Celestial Marriage is a Commandment

[MattiMuck]

Well, I see you're only slightly familiar with Mormonism. They say there are no weddings in heaven. It has to be done on earth.

So, those that were married multiple times on earth will have multiple spouses in heaven? Or which wife will a man have and which husband will a woman have? That is the question asked in Matthew 22. Jesus answers that it is neither...there will be no marriage.

 

[guerrillajane]

It makes a difference to me because I have learned that your beliefs differ from those of lds.org. Oddly enough, I consider lds.org to be more reliable than yourself. I also know from experience here that some are better at communicating these beliefs than others and are able to convey these beliefs where others fail.

I have known ran for much longer than I have you and, even though we disagree on many issues, I respect his insights and views, especially when he backs them up with factual and verifiable sources.

That is the funniest thing I've ever heard! :o

There isn't a single belief of mine that differs from LDS.org.
I know perfectly what my Church teaches and what I believe.
Why don't you back that statement up?

 

[guerrillajane]

I'm seeing a lot of references to LDS specific texts. Do the words of Jesus apply to the LDS script?

Matthew 22:30 ESV

For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

Revelation from God cannot contradict each other.

1. Your quote speaks of the Resurrection, not Heaven. If Christ had meant Heaven he would have said it.

2. Either way, LDS perform marriages on earth, not in Heaven. We don't know what happens per-se in Heaven on that subject.

 

[Rescued One]

So, those that were married multiple times on earth will have multiple spouses in heaven? Or which wife will a man have and which husband will a woman have? That is the question asked in Matthew 22. Jesus answers that it is neither...there will be no marriage.

Only marriages performed in the temple by one with authority can be valid in heaven. But even that depends on the person's obedience to all the laws and ordinances of the [Mormon]gospel and being true to all covenants that the person entered into. A man can have more than one wife if he outlives the first one. A woman can be sealed to only one man.

 

[R150]

Only marriages performed in the temple by one with authority can be valid in heaven. But even that depends on the person's obedience to all the laws and ordinances of the [Mormon]gospel and being true to all covenants that the person entered into. A man can have more than one wife if he outlives the first one. A woman can be sealed to only one man.

I have a great great grandmother who was married 3 times and has been sealed to 2 of them. The family thought was always "she would choose which one"...? I never knew lds teaching about that..?

 

[joneysd]

So, those that were married multiple times on earth will have multiple spouses in heaven? Or which wife will a man have and which husband will a woman have? That is the question asked in Matthew 22. Jesus answers that it is neither...there will be no marriage.

you are quite right, the matthew quote was about marriage on earth and its effects in heaven and it was answered as you said there will be no marriage.

 

[bbbbbbb]

That is the funniest thing I've ever heard! :o

There isn't a single belief of mine that differs from LDS.org.
I know perfectly what my Church teaches and what I believe.
Why don't you back that statement up?

I am pleased to have amused you. However, the fact does remain that you posted on another thread that there are three forms of ordinances and that marriage is a lesser ordinance not required for salvation, did you not?

From LDS.org -

Ordinances

In the Church, an ordinance is a sacred, formal act performed by the authority of the priesthood. Some ordinances are essential to our exaltation. These ordinances are called saving ordinances. They include baptism, confirmation, ordination to the Melchizedek Priesthood (for men), the temple endowment, and the marriage sealing. With each of these ordinances, we enter into solemn covenants with the Lord.

Additional Information

Other ordinances, such as naming and blessing children, consecrating oil, and administering to the sick and afflicted, are also performed by priesthood authority. While they are not essential to our salvation, they are important for our comfort, guidance, and encouragement.
Ordinances and covenants help us remember who we are. They remind us of our duty to God. The Lord has provided them to help us come unto Him and receive eternal life. When we honor them, He strengthens us spiritually.

Do you or do you not agree with lds.org that marriage sealing is essential to our exaltation?

 

[drstevej]

I have a great great grandmother who was married 3 times and has been sealed to 2 of them. The family thought was always "she would choose which one"...? I never knew lds teaching about that..?

I think she is out of luck if neither calls her forward. Maybe the guys will flip a coin.

 

[Rescued One]

you are quite right, the matthew quote was about marriage on earth and its effects in heaven and it was answered as you said there will be no marriage.

My Bible says there will be no marrying.

 

[Ran77]

I have a great great grandmother who was married 3 times and has been sealed to 2 of them. The family thought was always "she would choose which one"...? I never knew lds teaching about that..?

I believe that is correct. The proxies are done, as far as I know, for all marriages and that way all the bases are covered so to speak. None of them would be binding unless both individuals accepted the ordinance.

 

[joneysd]

I seem to be struggling to get an answer to this problem.

Jesus did not marry in life, he certainly never went through any mormon temple marriage ceremony, Does this mean Jesus cannot be with God?

 

[R150]

I seem to be struggling to get an answer to this problem.

Jesus did not marry in life, he certainly never went through any mormon temple marriage ceremony, Does this mean Jesus cannot be with God?

LDS believe He hadn't revealed those things yet.

 

[joneysd]

LDS believe He hadn't revealed those things yet.

that's very odd because they made the rules about the marriage ceremony and they claim God gives them the instructions.

 

[R150]

that's very odd because they made the rules about the marriage ceremony and they claim God gives them the instructions.

Many, many of their beliefs and practices are to be found NOWHERE in the Bible.

 

[joneysd]

Many, many of their beliefs and practices are to be found NOWHERE in the Bible.

I have noticed that too but this is there own rule made from their own book that seems to exempt Jesus from heaven.

 

[bbbbbbb]

I have noticed that too but this is there own rule made from their own book that seems to exempt Jesus from heaven.

Both Jesus and the Hoiy Ghost are unique in Mormon theology. Neither one met the requirements for exaltation to godhood which apply to every other spirit child of God, but both were, and are, gods.

Why the exception? I have yet to get any answer from an LDS poster.

 

[Ran77]

Both Jesus and the Hoiy Ghost are unique in Mormon theology. Neither one met the requirements for exaltation to godhood which apply to every other spirit child of God, but both were, and are, gods.

Why the exception? I have yet to get any answer from an LDS poster.

I'm pretty sure I have given you an answer to this before. But it does provide a good example of what I have mentioned in regard to my discussions with you. Which is that even when I answer your questions, wether it be a few months or many months, the same topic comes out with claims that it hasn't been answered by any of the LDS.

So what's the point?

 

[Rescued One]

I'm pretty sure I have given you an answer to this before. But it does provide a good example of what I have mentioned in regard to my discussions with you. Which is that even when I answer your questions, wether it be a few months or many months, the same topic comes out with claims that it hasn't been answered by any of the LDS.

So what's the point?

It has to do with getting either no answer or a very vague answer.

 

[Ran77]

It has to do with getting either no answer or a very vague answer.

No it doesn't. It has to do with asking the same questions over and over again. Pretty much like how you post the same topics in new threads over and over again. And make the same false claims that are corrected over and over again.

Anyone interested in the supposedly vauge kind of answers I give they can check out the Outer Darkness thread and find out for themselves.

 

[bbbbbbb]

I'm pretty sure I have given you an answer to this before. But it does provide a good example of what I have mentioned in regard to my discussions with you. Which is that even when I answer your questions, wether it be a few months or many months, the same topic comes out with claims that it hasn't been answered by any of the LDS.

So what's the point?

For the benefit of the many new posters here on this forum it certainly would not be amiss to restate some of these things. For example, on another thread MormonFriend provided a very nice, succinct statement of his understanding of the core of the Mormon faith, which I greatly appreciated and I hope is also a benefit to others.

In this case I will ask a simple, direct question - Are Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit the only two exceptions to the Law which requires a spirit to pass through mortality in order to become a god?