Charles Robert Darwin

[TLK Valentine]

Any sources?

Well, off the top of my head (I'm typing on my phone now) the Epic of Gilgamesh comes to mind... his lineage was described as 2/3 god and 1/3 man... you don't need to be a genealogist to know that's literally impossible... but it's an apt metaphor for his superhuman nature.

Seriously, you're asking if the Bible invented figurative language...

In every way.

Be a little more vague...

 

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The alpha and omega, in the more common Greek version

Read this:

I AM the Aleph and the Tav

 

[TLK Valentine]

Well, everything of creation came through His Word...so...yeah.

Revelation 22:16
"16“I,Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the bright Morning Star.”

Everything including Charles Robert Darwin, then...

 

[TLK Valentine]

Read this:

I AM the Aleph and the Tav

Ok... what's it got to do with Darwin?

 

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Well, off the top of my head (I'm typing on my phone now) the Epic of Gilgamesh comes to mind... his lineage was described as 2/3 god and 1/3 man... you don't need to be a genealogist to know that's literally impossible... but it's an apt metaphor for his superhuman nature.

Seriously, you're asking if the Bible invented figurative language...

Who said anything about "inventing"...I am inquiring about other ancient writings that employ similar figurative language. Thanks for that one...any others?

Be a little more vague...

The difference between a strong male Wildebeest and a sickly female or calf Wildebeest, is not obvious?

 

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Everything including Charles Robert Darwin, then...

I anticipated this response,which is why I bolded "of creation".

 

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Ok... what's it got to do with Darwin?

I don't know...devolution of language...?

 

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I anticipated this response,which is why I bolded "of creation".

*Oh you meant the man...sure he was created. Only the Creator knows if he will see ultimate corruption.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Who said anything about "inventing"...I am inquiring about other ancient writings that employ similar figurative language. Thanks for that one...any others?

How many do you want before you understand the Bible wasn't the first?

The difference between a strong male Wildebeest and a sickly female or calf Wildebeest, is not obvious?

Wildebeests aren't known for their altruism... but considering that 99% percent of is would rather step over the homeless man on the street than give him a quarter, who is?

 

[TLK Valentine]

I anticipated this response,which is why I bolded "of creation".

Darwin isn't a part of that creation? Are you? Am I?

 

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How many do you want before you understand the Bible wasn't the first?

How many are there? Wouldn't you agree that the Bible is the best though?

 

[TLK Valentine]

I don't know...devolution of language...?

Correct... you don't know. "Alpha" and "omega" (A to Z, if you care to modernize) are useful if we ignore figurative language.

Furthermore, the website (and the book it was designed to sell) work on the presumption that Revelation was written in Hebrew. It was not.

 

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Darwin isn't a part of that creation? Are you? Am I?

I am:

2 Corinthians 5:17
"17Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!"

Revelation 3:5
"5Like them,the one who is victorious will be dressed in white.And I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but I will confess his name before My Father and His angels."

Revelation 20:14-15
"14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire. 15And if anyone was found whose name was not written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

 

[TLK Valentine]

How many are there? Wouldn't you agree that the Bible is the best though?

The Bible is the most famous... if it were the best, it's readers would have no difficulty recognizing the figurative language.

As we both know, many of them have considerable difficulty recognizing or even acknowledging it... although granted, that's usually more a fault of the readers than the book itself.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I am:

2 Corinthians 5:17
"17Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!"

Revelation 3:5
"5Like them,the one who is victorious will be dressed in white.And I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but I will confess his name before My Father and His angels."

Revelation 20:14-15
"14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire. 15And if anyone was found whose name was not written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

And Darwin is not? How about me?

 

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The Bible is the most famous... if it were the best, it's readers would have no difficulty recognizing the figurative language.

As we both know, many of them have considerable difficulty recognizing or even acknowledging it... although granted, that's usually more a fault of the readers than the book itself.

Isn't that your job though? to elevate the Bible above and beyond any other writing on Earth?

 

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Correct... you don't know. "Alpha" and "omega" (A to Z, if you care to modernize) are useful if we ignore figurative language.

The Alphabet is useful...where did it come from...an alphabetical primordial soup?

Furthermore, the website (and the book it was designed to sell) work on the presumption that Revelation was written in Hebrew. It was not.

Debatable. Who wrote it?

Revelation 19
"1After this I heard a sound like the roar of a great multitude in heaven, shouting: “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God! 2For His judgments are true and just. He has judged the great prostitute who corrupted the earth with her immorality. He has avenged the blood of His servants that was poured out by her hand.” 3And a second time they called out: “Hallelujah! Her smoke ascends forever and ever.” 4And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who sits on the throne, saying: “Amen, Hallelujah!” (emphasis mine)

Can you spot the Hebrew?

 

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And Darwin is not? How about me?

You don't know the answer to that?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Isn't that your job though? to elevate the Bible above and beyond any other writing on Earth?

No, as a Believer, it's yours. Your failure to do so doesn't put any pressure on me.

 

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The Alphabet is useful...where did it come from...an alphabetical primordial soup?

A proto-Sinatic, Semitic form of writing developed in Egypt sometime between 1800 and 1900 BC.

Debatable. Who wrote it?

Well, assuming it was the same John who wrote the Gospel... which was in Aramaic, translated to Greek...

Revelation 19
"1After this I heard a sound like the roar of a great multitude in heaven, shouting: “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God! 2For His judgments are true and just. He has judged the great prostitute who corrupted the earth with her immorality. He has avenged the blood of His servants that was poured out by her hand.” 3And a second time they called out: “Hallelujah! Her smoke ascends forever and ever.” 4And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who sits on the throne, saying: “Amen, Hallelujah!” (emphasis mine)

Can you spot the Hebrew?

Oy vay! Your idea has a certain Je ne sais quoi, but it lacks a certain machismo that would make any attempt to take it seriously totally meshuggeneh.

Can you count the number of languages I obviously speak?