Christian outreach to Satanists.....

[DennisTate]

There's a difference between satanists of the historical variety and of the lavey satanism and there are also discordian satanists that may incorporate misconceptions into their beliefs just for kicks.

Intriguing.........

...... a majority of Satanists might tend to know that little Colton Burpo is indeed a credible witness..... but they would tend to deliberately deny the fact that they already know that he really is a good witness.

Luke 16:8

"And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light."


Friends of yours watch Heaven Is For Real and ask you about it?


Is Colton Burpo a credible witness?
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[JoeP222w]

Christianity and the Bible are not proven to be true by proving all other worldviews (including Satanism) to be false. That would be an endless task and a fool's errand. And nowhere in the Bible are Christians commanded to be God's defense attorney in the blasphemous courtroom of one who hates God and who thinks that they have the right to judge God.

Christians are commanded to proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ and make disciples of all nations. God is the one who converts the soul. Christians are commanded to proclaim the truth in grace.

 

[DennisTate]

Christianity and the Bible are not proven to be true by proving all other worldviews (including Satanism) to be false. That would be an endless task and a fool's errand. And nowhere in the Bible are Christians commanded to be God's defense attorney in the blasphemous courtroom of one who hates God and who thinks that they have the right to judge God.

Christians are commanded to proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ and make disciples of all nations. God is the one who converts the soul. Christians are commanded to proclaim the truth in grace.

True......
but in the spirit of:

Mat 5:25

"Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison."

.... I personally can admit that I went through a pretty serious theological and philosophical crisis over several scriptures once I learned the the Soul Sleep doctrine that I had accepted since 1972 was in error.

Matthew 22:14

"For many are called, but few are chosen."

Matthew 7:13

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:"



My conversation with the Rabbi.....

 

[Gregory Thompson]

In light of picking your battles wisely, the epistle to the romans illustrates that the summary of the law is that love doesn't harm their neighbour. I.e. if someone isn't harming you, don't be a fool and start something.

 

[DennisTate]

In light of picking your battles wisely, the epistle to the romans illustrates that the summary of the law is that love doesn't harm their neighbour. I.e. if someone isn't harming you, don't be a fool and start something.

One of the best explanations for some of the unusual testimonies that I have read...... is that the first major fallen angel is actually conducting an experiment on the fallen angels....... and on us humans ...... that is somewhat like the Milgram Experiment.

There is a surprising amount of evidence for this idea and it could cause a huge number of Satanists to become Christians in a very short period of time.

Already the ones who do have been given powerful testimonies that can reach many people.

I believe that the message to Bluerose31 has a great deal of truth to it........... and fits with a Yom Kippur event somehow happening before the Millennium which is typified by the Festival of Tabernacles / Sukkot.

Satanism Ending

 

[Gregory Thompson]

One of the best explanations for some of the unusual testimonies that I have read...... is that the first major fallen angel is actually conducting an experiment on the fallen angels....... and on us humans ...... that is somewhat like the Milgram Experiment.

There is a surprising amount of evidence for this idea and it could cause a huge number of Satanists to become Christians in a very short period of time.

Already the ones who do have been given powerful testimonies that can reach many people.

I believe that the message to Bluerose31 has a great deal of truth to it........... and fits with a Yom Kippur event somehow happening before the Millennium which is typified by the Festival of Tabernacles / Sukkot.

Satanism Ending

There's a connection between the new age movement and satanism. At first people seem very happy and loving, and it seems like an eccelctic collection of all sorts of people, but as things progress it is common to become disillusioned from happy happyism and then a lot of people who were new agers one year become satanists the next year. Not all I'd mention, but it's definitely a long standing trend.
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if satanism is ending, the spirits using that religion may have laundered enough soul energy through energy vampirism to create whatever it is they're storing all that for.

 

[Radagast]

Yes....... and a pretty powerful case can be presented that some of the astonishing technology that the USA and Russia have actually may have came from contact with aliens.....

That's just nonsense.

We know where the technology came from, and who invented it, and how it works.

 

[DennisTate]

There's a connection between the new age movement and satanism. At first people seem very happy and loving, and it seems like an eccelctic collection of all sorts of people, but as things progress it is common to become disillusioned from happy happyism and then a lot of people who were new agers one year become satanists the next year. Not all I'd mention, but it's definitely a long standing trend.
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if satanism is ending, the spirits using that religion may have laundered enough soul energy through energy vampirism to create whatever it is they're storing all that for.

Wow... yes........
we are living in a time period where if we do not drink in of the Holy Spirit.....
we will automatically drink in of the darkness.

... but...... it is possible that Satan / Lucifer and/ or Azazel.... actually want his followers to
become genuine and sincere Christian Warriors of the RAinbow????

Are we going to sacrifice the oceans on the altar of the economy?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Wow... yes........
we are living in a time period where if we do not drink in of the Holy Spirit.....
we will automatically drink in of the darkness.

... but...... it is possible that Satan / Lucifer and/ or Azazel.... actually want his followers to
become genuine and sincere Christian Warriors of the RAinbow????

Are we going to sacrifice the oceans on the altar of the economy?

Warriors of the Rainbow. This term is used in a prophecy about Rainbow children and is popular among Indigo Children who have similar distinguishing marks that Christians do but are system busters. This is relevant because Indigo groups and other similar groups draw in a certain crowd who only want positive energy, that in turn attracts satanists who treat these types as their property.
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I'm not sure about the names of the main players, but what I gathered in my time, their objectives seem to be very "anime" so it's hard to say if this too is a troll or not.
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(edit) But if it is not an elaborate joke made up for marketing purposes, then perhaps that's what the (siphoned) energy is being used for.

 

[DennisTate]

Warriors of the Rainbow. This term is used in a prophecy about Rainbow children and is popular among Indigo Children who have similar distinguishing marks that Christians do but are system busters. This is relevant because Indigo groups and other similar groups draw in a certain crowd who only want positive energy, that in turn attracts satanists who treat these types as their property.
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I'm not sure about the names of the main players, but what I gathered in my time, their objectives seem to be very "anime" so it's hard to say if this too is a troll or not.

My opinions on a number of questions have changed greatly over time........
my opinions have reversed on some ideas but.....
at this time.... i regard Pastor Rick Joyner as somebody with a huge Cephas / Peter and John the Baptist mantle, destiny, calling...... on his life...............

Genuine Warriors of the Rainbow from many backgrounds would be able to recognize this man as being major, major, major league.........

Acts 19:13

"Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?"

....... Pastor Rick Joyner......."This is My cup. Will you drink it with Me?"

There was no way that I could refuse Him. As the Lord continued to look at Me I began to feel His great love. Even as foul as I was He still loved me. As undeserving as I was He wanted me to be close to Him. Then He said:

"I love all of these with a love that you cannot now understand. I also love all who are supposed to be here but did not come. I have left the ninety nine to go after the one who was lost. My shepherds would not leave the one to go after the ninety nine who are still lost. I came to save the lost. Will you share My heart to go to save the lost? Will you help to fill this room? Will you help to fill these thrones, and every other seat in this hall? Will you take up this quest to bring joy to heaven, to Me and to My Father? This judgment is for My own household, and My own house is not full. The last battle will not be over until My house is full. Only then will it be time for us to redeem the earth, and remove the evil from My creation. If you drink My cup you will love the lost the way that I loved them."

He then took a cup so plain that I was surprised that it even existed in a room of such glory, and He placed His tear in it. He then gave it to me. I have never tasted anything so bitter. I knew that I could in no way drink it all, or even much of it, but I was determined to drink as much as I could. The Lord patiently waited until I finally erupted into such crying that I felt like veritable rivers of tears were flowing from me. I was crying for the lost, but even more I was crying for the Lord.

I looked to Him in desperation as I could not take any more of this great pain. Then His peace began to fill me and mix with His love that I was feeling. Never had I felt anything so wonderful. This was the living water that I knew could spring up for eternity. Then I felt as if the waters flowing within me caught on fire. I began to feel that this fire would consume me if I could not begin declaring the majesty of His glory. I had never felt such an urge to preach, to worship Him, and to breathe every breath that I was given for the sake of His gospel.

"Lord!" I shouted out, forgetting everyone but Him. "I now know that this throne of judgment is also the throne of grace, and I ask You now for the grace to serve You. Above all things I ask You for grace! I ask You for the grace to finish my course. I ask You for the grace to love You like this so that I can be delivered from the delusions and self-centeredness that so pervert my life. I call upon You for salvation from myself and the evil of my own heart, and for this love that I now feel to flow continually in my heart. I ask You to give me Your heart, Your love. I ask You for the grace of the Holy Spirit to convict me of my sin. I ask You for the grace of the Holy Spirit to testify of You, as You really are. I ask for the grace to testify of all that You have prepared for those who come to You. I ask for the grace to be upon me to preach the reality of this judgment. I ask for the grace to share with those who are called to occupy these empty thrones, to give them words of life that will keep them on the path of life, that will impart to them the faith to do what they have been called to do. Lord, I beg You for this grace."

The Lord then stood up. Then all of those who were seated upon the thrones for as far as I could see also stood up. His eyes burned with a fire I had not seen before.

"You have called upon Me for grace. This request I never deny. You shall return, and the Holy Spirit shall be with you. Here you have tasted of both My kindness and My severity. You must remember both if you are to stay on the path of life. The true love of God includes the judgment of God. You must know both my kindness and severity or you will fall to deception. This is the grace that you have been given here, to know both. The conversations you had with your brethren here were My grace. Remember them."

He then pointed His sword toward my heart, then my mouth, then my hands.

When He did this fire came from His sword and burned me with a great pain. "This too is grace," He said. "You are but one of many who have been prepared for this hour. Preach and write about all that you have seen here. What I have said to you say to My brethren. Go and call My captains to the last battle. Go and defend the poor and the oppressed, the widows and the orphans. This is the commission of My captains, and it is where you will find them. My children are worth more to Me than the stars in the heavens. Feed My lambs. Watch over My little ones. Give the word of God to them that they may live. Go to the battle. Go and do not retreat. Go quickly for I will come quickly. Obey Me and hasten the day of My coming."

A company of angels then came and escorted me away from the throne. The leader walked beside me and began to speak.

"Now that He has stood He will not sit again until the last battle is over. He has been seated until the time when His enemies are to be put under His feet. The time has now come. The legions of angels that have been standing ready since the night of passion have now been released upon the earth. The hordes of hell have also been released. This is the time that all of creation has been waiting for. The great mystery of God will soon be finished. We will now fight until the end. We will fight with you and your brethren."

I awoke." (Pastor Rick Joyner, The Final Quest).....

 

[Gregory Thompson]

It's a strange kind of war, the kind of war where being in a constant state of aggression only feeds the enemy. We are indeed more than conquerors, kingdom builders all.

 

[DennisTate]

A message as powerful as this two page statement......
supposedly from the Patriarch Adam to Pastor Rick Joyner in a visionary dream of heaven.....
can only come from two sources...... either extreme light, truth, love... .the Ancient of Days the FAther......
or from the darkest pit of hell......
this writing is brilliant so it has to be either......
a piece of the puzzle in the "turning of the hearts of the children to their Fathers" or......
it would have to be a counterfeit????????

There is no middle ground for a writer like Pastor Rick Joyner.......

A message from Adam to all of humanity?! Does this sound legitimate to you???

 

[DennisTate]

It's a strange kind of war, the kind of war where being in a constant state of aggression only feeds the enemy. We are indeed more than conquerors, kingdom builders all.

Over and over and over again in the beginning of the part of his visionary dream of heaven

... Pastor Rick Joyner claims that he was shown that his own sins......
could be compared with the sins of Satan......
In my opinion.... that is exactly what the Life Review part of a near death experience is meant to teach us first.........

Part of the astonishing power that Pastor Todd White has is his humility and ability to take his 22 years as a drug addict....... as a very serious type of sin......
but I and my old church......
we got into blasphemy against the Holy Spirit... or something awfully close to it..... .and felt that it was a service to God.......

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner
....(from the section... The Judgment Seat of Christ.... or.... The Truth of Grace....)

....."As they walked away I was again being overwhelmed by my own sin. The times that I had used people for my own purposes, or even used the glorious name of Jesus, to further my own ambitions, or to make myself look better, began to cascade down upon me. Here, where I could behold the power and glory of the One I had so used, it became more repulsive than I thought I could stand. I fell on my face in the worst despair I had ever known. After what seemed like an eternity of seeing these people and events pass before me, I felt the woman lifting me to my feet again. I was overcome by her purity, especially as I now felt so evil and corrupt. I had the strongest desire to worship her because she was so pure.

"Turn to the Son," she said emphatically. "Your desire to worship me, or anyone else at this time, is only an attempt to turn the attention away from yourself, and justify yourself by serving what you are not. I am pure now because I turned to Him. You need to see the corruption that is in your own soul, but then you must not dwell on yourself, or seek to justify yourself with dead works, but turn to Him."

This was said in such genuine love and concern that it was impossible to be hurt or offended by it. When she saw that I understood, she continued:

"The purity that you saw in me was what my husband first saw in me when we were young. I was relatively pure in my motives then, but I corrupted his love and my own purity by letting him worship me wrongly. You can never become pure just by worshiping one who is more pure than you, but only by going beyond them to find for yourself the One who has made them pure, and in Whom alone is no sin. The more people praised us, and the more we accepted their praises, the further we departed from the path of life. Then we started living for the praises of men, and to gain power over those who would not praise us. That was our demise, and was the same for many who are here in the lowest place, but were called to be in the highest."
" (Pastor Rick Joyner, The Final Quest).....

 

[Gregory Thompson]

A message as powerful as this two page statement......
supposedly from the Patriarch Adam to Pastor Rick Joyner in a visionary dream of heaven.....
can only come from two sources...... either extreme light, truth, love... .the Ancient of Days the FAther......
or from the darkest pit of hell......
this writing is brilliant so it has to be either......
a piece of the puzzle in the "turning of the hearts of the children to their Fathers" or......
it would have to be a counterfeit????????

There is no middle ground for a writer like Pastor Rick Joyner.......

A message from Adam to all of humanity?! Does this sound legitimate to you???

Yeah turn the hearts of the fathers to children, because we're supposed to be as children, the sun of righteousness comes with healing in its wings, but also may afflict the earth with a curse if not received.

 

[FireDragon76]

Not all Satanists are followers of Anton LeVay's thought. Some Satanists are simply people making up a religion as they go, or they are using Christian symbolism to rebel against authority.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Over and over and over again in the beginning of the part of his visionary dream of heaven

... Pastor Rick Joyner claims that he was shown that his own sins......
could be compared with the sins of Satan......
In my opinion.... that is exactly what the Life Review part of a near death experience is meant to teach us first.........

Part of the astonishing power that Pastor Todd White has is his humility and ability to take his 22 years as a drug addict....... as a very serious type of sin......
but I and my old church......
we got into blasphemy against the Holy Spirit... or something awfully close to it..... .and felt that it was a service to God.......

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner
....(from the section... The Judgment Seat of Christ.... or.... The Truth of Grace....)

People who persecute the way of grace always get hit on the road to damascus and given some epic mission that no one else can understand, there are always special missions that God saves for the trouble makers.

 

[DennisTate]

People who persecute the way of grace always get hit on the road to damascus and given some epic mission that no one else can understand, there are always special missions that God saves for the trouble makers.

Proverbs 28:23

He who rebukes a man will find more favor afterward
Than he who flatters with the tongue."


Funny that you mention that....
i feel called into Canadian politics....
I was at a Liberal Party meeting several years ago and
a high ranking party official said to me that "You are a .... disturber!".....

and I pled guilty.......

She is one of my favourite members of Canada's Liberal Party but I did leave the party in
December of 2015 because after they were given a majority government I figured that
they would not at any time in the near future allow me to do anything with my proposed.......

Ban intra-cardiac potassium chloride injections on singletons in Canada.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Proverbs 28:23

He who rebukes a man will find more favor afterward
Than he who flatters with the tongue."


Funny that you mention that....
i feel called into Canadian politics....
I was at a Liberal Party meeting several years ago and
a high ranking party official said to me that "you are a .... disturber!".....

and I pled guilty.......

She is one of my favourite members of Canada's Liberal Party but I did leave the party in
December of 2015 because after they were given a majority government I figured that
they would not at any time in the near future allow me to do anything with my proposed.......

Ban intra-cardiac potassium chloride injections on singletons in Canada.

In Canadian politics, now we have to deal with the same people buying off the US politicians, they now have the same speech writers and playwrights.

 

[DennisTate]

Yeah turn the hearts of the fathers to children, because we're supposed to be as children, the sun of righteousness comes with healing in its wings, but also may afflict the earth with a curse if not received.

Some strange evidence in some research in parapsychology sure seems to indicate non-linear time.... .... applied Multiverse Theory..... .multiple Ezekiel 37 style events............

Question... .when G-d creates a new time line......
is Azazel and/ or the 208 Watchers who fell with him......
replicated... duplicated... cloned..... resurrected as well???????


The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Some strange evidence in some research in parapsychology sure seems to indicate non-linear time.... .... applied Multiverse Theory..... .multiple Ezekiel 37 style events............

Question... .when G-d creates a new time line......
is Azazel and/ or the 208 Watchers who fell with him......
replicated... duplicated... cloned..... resurrected as well???????


The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

The multiple timeline theory in which people who are vibrating high get to live in a good world and everyone else goes to hell basically is similar in mechanics to the satanic energy trick where they try to clone your body feeling so you trust in that fake body so they can control that body and thus do a faux possession. The creating a happy happy world delusion is just a scam to trap people in a world controlled by the human creators and make more satanists as bitterness at the helplessness sets in.