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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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Baggy paints of the variety they we are reffering do indeed show poor taste and I am certain it would more than anger my parents if I showed up for dinner one evening dressed in such fashion. So its a sign of poor taste..perhaps even bad breading..but its not something that should be made illegal. There should be no "national dress code". That would be something you would expect in Iran or something the Telaban might conjure up ...but this United States of America. Here you have God given rights to make a rediculous fool of yourself any way you choose!
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I'd rather the public legislated fashion by kicking the crap out of people with sagging pants. Really, the whole ghetto look just annoys me when I walk around downtown. Why, oh why, has life led me to live in southern California...
What probably gets me worse than the pants is the hat all turned to the side, usually with the sticker still on the bill.
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I'm sure the full quote has already been posted, I haven't read the whole thread, but the error of the OP needs to be highlighted again.
"Obama: Here is my attitude: I think people passing a law against people wearing sagging pants is a waste of time. We should be focused on creating jobs, improving our schools, health care, dealing with the war in Iraq, and anybody, any public official, that is worrying about sagging pants probably needs to spend some time focusing on real problems out there. Having said that, brothers should pull up their pants. You are walking by your mother, your grandmother, your underwear is showing. What's wrong with that? Come on. There are some issues that we face, that you don't have to pass a law, but that doesn't mean folks can't have some sense and some respect for other people and, you know, some people might not want to see your underwear I'm one of them."
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Yes, the slippery slope syndrome is in full effect in this thread. The lazy, those too lazy to spend two seconds to get Obama's actual opinion on baggy pants, are to only get lazier. It's all down hill.
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Perhaps the world is getting worse.
When one looks at a boy who has baggy pants, and cannot understand that the origin of that was getting hand me downs because the family was poor, and says, "Come back when you can dress appropriately," we have lost our compassion.
When the world looks at a style of dress, such a baggy pants, and thinks that is the worst of our problems, while thinking nothing of things such as 1.4 million Americans being uninsured, or seeing poverty in a country that has so much that they are often wasteful (go to a buffet sometime and watch how much food is simply thrown away), then the world has lost its priorities.
When the world is upset by a president who doesn't have a problem with baggy pants, but has no problem with a president who went into an unjust war with a country that has never been proven to be tied to Al-Quada, lied about WMD, has gone from a surplus under Clinton to teetering on Recession, and maybe even a Depression under one of the worst presidents I have ever seen, then yeah, the world has declined.
And when one looks at the 50s, a time when Little Rock Nine - 9 black kids bravely going into a white school and needing to be protected by the National Guard, or the Birmingham protests, peaceful people attacked by guard dogs and powerful fire hoses, or segregated drinking fountains, and even churches, and think the world has declined, then yes, maybe it has, because they long to go back to a world of injustice, segregation, to have an incompetent president lead the country into ruin, continue to kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens for a war that is more about oil and greed than freedom, and ignore a president that has repeatedly been caught in lies.
And for what? Baggy pants.
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World is getting worse because of.. baggy pants? It's just change that you don't feel like you're a part of and therefor, reject.
Why do the most trivial matters get the biggest highlights?
Why do the most trivial matters get the biggest highlights?
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When I do see them, I usually have the urge to pull them down lol. I doubt that would go over well.
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Well the fact is, I don't agree with the OP's manufacture outrage over such a thing, and I have no issue with communities legislating against them, but young black men do not need to wear things that add to the negative image perception. Note not that only black kids wear baggy pants but that is again the perception.
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Regardless, disagreement with it does not constitute acting with legislature on it.
If you have a negative perception of a whole group of people, the burden of changing that perception rests with you. It's more than likely that a negative perception is brought about by some sort of generalized stereotype.
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I have no issue with communities legislating against it.
I do. Why would there be legislature against it? It's not offensive. Certainly, it's different and not the norm but sagging pants are a form of fashion. When there are certain body parts that start showing, then there is a problem but, it has not gotten anywhere near that point. The cases where you can.. see things... are usually just bad cases of 'crack'
and someone just needs to let them know
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