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If you would look up the definition of words, I wouldn't have to do it for you so that you'll understand.

"For Marx, socialism meant the social order which permits the return of man to himself, the identity between existence and essence, the overcoming of the separateness and antagonism between subject and object, the humanization of nature"

OK, which liberal candidates are calling for that (whatever it is)?
 
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All you'd have to do to educate me is give me some bit of evidence or reasoning which shows this is racist, which no one has been able to do. All I get is this prejudicial "I just know it" because she's white and he's apparently something else. I don't think you're being disingenuous, I think you're sincere. It's just amazing that you can't see the racial prejudice you're exhibiting in an attempt to manufacture some racial prejudice. The only evidence against her is her white skin. I really think you need to step back and examine your own psychology here.

And in all seriousness, you're also being a bit sexist. You and others have misused the Karen meme in this thread. Not every female who speaks up about something is a Karen.
“Karen” is not a meme used against females. It’s a meme used specifically against privileged racist white women. In the midst of all this BLM madness there have been several videos surfacing of unhinged white women harassing POC, like that woman calling the police on a black woman sitting on a park bench in a wealthy neighborhood, another woman screaming at a Native American woman to leave the country, another woman spewing violent threats at an Asian woman “suspiciously” working out at a park in all black, then later that day launching a series of racial remarks at another Asian person in a parking lot. In the past there was “Permit Patty” and “BBQ Becky” and the Starbucks manager who decided that a black man waiting for a guest was too criminal for his taste, or that Oakland man who called the cops on a black firefighter doing his job, or more recently, Ahmaud Arbery.

It’s not that Lisa is “just white”, it’s that there is an obvious privilege she felt like she had the right to exercise, which stems in large part from her race. You will rarely see people of color playing neighborhood watch on white people. I think you’re sincere too, but it’s amazing that you do not see the power imbalance in this situation. A white couple approaches a Filipino man writing “BLM” on his home, starts filming him, and then condescendingly questions his belonging.
 
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“Karen” is not a meme used against females. It’s a meme used specifically against privileged racist white women. In the midst of all this BLM madness there have been several videos surfacing of unhinged white women harassing POC, like that woman calling the police on a black woman sitting on a park bench in a wealthy neighborhood, another woman screaming at a Native American woman to leave the country, another woman spewing violent threats at an Asian woman “suspiciously” working out at a park in all black, then later that day launching a series of racial remarks at another Asian person in a parking lot. In the past there was “Permit Patty” and “BBQ Becky” and the Starbucks manager who decided that a black man waiting for a guest was too criminal for his taste, or that Oakland man who called the cops on a black firefighter doing his job, or more recently, Ahmaud Arbery.
I've heard "black people can't be racist" now "black women can't be Karens". :D Trust me, they can be mega-Karens. I've seen it in real life.
It’s not that Lisa is “just white”, it’s that there is an obvious privilege she felt like she had the right to exercise, which stems in large part from her race. You will rarely see people of color playing neighborhood watch on white people. I think you’re sincere too, but it’s amazing that you do not see the power imbalance in this situation. A white couple approaches a Filipino man writing “BLM” on his home, starts filming him, and then condescendingly questions his belonging.
Privilege has nothing to do with trying to stop what might be a crime. And "power imbalance"? I absolutely see the imbalance perfectly. With the click of a mouse the Alexander's are out-of-work pariahs while Mr. Juanillo sits back looking very powerful and pleased with himself for having caused it.
 
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I've heard "black people can't be racist" now "black women can't be Karens". :D Trust me, they can be mega-Karens. I've seen it in real life.

Privilege has nothing to do with trying to stop what might be a crime. And "power imbalance"? I absolutely see the imbalance perfectly. With the click of a mouse the Alexander's are out-of-work pariahs while Mr. Juanillo sits back looking very powerful and pleased with himself for having caused it.

"Karen" is not just any problematic woman, it's a stand in for white entitlement.

Juanillo caused nothing. If Lisa and her husband had just minded their own business they wouldn't be in this situation. They brought this on themselves.
 
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"Karen" is not just any problematic woman, it's a stand in for white entitlement.

Juanillo caused nothing. If Lisa and her husband had just minded their own business they wouldn't be in this situation. They brought this on themselves.
He caused everything, from the initial encounter, to setting them up, then posting it. And you blame the victims. Anyway the Karen concept is about attitude, is racially neutral, and can even apply to a man. But I'm not surprised you want to weaponize it against white people only. I appreciate your honesty in this thread, even though what you've revealed isn't pretty. You should probably quit before you reveal more.
 
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I'm seeing a lot of BLM posts lately and I can't help but wonder what it is that makes a black life worth more than any other.
It’s “BLM”, not “BLM more”.


It’s “black lives should matter more than the treatment we are receiving”, can you see it now?
 
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Yeah, personally that's a pet peeve of mine. The "News" forum is often rife with little non-news stories. Right now there's a thread about a lady crying over a sandwich or something. Maybe they should create a separate sub-forum. Maybe call it Worthless Internet Flotsam And Jetsam Which Is Of No Importance To Anyone But Allows Us To Virtue Signal And Express Some Self-Righteous Indignation.
The simple answer to the reason why this is considered "news" is because it is beneficial to an agenda that is being pushed. In this case, the agenda of the journalist is to encourage sympathy for the BLM movement by painting a picture that white people are racist. Given that the op is a BLM activist, it is understandable that she would share this article on a forum so more people would be sympathetic to her cause. Unfortunately, I believe Democrat politicians are encouraging these racial divisions for political reasons. It is sad because so many people are expecting tangible improvements for the black community only to find that the BLM movement will be kicked to the curb the day after the 2020 election because the Democratic party will have no further use of them. The same reason why the George Floyd/Trayvon Martin thing fizzled out.
 
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He caused everything, from the initial encounter, to setting them up, then posting it. And you blame the victims. Anyway the Karen concept is about attitude, is racially neutral, and can even apply to a man. But I'm not surprised you want to weaponize it against white people only. I appreciate your honesty in this thread, even though what you've revealed isn't pretty. You should probably quit before you reveal more.
I didn't make up "Karen", I'm just explaining how it's used. You are displaying your own prejudices by painting Juanillo as argumentative. Lisa and husband can exercise their privilege by questioning and recording Juanillo, but Juanillo can't exercise his privilege by questioning and recording Lisa and husband EVEN THOUGH the entire interaction began with Lisa and husband approaching Juanillo. You asked for an explanation. Don't be mad because a POC outsmarted two white people.
 
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Don't be mad because a POC outsmarted two white people.
Thank you! It's so rare that I win an argument on here. Just what I've been saying. This devious POC outsmarted two innocent, perhaps naive white people trying to do a good deed. I'm gonna have to print this page and have it framed.
 
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Thank you! It's so rare that I win an argument on here. Just what I've been saying. This devious POC outsmarted two innocent, perhaps naive white people trying to do a good deed. I'm gonna have to print this page and have it framed.
I love how we are calling ignorant racists "innocent and naive" now!
 
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It’s “BLM”, not “BLM more”.


It’s “black lives should matter more than the treatment we are receiving”, can you see it now?
I swear it's the same people who are trying to ban straws in order to "Save the Sea Turtles" who are vilifying BLM right now.
 
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He caused everything, from the initial encounter, to setting them up, then posting it. And you blame the victims. Anyway the Karen concept is about attitude, is racially neutral, and can even apply to a man. But I'm not surprised you want to weaponize it against white people only. I appreciate your honesty in this thread, even though what you've revealed isn't pretty. You should probably quit before you reveal more.
I’m sure for many people here, it’s you that’s looking bad on this thread.

You should take a poll. See how people feel.

If you care what anyone else thinks about you, of course...
 
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I’m sure for many people here, it’s you that’s looking bad on this thread.

You should take a poll. See how people feel.
Yes, the angry mob should decide everything. Vigilantes are always fair.
If you care what anyone else thinks about you, of course...
You obviously don't know me.
 
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Yes, the angry mob should decide everything. Vigilantes are always fair.

I used to work with a guy. He was a rude bully that absolutely no one in the office liked. When he was finally confronted by the entire office, he said something quite similar.

He didn’t last very long afterwards.

You obviously don't know me.

Like I said, if you care or not...
 
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I used to work with a guy. He was a rude bully that absolutely no one in the office liked. When he was finally confronted by the entire office, he said something quite similar.

He didn’t last very long afterwards.
Oh, I'm the bully? I'm the only one arguing my position in this thread. Everyone else is ganging up on me. I'm still here. But probably not much longer since it seems like everything to be said has been said.
 
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Funny, my co worker said that too. I don’t recall anyone being sympathetic then. But, every situation is different.
I don't think you know what the verb "bully" means. Tell me who the victims of my bullying are.
 
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