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Depends on what you mean by "cavemen." The word doesn't refer to any one branch of human ancestry, but rather to a popular (mis)conception of early hominids.
If you're asking whether ape-to-human transitionals existed, then yes. If you're asking whether they wore cheetahskin togas and dragged cavewomen around by their hair, then no.
If you're asking whether ape-to-human transitionals existed, then yes. If you're asking whether they wore cheetahskin togas and dragged cavewomen around by their hair, then no.
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Yes, and according to creationists, they were quite musial
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/aprilfool.html
"Many of these items were discovered in the Neander valley of Germany where the very first Neandertal fossil was discovered in 1856. For instance a tuba, a musical instrument made from a mastodon tusk, what looks like a bagpipe made from a part of an animal bladder, a triangle, and a xylophone made from hollowed out bones." - Marvin Lubenow
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/aprilfool.html
"Many of these items were discovered in the Neander valley of Germany where the very first Neandertal fossil was discovered in 1856. For instance a tuba, a musical instrument made from a mastodon tusk, what looks like a bagpipe made from a part of an animal bladder, a triangle, and a xylophone made from hollowed out bones." - Marvin Lubenow
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Well, it's possible that many people after the disspersion at Babel lived in caves. So, I guess it woul be in the high B.C.s. Anybody have an estimated time?? I know I've heard it, but school slips right out during Summer.
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Chris Green said:
Wikipedia has a rather good (if oddly laid-out - I'd have put the modern era at the right side, but whatever) timeline of human evolution right here.
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shadowmage36
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It really depends on what you mean by "caveman."
As has been said, the standard pop-culture concept, which has already been mentioned, is patently false.
However, many early hominids, and especially the later ones, like Neandertals and Cro-magnon, probably did live in caves. Evidence of such has been found in Europe in various places, in the form of paintings and etchings on cave walls, stone tools and weapons, carved figurines, charred and chewed animal bones, and burial sites in ancient caves all across the continent.
As has been said, the standard pop-culture concept, which has already been mentioned, is patently false.
However, many early hominids, and especially the later ones, like Neandertals and Cro-magnon, probably did live in caves. Evidence of such has been found in Europe in various places, in the form of paintings and etchings on cave walls, stone tools and weapons, carved figurines, charred and chewed animal bones, and burial sites in ancient caves all across the continent.
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The definition of caveman also depends on whether otr not you believe in evolutio. But, lets not get into that. Too many scarey fights over that one.
(Cringes then runs away before anyone can yell. )
(Cringes then runs away before anyone can yell. )
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How about 'stone age' populations instead of cave men? Would that be a better term?
These kinds of societies have existed for hundreds of thousands of years.
These kinds of societies have existed for hundreds of thousands of years.
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shadowmage36
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How does the definition of "cave" depend on whether or not you believe in evolution?
(No hard feelings. It's early and I haven't had coffee yet.)
Heck, even with what I said earlier, you don't necessarily have to believe in evolution. You just need to believe that the evidence shows early man lived in caves, and that the evidence I've cited is valid. (As an aside, I do believe in evolution, but that doesn't need to figure in here.)
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language said:cave([FONT=verdana, sans-serif] P [/FONT]) Pronunciation Key (k
v)
n.
v. caved, cav·ing, caves
- A hollow or natural passage under or into the earth, especially one with an opening to the surface.
- A storage cellar, especially for wine.
v. tr.
v. intr.
- To dig or hollow out.
- To cause to collapse or fall in. Often used with in: The impact caved in the roof of the car.
{Middle English, from Old French, from Latin cava, from neuter pl. of cavus, hollow. See keu
- To fall in; collapse. Often used with in: The walls caved in during the earthquake.
- To give up all opposition; yield. Often used with in: The school committee caved in to the demands of parents.
- To explore caves.
- in Indo-European Roots.}
(No hard feelings. It's early and I haven't had coffee yet.)Heck, even with what I said earlier, you don't necessarily have to believe in evolution. You just need to believe that the evidence shows early man lived in caves, and that the evidence I've cited is valid. (As an aside, I do believe in evolution, but that doesn't need to figure in here.)
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shadowmage36 said:How does the definition of "cave" depend on whether or not you believe in evolution?
Heck, even with what I said earlier, you don't necessarily have to believe in evolution. You just need to believe that the evidence shows early man lived in caves, and that the evidence I've cited is valid. (As an aside, I do believe in evolution, but that doesn't need to figure in here.)
LOL!!! Sorry. I meant cave man
. I'm just saying you can either believe in evolution and think cave men were early stages of humans, or you can believe in a seven day creation and believe that cave men were the early humans that sought shelter in caves. That's what I meant by difference. I believe in creation, but I'm not here to offend anyone. They're just two ways of discribing a man who lives in a cave. Also, bepending on what you believe, the time periods in which they lived would be dirrerent. Thanx for the definition of cave though. I never said anything you said was wrong.
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Usually, the term, "caveman" is used to refer to Neanderthals, Cro-Magnon, or Homo sapiens of the Paleolithic era. So your answer would span from the first use of stone tools around 2 million years ago to the invention of agriculture.Chris Green said:
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Yes but God did not consider them men.Chris Green said:
God made man(test tube baby modern terminology) and woman(altered clone modern terminology) and put them on the earth long after the extinction of the animals we call cave"men"
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Carey said:
And you have evidence for this? Or is this just an assumption based on your desire for a 2000+ year old story to be true?
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No need to run away, there's no one yelling (yet). Care to elaborate on why the definition of "caveman" depends on evolution?Everloving said:
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