogmas, or our assumptions about what constitutes marriage.

Look how many people in America have possessed those pieces of paper, and yet were never married according to God's definition of marriage in Genesis 2. Yes indeedee. Many people have lived in fornicative/adulterous relationships with the local government's full endorsement, and yet preachers the world over think themselves qualified to demand that the absence of that paper in a marital relationship is sin. That makes about as much sense as claiming that islam is a peaceful religion.