Cessationists: how do you explain the following videos?

[TruthSeek3r]

I think we both know that NOTHING in the videos shows anything more than Physiological reactions to peer pressure, and NOTHING overtly miraculous at all. A Cessationist has no problem at all dismissing it all as "herd reaction to group suggestion". Nothing like the OVERT miraculous found in the Biblical accounts. Just folks having a good 'ol religious time with others so inclined.

"Explaining it" when you have personally decided that it's not "Real" is therefore no problem at all.

I have 4 counter-examples to the "peer pressure" hypothesis. I just posted them here: Discussion between Tony Mobbs and Spirit Realm Investigator | chat.stackexchange.com (it is an ongoing debate I'm having with a reputable member of Psychology & Neuroscience StackExchange).

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Every Pentecostal Charismatic Church Service I attended there was peer pressure to part of the in group. The peer pressure to be part of the in groups is part of every church I ever attended. For Baptists for example the behavior is baptism. Catholic Brethren, the Mass.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

I have 4 counter-examples to the "peer pressure" hypothesis. I just posted them here: Discussion between Tony Mobbs and Spirit Realm Investigator | chat.stackexchange.com (it is an ongoing debate I'm having with a reputable member of Psychology & Neuroscience StackExchange).

SO explain why the same stuff happens at "Rock Concerts" - shaking, fainting, involuntary physical movements, etc.

 

[TruthSeek3r]

SO explain why the same stuff happens at "Rock Concerts" - shaking, fainting, involuntary physical movements, etc.

Would you mind sharing live recordings of rock concerts in which people display reactions similar to the following: example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4, example 5, example 6, example 7?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Would you mind sharing live recordings of rock concerts in which people display reactions similar to the following: example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4, example 5, example 6, example 7?

I wouldn't bother.

 

[TruthSeek3r]

I wouldn't bother.

I did bother, for a while, and the best videos I could find were the following: A, B, C, D, E, F. These are examples of crazy fans in concerts. Unfortunately, the behaviors exhibited by these fans are not even close to the behaviors exhibited by people in religious settings, as in the 7 examples I shared before. If you know better examples from rock concerts, please feel free to share.

 

[tdidymas]

I did bother, for a while, and the best videos I could find were the following: A, B, C, D, E, F. These are examples of crazy fans in concerts. Unfortunately, the behaviors exhibited by these fans are not even close to the behaviors exhibited by people in religious settings, as in the 7 examples I shared before. If you know better examples from rock concerts, please feel free to share.

These videos you're sharing is a form of worship, and so are those of religious settings. It doesn't have to be religious in order for it to be worship. Different kinds of worship will exhibit different kinds of behavior, and such behavior will depend on what is the belief and what are the expectations of the group.

Is this mere speculation, or is this coming from my experience and observation? If what you want is an EEG chart explained by a research physician, then why are you in this forum? I don't think you're going to get that here.
TD

 

[Albion]

These are examples of crazy fans in concerts. Unfortunately, the behaviors exhibited by these fans are not even close to the behaviors exhibited by people in religious settings, as in the 7 examples I shared before.

Most are not, but several are similar, given that the rock concertgoers had the performer to focus their attention on, unlike the religious people shown swooning.

 

[Major1]

Sorry to tell you, but hypnosis is the 7th hypothesis proposed in this answer, and it is also dismissed. Nevertheless, I remain open-minded. If you know good reasons to show that "mass hypnosis" is the cause, I would deeply appreciate it if you post your explanation on Psychology & Neuroscience StackExchange and let others peer-review your answer.

videos of MASS hypnosis being used by faith healers - Bing video

 

[Major1]

I think we both know that NOTHING in the videos shows anything more than Physiological reactions to peer pressure, and NOTHING overtly miraculous at all. A Cessationist has no problem at all dismissing it all as "herd reaction to group suggestion". Nothing like the OVERT miraculous found in the Biblical accounts. Just folks having a good 'ol religious time with others so inclined.

"Explaining it" when you have personally decided that it's not "Real" is therefore no problem at all.

videos of MASS hypnosis being used by faith healers - Bing video

 

[TruthSeek3r]

videos of MASS hypnosis being used by faith healers - Bing video

1) I reviewed some of the videos you shared, and none of them shows examples of shaking or trembling. Can you point to a single video where someone shakes, trembles or convulses at the command of a hypnotist?

2) What about this: Have you ever felt overwhelmed with electricity, fire, heat or burning all over?

 

[Major1]

1) I reviewed some of the videos you shared, and none of them shows examples of shaking or trembling. Can you point to a single video where someone shakes, trembles or convulses at the command of a hypnotist?

2) What about this: Have you ever felt overwhelmed with electricity, fire, heat or burning all over?

https://youtu.be/YXVEwmzmnPQ