Challenge for YECs: What are the roles of population and species in evolution?

[KWCrazy]

Which is of a course a giant load of horse doody as evidenced by the number of Christians that also accept the ToE.

Matthew7:22-23 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!

I notice that a number of evolution believers cite the fact that many who call themselves Christians believe in the lie. As Christ said, not all who call themselves Christians are saved. Some who are saved have no doubt been duped by the lies of evolution. What did Christ believe? Where do we read where He ever called the writings of Moses allegory or myth? If we go by Christ's words, He believed that the Scriptures were God breathed and that man must live by every word that comes from the mouth of God. If Jesus did not believe in evolution, then there is no basis for it in Christianity.

 

[Speedwell]

. What did Christ believe? Where do we read where He ever called the writings of Moses allegory or myth?

He didn't call them 100% accurate literal history, either.

If we go by Christ's words, He believed that the Scriptures were God breathed and that man must live by every word that comes from the mouth of God.

Very true.

 

[KWCrazy]

He didn't call them 100% accurate literal history, either.

John 5: 45-47 “But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

 

[Speedwell]

John 5: 45-47 “But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

That is also very true. But why should we believe that Moses employed a second-rate form of literature? Nothing in that passage tells us.

 

[AV1611VET]

That is also very true. But why should we believe that Moses employed a second-rate form of literature? Nothing in that passage tells us.

Maybe he should have used 15,000 deleted e-mails?

 

[pitabread]

To learn just how wrong you lot are about your
fairytales of evolution when Jesus returns in power and glory
is leaving it all too late.
Charles Darwin won't be able to save you.

You know when evangelicals have run out material when they simply resort to a threat in the end.

Also, *yawn*

 

[sfs]

Ive do e much research on evolution theory and to be trurhful its mostly just crap. Its a fairy tale for adults. If you want the complete truth do your own research from both sides of the coin. Study it for a few months atleast

I've done a heck of a lot more research on evolution than you have, and I find it to be a compelling explanation for a wide range of scientific data, data for which we have no other explanation.

 

[AV1611VET]

I've done a heck of a lot more research on evolution than you have, and I find it to be a compelling explanation for a wide range of scientific data,

All biological data ... right?

 

[sfs]

All biological data ... right?

If you take "biology" broadly enough to include paleontology, yes. It is a biological theory, after all.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you take "biology" broadly enough to include paleontology, yes. It is a biological theory, after all.

I immediately thought of this picture, when I read your 'wide range of scientific data.'

 

[sfs]

I immediately thought of this picture, when I read your 'wide range of scientific data.'

Yeah, I've seen that before. It's kind of silly, if you ask me. "Cosmic evolution is the study of . . ." is misleading, since there is no such field of study as "cosmic evolution". If you just talk about "evolution" or (as was the case here) "evolution theory", you're normally talking about biological evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yeah, I've seen that before. It's kind of silly, if you ask me. "Cosmic evolution is the study of . . ." is misleading, since there is no such field of study as "cosmic evolution". If you just talk about "evolution" or (as was the case here) "evolution theory", you're normally talking about biological evolution.

Then what did you mean by 'a wide range of scientific data'?

Are you talking biological data only?

Or planetary, chemical, stellar, etc. ... all compliments of evolution?

 

[Waggles]

You know when evangelicals have run out material when they simply resort to a threat in the end.
Also, *yawn*

That's because it is a waste of time to argue and debate fools.

 

[sfs]

Then what did you mean by 'a wide range of scientific data'?

Genetic data, morphological data, paleontological data, biogeographic data, (along with associated data from geology, climatology, and biochemistry), spanning millions of species. That's a wide range of data.

Are you talking biological data only?

Or planetary, chemical, stellar, etc. ... all compliments of evolution?

Biological data only.

 

[sfs]

That's because it is a waste of time to argue and debate fools.

Right -- you actually have a good argument, you just choose not to make it public.

 

[pitabread]

That's because it is a waste of time to argue and debate fools.

And now come the insults. You're a real testament to your faith.

 

[xianghua]

All biological data ... right?

actually all biological data fit with creation as well and a lot more then with evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

And now come the insults. You're a real testament to your faith.

Not an insult.

A warning.

Paul warned about embracing evolution, which would turn even Christians to atheists.

 

[Hammster]

ADMIN HAT ON


Okay, everyone’s got their shot in. Time to move on and get back on topic.


ADMIN HAT OFF

 

[pitabread]

Paul warned about embracing evolution, which would turn even Christians to atheists.

Except he didn't given that the Theory of Evolution wasn't a thing 2000 years ago.