Christian having to learn Evolution in school- need advice

[LoricaLady]

If learning about evolution is going to be a problem for you, then you should not pursue any science related degree or any degree which requires at least some sort of biology or related course...so basically every degree is then off the table.

You can't be fearful of what you don't honestly seem to even know anything about. You can study & learn about evolution, & then decide how to interpret what you learn - in light of actual science & in light of your faith.

One thing needs to be made clear: Christians do not agree about evolution. Christians likewise do not agree about how to interpret the Genesis creation account in the Bible. Believing in a specific interpretation of the creation is not a litmus test for Christian orthodoxy. Even the Early Church Fathers were not in agreement about the details of creation, & their writings predate Darwin's theory.

As for me personally, I do accept that some forms of evolution do exist & take place, though I am not "sold" on the concept of macro evolution of humans. I believe the "days" in Genesis are unspecified periods of time, not literal 24 hour days. It is interesting to note a "7" day creation, as the # 7 used throughout the Bible often denotes "completion." So, when God rested on the "7th day," creation was "complete," not necessarily that there was a literal 24 hr day 7 on our calendar He rested. And finally, I do not believe in "young earth creationism" (YEC).

Again, Christians disagree about these things, so don't let yourself fret over it or be fearful.

Evolutionists do NOT agree about evolution either! I have given numerous examples of how to see that in the post above. I have given resources where you can even see them admitting that there is no evidence for it.

You are so sure the poster hasn't studied the issue as well as, say, you. Have you seriously and honestly studied both sides? Rhetorical Q. If not, perhaps you should do so and then give your "Christian advice."

You are advising someone not to get training in science if they don't believe in evolution. Guess what? I have a masters of science in speech/language pathology. We studied things like gross anatomy, audiology, neuroanatomy. Guess what? We never had to study anything whatsoever about evolution. You know why? Because it was irrelevant. It is always irrelevant because it is simply not true.

And you don't learn to do critical thinking, to think for yourself, by doing a head check on what Christians, or even scientists, "agree on." At one time, all scientists, including Einstein, thought the universe was eternal. You learn to think for yourself. You learn what science really is, and you check the data. You carefully study both sides.

 

[Sophrosyne]

As others have said.... evolution is called a "theory" and as long as you approach it from that aspect then it is up to you to decide if it is true (fact), false (fiction) or something in between the two. Personally I find evolution as a whole is more of a miracle to believe in than Jesus entire life from virgin birth to death, burial, and resurrection from the dead and find often people exalt evolution above the miracle of Christ when they do believe in it fully.
The problem with evolution is that it starts with a premise that species adapt which nobody who understands adaptation disagrees with and builds on this to conclude that adaptation triggers new species which then evolve to form newer species and thus all this points back to a single cell organism that magically created itself from a pool of perfect amino acids under perfect conditions of which no laboratory on earth has ever been able to replicate to thus produce life and show the start of this chain of events that end up with... us.
It is good to know the theory of evolution, but don't feel pressured to believe in it by those who would ridicule you as unintelligent if you choose not to buy into it fully.

 

[blankCrossfire]

St. Paul says first man Adam, what is your point? Presuming he believed that Adam was a literal man doesn't make all his statements correct.

Do you say that Adam was the first man? Literally?
Can you see what would be asked of you if you said this wasn't the case?

Which brings me back to...

Genesis 2:7
then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.

Is this statement true or false?
I just never seem to get a response when I quote this verse to someone who believes "both".

You're putting Paul into question at the expense of evolutionary theory.

Galatians 1:11-12
For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man's gospel.[a] 12 For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ.

With regards to hair, Paul also said:

But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God

If Paul had a misunderstanding, surely Jesus did also.
Do you realize what you're saying?

God did not directly write the Bible, people did. People have misconceptions, they have misunderstandings.

What does this say about The Bible?

St. Paul was a man, he sinned, he had misunderstandings, he had his own perceptions of things should be. He and Peter had a misunderstanding between themselves didn't they? That's already known.

Was Adam the first man?
What becomes of original sin if he isn't?
People who try to reconcile the two seem to always put evolutionary theory above God's word.

 

[blankCrossfire]

I will add now that I will leave this. Neither of us is going to convince the other. You are free to believe in your understanding of the Biblical accounts as I.

I also think it is besides the point of the thread, and also a huge waste of time.

We can research in our spare time on the various issues and draw our own conclusions,

Fair enough

 

[TheyCallMeDavid]

Been a while
Hope everyone is well!

I am a Christian 19 year old girl with dreams and goals laying in the road ahead of me. Im strong in my faith and I wouldn't doubt the word of God for a moment!


A recent concern has crept upon me in my last year of High School. I have decided my future career I wish to pursue is Applied Science Human Nutrition. You need a certain amount of credits in certain subjects and some are compulsury. I have to study Biology Level 3 which includes a section about evolution. As a christian, this has worried me as to pursue my career I have to full on study the theory of evolution.. Anything I would learn I know is lies and that is the part I dread.. All I need is the credits and thats what I keep thinking. Could any Bible believing Christians please give me some advice about this , a part of me is hesitant but I kinda have to if I want to achieve a better life with a job I will be passionate about. For additional information I have studied Genesis recently with my Bible Correspondence and I believe firmly in the way the earth was created and how we were created. Evolution couldn't change my mind about that but am still needing constructed, straight forward advice.



Thank you in advance for any given advice,
God bless!


<3

As a devoted CHristian, you can and should embrace MICRO evolution because that is biblical where there are small changes within a kind or family resulting in many various dogs, horses, stingrays, bumblebees, etc... Its the MACRO type of evolution, or Darwinnian Evolution aka : Chemical Evolution that has one kind turning into a totally different kind such as a whale into a cow or ape into a man.... that we should not believe in. Even secular Evolutionists in Biology tell us that its by faith that this occurred (see below for a short list of notable Evolutionists) .

I believe you could have a good career in Biology or Micro - biology or any number of the sciences ... because there are such a thing as a Creationist Scientist and based on very good reasonable emphirical evidences. In fact, I think a Creationist Scientist would be a very good instrument in Gods hands and you could use your career and education to give testimony to Gods handiwork . So, I would not be fearful of entering into a Field which is predominately secular ; I believe God wants a greater influence in the different sciences which shows his remarkable creativity and impossibility that blind random unpurposed mutational accidents (ad infinitum) could give way to remarkable highly irreducible complex organism or process . The examples of this are bountiful in the area of Biology ...so much so, that its confounded the most brilliant of Evolutionists from providing a cogent rational answer .

In closing, as you proceed in your studies and career, be prepared for your Christian Faith to come under attack and ridicule because it will always be seen as an affront to those who must never acknowledge a personal theistic Creator for our highly personal, intelligent based, information infused Creator . Even within Scientific circles, there exists a strong arrogance and pride infused with great bias. Often to the point of deliberately fabricating fraudulent results as has been proven in the past with the Monkey Men charade . So, I wish you well as you go forward representing our incredible Creator in your specific field of Study , and if you stay true to your Faith, you will be used mightily and blessed enormously by God . I wish you much success .


When Evolutionists themselves speak out against their field, you know its been fallacious all along :

" It is therefore a MATTER OF FAITH on the part of the biologist that
biogenesis (evolution) did occur and he can choose whatever method of
biogenesis happens to suit him personally ; the evidence for what did
happen is not available" --- Evolutionist Prof. G.A. Kerkut of the
University of Southampton. Source : Implications of Evolution. London.
Pergamon Press, 1960, page 150.



" The more one studies paleontology, the more certain one becomes that
evolution is based on FAITH ALONE" -- Evolutionist Prof. T.L. Moor .
Origins ? The Banner of Truth Trust, 1988 page 22.



" We Palenontologists have said that the history of life supports (the
story of gradual adaptive change) , all the while really knowing that it
does not" -- Dr. Niles Eldredge. Darwin on Trial. Regnery Gateway,
1991, page 59.


" The record of reckless speculation of human origins is so astonishing
that it is legitimate to ask whether much science is yet to be found in
this field at all" -- Evolutionist Dr. Solly Zuckerman. Darwin on
Trial. 1991. page 82.

From an article in Science Digest Special---

" Scientists who utterly reject Evolution may be one of our fastest
growing controversial minorities ... Many of the scientists supporting
this posiiton hold impressive credentials in science" . -- Educators
Against Darwin. winter 1979, page 94



" I believe that one day the Darwinnian myth will be ranked the
greatest deciet in the history of science "--- Prof. Soren Lovtrup,
Embriologist. Darwinism : The Refutation of a Myth. 1987. page 422.

" The more i examine the Universe and the details of its architecture,
the more evidence i find that the Universe in some sense must have known
we were coming"--- Prof. Freeman Dyson, Physicist from Princeton Univ.
'Disturbing the Universe' . 1979. page 250.



" The more man is imbued with the ordered regularity of all events, the
firmer becomes his conviction that there is no room left by the side of
this ordered regularity for causes of a different nature (than a Creator)"
-- Albert Einstein. His LIfe and Times. page 286.

And finally, the bottom line from an "agnostic" Astronomer (and my
favorite) ----

" For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason,
the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of
ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak and as he pulls
himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of Theologians who
have been sitting there for centuries reading Genesis 1:1 : In the
Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth" --- agnostic Prof. Robert
Jastrow founder of Nasa's Goddard Institute. His book, 'God and the
Astronomers. page 116.

 

[dysert]

Been a while
Hope everyone is well!

I am a Christian 19 year old girl with dreams and goals laying in the road ahead of me. Im strong in my faith and I wouldn't doubt the word of God for a moment!


A recent concern has crept upon me in my last year of High School. I have decided my future career I wish to pursue is Applied Science Human Nutrition. You need a certain amount of credits in certain subjects and some are compulsury. I have to study Biology Level 3 which includes a section about evolution. As a christian, this has worried me as to pursue my career I have to full on study the theory of evolution.. Anything I would learn I know is lies and that is the part I dread.. All I need is the credits and thats what I keep thinking. Could any Bible believing Christians please give me some advice about this , a part of me is hesitant but I kinda have to if I want to achieve a better life with a job I will be passionate about. For additional information I have studied Genesis recently with my Bible Correspondence and I believe firmly in the way the earth was created and how we were created. Evolution couldn't change my mind about that but am still needing constructed, straight forward advice.



Thank you in advance for any given advice,
God bless!


<3

Hi Time,

I'm a Bible-believing Christian who has been there myself. Of course I don't know about you, but in my schooling (both HS and college) I've had to take classes where I didn't accept what was being taught. It's the nature of getting an education. I could listen all day long about evolution or the Big Bang or abiogenesis, etc. I could also listen to someone expound on the Gilgamesh Epic, The Hobbit books, Marxism, Socialism, etc. The point is that part of getting an education is learning to separate the wheat from the chaff. You're exposed to a bunch of stuff -- some of it is worthwhile and some of it isn't. But you have to be exposed in order to advance toward *your* ultimate goal. So my advice is to take the course (you may even find it interesting) and when it's over shake the dust off your feet and look toward the future. It will have been worth it.

 

[BFine]

Kudos to Dysert!
I wholeheartedly agree, learn to separate the wheat from chaff.

And doing this each day:
Ephesians 6:10-17
"Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power.
Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes.

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.

Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.

Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto
with all perseverance and supplication for all saints

 

[Quasicentennial]

I am totally spellbounded every time my imagination of the universe is created by a single entity who existed before time began, after watching the fascinating picturesque imaginations of an 11 eleven-year old boy in Brad Pitt's movie: The Tree of Life on my 60 inch 3D plasma TV:.
There's even a huge question that nobody can answer because our minds react on events that should follow in a chronological order on one single solar system, our own. Only problem is, was there a previous solar system, or more, before our present one, where Earth was formed with all the usual life of animals, plants and human beings, before that solar system collapsed, then creating another tremendous silent period of rock debris in space before our present solar system existed?
Such similar "generational solar systems" can be done by a simple experiment: by facing 2 face mirrors at each other, a couple of inches from your left eye and the other on your right eye, and you can see infinite mirror images of the same mirror:.
Anyway, one thing's for sure, our future-coming evidence of Christ himself, along with the most advanced supernaturally-constructed kingdom of God - will definitely reveal in full glory the full facts behind Creation, and yet it's so easy for me as longtime Christian to say it, and it doesn't mean I have an intelligence level that's off the scale .;'*';.
Rev 21:2

 

[LoricaLady]

As a devoted CHristian, you can and should embrace MICRO evolution because that is biblical where there are small changes within a kind or family resulting in many various dogs, horses, stingrays, bumblebees, etc... Its the MACRO type of evolution, or Darwinnian Evolution aka : Chemical Evolution that has one kind turning into a totally different kind such as a whale into a cow or ape into a man.... that we should not believe in. Even secular Evolutionists in Biology tell us that its by faith that this occurred (see below for a short list of notable Evolutionists) .

I believe you could have a good career in Biology or Micro - biology or any number of the sciences ... because there are such a thing as a Creationist Scientist and based on very good reasonable emphirical evidences. In fact, I think a Creationist Scientist would be a very good instrument in Gods hands and you could use your career and education to give testimony to Gods handiwork . So, I would not be fearful of entering into a Field which is predominately secular ; I believe God wants a greater influence in the different sciences which shows his remarkable creativity and impossibility that blind random unpurposed mutational accidents (ad infinitum) could give way to remarkable highly irreducible complex organism or process . The examples of this are bountiful in the area of Biology ...so much so, that its confounded the most brilliant of Evolutionists from providing a cogent rational answer .

In closing, as you proceed in your studies and career, be prepared for your Christian Faith to come under attack and ridicule because it will always be seen as an affront to those who must never acknowledge a personal theistic Creator for our highly personal, intelligent based, information infused Creator . Even within Scientific circles, there exists a strong arrogance and pride infused with great bias. Often to the point of deliberately fabricating fraudulent results as has been proven in the past with the Monkey Men charade . So, I wish you well as you go forward representing our incredible Creator in your specific field of Study , and if you stay true to your Faith, you will be used mightily and blessed enormously by God . I wish you much success .


When Evolutionists themselves speak out against their field, you know its been fallacious all along :

" It is therefore a MATTER OF FAITH on the part of the biologist that
biogenesis (evolution) did occur and he can choose whatever method of
biogenesis happens to suit him personally ; the evidence for what did
happen is not available" --- Evolutionist Prof. G.A. Kerkut of the
University of Southampton. Source : Implications of Evolution. London.
Pergamon Press, 1960, page 150.



" The more one studies paleontology, the more certain one becomes that
evolution is based on FAITH ALONE" -- Evolutionist Prof. T.L. Moor .
Origins ? The Banner of Truth Trust, 1988 page 22.



" We Palenontologists have said that the history of life supports (the
story of gradual adaptive change) , all the while really knowing that it
does not" -- Dr. Niles Eldredge. Darwin on Trial. Regnery Gateway,
1991, page 59.


" The record of reckless speculation of human origins is so astonishing
that it is legitimate to ask whether much science is yet to be found in
this field at all" -- Evolutionist Dr. Solly Zuckerman. Darwin on
Trial. 1991. page 82.

From an article in Science Digest Special---

" Scientists who utterly reject Evolution may be one of our fastest
growing controversial minorities ... Many of the scientists supporting
this posiiton hold impressive credentials in science" . -- Educators
Against Darwin. winter 1979, page 94



" I believe that one day the Darwinnian myth will be ranked the
greatest deciet in the history of science "--- Prof. Soren Lovtrup,
Embriologist. Darwinism : The Refutation of a Myth. 1987. page 422.

" The more i examine the Universe and the details of its architecture,
the more evidence i find that the Universe in some sense must have known
we were coming"--- Prof. Freeman Dyson, Physicist from Princeton Univ.
'Disturbing the Universe' . 1979. page 250.



" The more man is imbued with the ordered regularity of all events, the
firmer becomes his conviction that there is no room left by the side of
this ordered regularity for causes of a different nature (than a Creator)"
-- Albert Einstein. His LIfe and Times. page 286.

And finally, the bottom line from an "agnostic" Astronomer (and my
favorite) ----

" For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason,
the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of
ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak and as he pulls
himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of Theologians who
have been sitting there for centuries reading Genesis 1:1 : In the
Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth" --- agnostic Prof. Robert
Jastrow founder of Nasa's Goddard Institute. His book, 'God and the
Astronomers. page 116.

Thanks for all the good quotes. There are so, so many of those where evolutionists are really admitting their theory is not based on evidence.

But I would disagree with the words "micro evolution" as this gives the impression that some kind of evolution is going on and really that is not true.
For example scientists sometimes use the "micro evolution" of dogs to make a case for "macro evolution" when really the changes they refer to actually refute evolution. For ex. yes dogs change to some extent as do all life forms.
But, as with all life forms, these changes are within limits always.

For thousands of years, somewhat analogous to speeded up "evolution" per some folks' minds, dogs have been adapted, changed. Ditto cows, tulips, flowers, bees, fish, etc. etc. But the so called micro evolution doesn't lead to macro evolution. It doesn't lead to any evolution at all. All those dogs are still dogs. 200 species of bees are still bees. Countless changes and species of fish in the ocean are still fish, and so on. /The finches' beaks change alright, but there is zip evidence they ever have been, or ever will be turning into, anything but finches. in fact recent studies show that the beak changes reverse with the right climactic changes.

We knew about those kinds of changes, we knew animals could speciate, long before Darwin (who had only a degree in theology and never used the scientific method in his life, and who never showed the origin of anything, just gave some armchair theories which he showed doubt over himself), but no one was calling it "evolution." I personally don't call it any kind of evolution, just "Change over time, within strict limits."

 

[Harry3142]

TimeIsNotMuch-

www.theologywebsite.com/etext/egypt/creation.shtml

The creation stories of Genesis (there are two different stories: Genesis 1:1-2:3 & Genesis 2:4-25) were not written as a scientific observation. Instead, they were written as a rebuttal and demythologization of a much earlier creation epic, namely, the egyptian creation epic. The people for whom Genesis was written had been in Egypt for many years, and while there had learned this creation epic as a factual account of how the earth and all that is in it had been created.

But note that in this earlier creation epic the surface of the planet was a deity, the sun and moon were deities, the heavens were a deity, and even the atmosphere was a deity. As well, the egyptian religion taught that all of the species of animals that the people saw around them were actually representations of deities, either singly (such as Horus) or with two or more combined (such as Isis and Osiris).

The first creation story of Genesis (Genesis 1:1-2:3) methodically 'stripped' this pantheon of gods and goddesses of their divinity. The surface of the earth and its atmosphere were merely two parts of the makeup of the planet, and nothing more. The sun, moon and stars were merely objects in the heavens which provided light to the people, and nothing more. And the other species of animals that inhabited this planet alongside the people were merely other species of animals, and nothing more. The only being that was to be seen as a true deity was both invisible and over-and-above all that he had created. For this reason he could never be painted on a tomb wall or sculpted into an idol. He also could not be confined to a certain place either on the surface of the planet or in the heavens, since even though he had created all that existed, he himself was not confined to the area in which his creation had taken place.

The purpose of the second creation story of Genesis (Genesis 2:4-25) was to set man apart from the other species of animals. In the egyptian creation epic man had simply been created along with the other species of animals on the last day of creation, and then 'dumped' here (that's why Egypt's royalty claimed that they were the descendants of deities, and so had the right to rule over the 'common people'). Genesis 2:4-25 taught that mankind had been given the authority to rule over the other species of animals. Man (the correct translation of the Hebrew word 'adam') had been given the right to name all of the other species. Man alone could converse with God, and have God converse with him. Man was given a certain place (The Garden of Eden) where he could live comfortably. Man even had a helpmate (Eve) who was formed in a unique manner.

Man also had the ability to deliberately disobey God. He could continue to live in innocence, as the other species of animals live yet today. Or he could attain the knowledge of good and evil, and thus lose his innocence forever. Man chose the latter, and so is truly unique in his recognition of certain acts as being good, while other acts he recognizes as evil.

When did this take place? Sometime far back in prehistory there came a point in time when man attained this ability. Moses himself used another egyptian story in order to illustrate when man's innocence ended and his troubles began. The serpent in the garden was originally named Sabau, and the deity who forced him to crawl on the ground was none other than Ra, the sun god. The incident is told as part of Ra's conquests in The Egyptian Book of the Dead, and is located in the first paragraph under the heading of a hymn to Ra (about 5 paragraphs from the beginning of the book):

Papyrus of Ani; Egyptian Book of the Dead [Budge]

Would the people have known the background to Moses' stories? Yes, they would have. The egyptian creation epic was required learning in Egypt, so the Hebrews would have known that epic as well as the native Egyptians knew it. And Ra's conquests were among the most famous of the myths of Egypt, so his battle against Sebau the serpent-fiend would have been known throughout that nation. So they would have been able to get past the presentday arguing concerning the literalness of those stories that occurs today, and instead would have understood (and taken to heart) the real message contained within the stories.

God bless-

 

[TheyCallMeDavid]

Thanks for all the good quotes. There are so, so many of those where evolutionists are really admitting their theory is not based on evidence.

But I would disagree with the words "micro evolution" as this gives the impression that some kind of evolution is going on and really that is not true.
For example scientists sometimes use the "micro evolution" of dogs to make a case for "macro evolution" when really the changes they refer to actually refute evolution. For ex. yes dogs change to some extent as do all life forms.
But, as with all life forms, these changes are within limits always.

For thousands of years, somewhat analogous to speeded up "evolution" per some folks' minds, dogs have been adapted, changed. Ditto cows, tulips, flowers, bees, fish, etc. etc. But the so called micro evolution doesn't lead to macro evolution. It doesn't lead to any evolution at all. All those dogs are still dogs. 200 species of bees are still bees. Countless changes and species of fish in the ocean are still fish, and so on. /The finches' beaks change alright, but there is zip evidence they ever have been, or ever will be turning into, anything but finches. in fact recent studies show that the beak changes reverse with the right climactic changes.

We knew about those kinds of changes, we knew animals could speciate, long before Darwin (who had only a degree in theology and never used the scientific method in his life, and who never showed the origin of anything, just gave some armchair theories which he showed doubt over himself), but no one was calling it "evolution." I personally don't call it any kind of evolution, just "Change over time, within strict limits."

I agree with your synopsis . Heres a prize example of a notable Evolutionist who gushes forth his apriori-philosophical commitment to atheism and how anything outside of that simply must not be considered ; so much for scientific objectivity :

Evolutionist Quote of the Week: Richard Lewontin

 

[dysert]

The creation stories of Genesis (there are two different stories: Genesis 1:1-2:3 & Genesis 2:4-25)...

I didn't get any further in your post than that. You are incorrect about the creation story -- there's only one. Gen. 1:1-2:3 gives an overview, and Gen. 2:4 & ff. provides detail about what happened on Day Six.

 

[LoricaLady]

I agree with your synopsis . Heres a prize example of a notable Evolutionist who gushes forth his apriori-philosophical commitment to atheism and how anything outside of that simply must not be considered ; so much for scientific objectivity :

Evolutionist Quote of the Week: Richard Lewontin

Thanks for leading me to that site. Interesting. In a vid I mentioned earlier, by Dr. Thomas Kindall, there is a clip from the quote you give. Neo Darwinists, when they hear quotes they don't like from evolutionists will holler "Quote mine!" By this they are trying to make the accusation that the quotes were misquotes, or at least were said out of context. Your quote, giving the whole thing as it was said, in context, is a perfect example of how opposite of true that is.

 

[LoricaLady]

Sorry, accidental double post.

 

[Inkachu]

Been a while
Hope everyone is well!

I am a Christian 19 year old girl with dreams and goals laying in the road ahead of me. Im strong in my faith and I wouldn't doubt the word of God for a moment!


A recent concern has crept upon me in my last year of High School. I have decided my future career I wish to pursue is Applied Science Human Nutrition. You need a certain amount of credits in certain subjects and some are compulsury. I have to study Biology Level 3 which includes a section about evolution. As a christian, this has worried me as to pursue my career I have to full on study the theory of evolution.. Anything I would learn I know is lies and that is the part I dread.. All I need is the credits and thats what I keep thinking. Could any Bible believing Christians please give me some advice about this , a part of me is hesitant but I kinda have to if I want to achieve a better life with a job I will be passionate about. For additional information I have studied Genesis recently with my Bible Correspondence and I believe firmly in the way the earth was created and how we were created. Evolution couldn't change my mind about that but am still needing constructed, straight forward advice.



Thank you in advance for any given advice,
God bless!


<3

Studying it doesn't mean you're professing a belief in it. I mean, I've studied various philosophies and religions and cultures that aren't a part of my personal make-up.

What might become an issue is if evolution is taught as fact rather than theory in your class(es). You'd be perfectly within your rights to respectfully petition the teacher, or the school itself, to present evolution as theory (which is what it is) and to consider presenting creation as an alternative theory.

 

[tturt]

TINM, you just study the materials and answer the questions and know that's not how you believe in your heart.

 

[TheyCallMeDavid]

Thanks for leading me to that site. Interesting. In a vid I mentioned earlier, by Dr. Thomas Kindall, there is a clip from the quote you give. Neo Darwinists, when they hear quotes they don't like from evolutionists will holler "Quote mine!" By this they are trying to make the accusation that the quotes were misquotes, or at least were said out of context. Your quote, giving the whole thing as it was said, in context, is a perfect example of how opposite of true that is.

Neo-D's will shout anything in order to help 'justify' their affront to a personal Creator being real which therefore makes them #2 instead of #1 in Authority . God is such a fly in ones ointment when you don't want him around ; its an internal battle I had too back when I wanted to be an Atheist and live Freethinker lifestyle choices.

 

[Billy Bayou]

Firstly, It blows my mind that people who profess to be Christians and have the Holy Spirit living in them would state in any way that evolution was true.

God created man in His image and didn't do it using billions of years of gradual transformation.....He made man... then, from his rib, He made woman.

Secondly, when I was in school they taught both creation and evolution as theories that had not been dis proven. Now they just teach evolution.

Just do what my kids did. Learn what you can about the lies the enemy is injecting into this world. Regurgitate it to the teacher to get your marks and study the true origin of this world so you can argue your point well in debate outside the classroom.

In my experience, you will never win or win over someone who has been deceived into the belief of evolution. Remember Romans 1:22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,...

More and more scientists are turning from the evolutionary theory as it takes more faith than creation. They don't however back creation as the explanation. They just understand that evolution is too far fetched.

If the God I believe in could not have created this universe exactly as described in Genesis...... He is not worthy of my worship. All of the bible is true as written ....or it is all lies.

I will not be swayed. God is the creator and Savior and I will live with Him forever.

 

[seashale76]

Studying it doesn't mean you're professing a belief in it. I mean, I've studied various philosophies and religions and cultures that aren't a part of my personal make-up.

What might become an issue is if evolution is taught as fact rather than theory in your class(es). You'd be perfectly within your rights to respectfully petition the teacher, or the school itself, to present evolution as theory (which is what it is) and to consider presenting creation as an alternative theory.

I agree with the bolded part.

I've yet to sit in a class where evolution wasn't presented as a theory. However, the thing about theories you need to keep in mind is that they are well-substantiated. You're not going to be able to sit through a microbiology class and/or lab and successfully argue with the professor that evolution doesn't exist. They could proceed to take you into a lab and show you how wrong you are.

Natural selection is part of evolution, as is mutation, and genetic drift- these things exist. One example that even fits within a 24-hour timeline: Bacterial evolution, in every sense of the word, occurs very rapidly. That's not even up for debate. It happens and it is observable.

Honestly though- unless you're planning on majoring in Anthropology- where you'll be taking courses such as Human Biological and Cultural Evolution- you're really not going to run into all of these issues that you think you are.

 

[dysert]

I agree with the bolded part.

I've yet to sit in a class where evolution wasn't presented as a theory. However, the thing about theories you need to keep in mind is that they are well-substantiated. You're not going to be able to sit through a microbiology class and/or lab and successfully argue with the professor that evolution doesn't exist. They could proceed to take you into a lab and show you how wrong you are.

Natural selection is part of evolution, as is mutation, and genetic drift- these things exist. One example that even fits within a 24-hour timeline: Bacterial evolution, in every sense of the word, occurs very rapidly. That's not even up for debate. It happens and it is observable.

Honestly though- unless you're planning on majoring in Anthropology- where you'll be taking courses such as Human Biological and Cultural Evolution- you're really not going to run into all of these issues that you think you are.

I find this interesting. How exactly would time in the lab show that evolution is true? And as for bacterial evolution, if you start with a bacterium and watch it evolve, what's the end result?