Challenge Thread: Were you wrong about Pluto?

[AV1611VET]

Your posts show you have an obsession with Pluto being demoted, plain and simple.

And what's your obsession? evolution?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And what's your obsession? evolution?

We're not here to talk about me. This is all about you and your obsession with Pluto.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

It wasn't "ill-defined" in 1930, was it?

Yes. It's never been well-defined until the IAU defined it.

 

[Larniavc]

Because Pluto is the best example I can think of, whose characteristics were universally accepted for 76 years, then changed.

But Pluto’s characteristics were not changed. Just what it is called. Pluto the celestial body is entirely unaffected by it’s category change.

I really cannot see why you think this is important.

 

[Larniavc]

And one of those characteristics was the "fact" that Pluto was considered our ninth planet.

It it was considered a planet. That is and always will be a fact.

But then that changed. It is no longer placed in the category of planet. That is also and forever a fact.

What is the significance for you?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

It wasn't "ill-defined" in 1930, was it?

You're right, it wasn't ill-defined. It wasn't defined at all in 1930.

 

[Phred]

They should have thought about that in 1930, before they put Tombaugh's Folly up in lights.

Should have thought about those saints before they unsainted them. Considering you claim to have divine guidance there's no excuse. Unless you don't really have divine guidance.

 

[AV1611VET]

But Pluto’s characteristics were not changed. Just what it is called. Pluto the celestial body is entirely unaffected by it’s category change.

I really cannot see why you think this is important.

Just asking:

Did the IAU get a kick-back from McGraw-Hill?

 

[AV1611VET]

Should have thought about those saints before they unsainted them. Considering you claim to have divine guidance there's no excuse. Unless you don't really have divine guidance.

Now you know one of the reasons that I'm an Independent Fundamental Baptist.

People can "unsaint" each other until the Rapture.

It means nothing to me.

 

[Phred]

Now you know one of the reasons that I'm an Independent Fundamental Baptist.

People can "unsaint" each other until the Rapture.

It means nothing to me.

Well now, either you're a Christian or you're not. According to the fine folks to created this forum you're not supposed to be telling others they're not. So excuse me if I don't much care what flavor of Christian you are. God is god. Either he is or he isn't. Either he guides you folks or he doesn't.

You still don't get this do you? See how little you care about these saints? That's how little most of us care about pluto. And exactly how relevant it is to any of us too. But you're still gonna keep harping on it so...

About those saints.

 

[AV1611VET]

About those saints.

We consider some people to be mission fields; and God calls us into those fields accordingly.

So please don't tell me "I don't care for those folks."

How many missionaries in the past have lost their lives at the hands of religious people?

 

[Phred]

We consider some people to be mission fields; and God calls us into those fields accordingly.

So please don't tell me "I don't care for those folks."

How many missionaries in the past have lost their lives at the hands of religious people?

Unsure. How many were in the World Trade Center?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

How many missionaries in the past have lost their lives at the hands of religious people?

Quite a few.

How many missionaries have taken the lives of religious people?

 

[Larniavc]

Just asking:

Did the IAU get a kick-back from McGraw-Hill?

No idea what that means. Can you elaborare?

 

[AV1611VET]

No idea what that means. Can you elaborare?

Sure.

In August of 2006, the International Astronomical Union downgraded Pluto to the status of dwarf planet.

This will, no doubt, result in science books everywhere having to be changed to reflect this.

I'm asking if the science book publishers worked in conjunction with the IAU to do this.

Say, for every 275.00 science book that sells in the college bookstore, the IAU gets 5.00 or something?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Sure.

In August of 2006, the International Astronomical Union downgraded Pluto to the status of dwarf planet.

This will, no doubt, result in science books everywhere having to be changed to reflect this.

I'm asking if the science book publishers worked in conjunction with the IAU to do this.

Say, for every 275.00 science book that sells in the college bookstore, the IAU gets 5.00 or something?

Obsession now with an added conspiracy theory too. Wow.

 

[sjastro]

This thread raises questions which have been researched by psychologists for decades.
Why more highly educated people are less into conspiracy theories
Low IQ and Conspiracy Theories: A Hand in Glove Relationship — GP and Writer

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

This thread raises questions which have been researched by psychologists for decades.
Why more highly educated people are less into conspiracy theories
Low IQ and Conspiracy Theories: A Hand in Glove Relationship — GP and Writer

Looks like it's less IQ per se, but more a question of education, which involves training in analytical thinking, something conspiracy theorists tend to be deficient in. I liked the paper referenced by the second article, on 'pseudo-profound BS':

"These results support the idea that some people are more receptive to this type of BS and that detecting it is not merely a matter of indiscriminate skepticism but rather a discernment of deceptive vagueness in otherwise impressive sounding claims. Our results also suggest that a bias toward accepting statements as true may be an important component of pseudo-profound BS receptivity."​

 

[Larniavc]

Sure.

In August of 2006, the International Astronomical Union downgraded Pluto to the status of dwarf planet.

This will, no doubt, result in science books everywhere having to be changed to reflect this.

I'm asking if the science book publishers worked in conjunction with the IAU to do this.

Say, for every 275.00 science book that sells in the college bookstore, the IAU gets 5.00 or something?

Of course they didn’t. That would be a the lamest of all grifts.

 

[AV1611VET]

Of course they didn’t. That would be a the lamest of all grifts.

It's not like they would advertise it.