Catholics Becoming Protestant

[Dale]

He asked for evidence. I gave him evidence. I don’t know what else to tell you.

If you search through my posts on this site you will easily confirm that I have been no defender of the Catholic Church when it comes to abuse.

Right is right. Wrong is wrong. No matter who does it. Simple as that.

You missed the point that I made. In the RCC the top priority has always been to protect the priest.

Among evangelical Protestants the top priority is to protect the congregation and the public.

 

[PeaceB]

You missed the point that I made. In the RCC the top priority has always been to protect the priest.

Among evangelical Protestants the top priority is to protect the congregation and the public.

Hogwash.

 

[FireDragon76]

Mainline Protestants are morally opposed to evangelization and will be tentative even if you want them to convince you

My pastor says mainline Protestants and Lutherans are used to a culture of "nice", to the point that many are quite hesitant to discuss their faith openly. And many are older and used to evangelization being the task of the clergy.

Of course as a Lutheran I am completely opossed to proselytism and other manipulative techniques that some evangelicals use to market/sell the Gospel. But that doesn't mean we can't be more open in proclaiming our faith in appropriate ways.

 

[Mountainmike]

Watch the journey home and see the traffic protestant to catholic is large as well , just not advertised - many ministers and theologians included , and in that case always because study of the early church which is incompatible with being Protestant.

As Newman put it : to be "deep in history is to cease to be Protestant"

All the Catholics I know do read the bible. Are the ones who do not read it properly Catholic in other than name?

I occasionally see ex Catholics posting on forums, and am appalled about how little they knew of the church they left, and indeed why Catholics believe what they do.
It seems they were more interested in studying the anticatholic myth playbook , than studying the truth.

You quote a single example of a priest , I can quote hundreds of pastors of EVERY denomination, became catholic because of study of early church fathers.

"One out of every 10 Americans is an ex-Catholic. If they were a separate denomination, they would be the third-largest denomination in the United States, after Catholics and Baptists. One of three people who were raised Catholic no longer identifies as Catholic."

At least half of those leaving the Roman Catholic Church become Protestant. Why?

" ... the Catholic church has failed to deliver what people consider fundamental products of religion: spiritual sustenance and a good worship service."

So that's it! The Protestants have a better worship service. I'm not the only person who gets tired of the mumbo jumbo.

Are those who leave mere lukewarm Catholics?

"We are losing the best, not the worst." After all: "They are leaving to get spiritual nourishment from worship services and the Bible."

Here's part of the problem:
"Few Catholics read the Bible."

That helps to explain why Catholics leave the RCC, to join a church where people do read the Bible.

These quotes are from Father Thomas Reese, SJ, former editor of America, the Jesuit magazine.

Link:
The hidden exodus: Catholics becoming Protestants

 

[Radagast]

Watch the journey home and see the traffic protestant to catholic is large as well , just not advertised - many ministers and theologians included , and in that case always because study of the early church which is incompatible with being Protestant.

We don't need anecdotes when we have data. Here's the latest chart again. Very few protestants become Catholic, actually, and the ones that do are mostly mainline.

From the 2009 Pew report (the previous survey), here are common Catholic reasons for becoming evangelical:

• Spiritual needs not being met (78%)
• Found a religion they liked more (70%)
• Stopped believing in Catholicism (62%)
• Unhappy with teachings about the Bible (55%)
• Just gradually drifted away from Catholicism (54%)
• Dissatisfied with atmosphere at worship services (36%)

And common Catholic reasons for becoming mainline:

• Found a religion they liked more (69%)
• Spiritual needs not being met (57%)
• Just gradually drifted away from Catholicism (53%)
• Married someone from a different faith (44%)
  
• Dissatisfied with clergy at congregation (39%)
  
• Unhappy with teachings on abortion/homosexuality (31%)
• Unhappy with way Catholicism treated women (31%)
• Unhappy with teachings on divorce/remarriage (31%)
• Unhappy with rule that priests cannot marry (30%)

And common Catholic reasons for becoming unaffiliated:

• Just gradually drifted away from Catholicism (71%)
• Stopped believing in Catholicism (65%)
• Unhappy with teachings on abortion/homosexuality (56%)
• Unhappy with teachings on birth control (48%)
• Spiritual needs not being met (43%)
• Unhappy with way Catholicism treated women (39%)
• Unhappy with teachings on divorce/remarriage (33%)

 

[tulipbee]

The word Catholic means = "Universal".

then roman denomination shouldn't use that word

 

[Ancient of Days]

"Catholics Becoming Protestant" Say it isn't so!!

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

You missed the point that I made. In the RCC the top priority has always been to protect the priest.

Among evangelical Protestants the top priority is to protect the congregation and the public.

The second priority is gathering up the money for the pay-off

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

"Catholics Becoming Protestant" Say it isn't so!!

In all seriousness ,and with no disrespect intended,it’s the best news I ever heard

 

[ViaCrucis]

This isn't some unidirectional phenomenon. Even as many Catholics become Protestant, many Protestants become Catholic. The stream flows both ways.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

This isn't some unidirectional phenomenon. Even as many Catholics become Protestant, many Protestants become Catholic. The stream flows both ways.

-CryptoLutheran

J

Oh well,I felt good there for a little while....lol

 

[ViaCrucis]

J

Oh well,I felt good there for a little while....lol

I don't think it's fundamentally an issue. Sometimes salmon swim upstream, sometimes salmon swim downstream--salmon are still salmon. Christians are still Christians.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Radagast]

This isn't some unidirectional phenomenon. Even as many Catholics become Protestant, many Protestants become Catholic. The stream flows both ways.

True, but the flow from Catholic to Protestant is enormously larger than the flow from Protestant to Catholic -- see the colourful chart.

 

[Athanasius377]

Athanasius,
Welcome, since you are fairly new to CF. You must be familiar with church history to adopt a name like Athanasius.

Athanasius: "Vatican II has been a disaster for the Church. Church attendance collapsed and vocations to the priesthood evaporated."

It is my understanding that in our sex-soaked society, it is getting too hard to find anyone willing to take a vow of celibacy. On top of that, many of those who do don't abide by it.

I don't think all of the RCC's problems can be blamed on Vatican II.

Thanks, I do have a decent familiarity with church history. Its one of the topics I teach with regularity at my parish.

Athanasius,
Welcome, since you are fairly new to CF. You must be familiar with church history to adopt a name like Athanasius.

Athanasius: "Vatican II has been a disaster for the Church. Church attendance collapsed and vocations to the priesthood evaporated."

It is my understanding that in our sex-soaked society, it is getting too hard to find anyone willing to take a vow of celibacy. On top of that, many of those who do don't abide by it.

I don't think all of the RCC's problems can be blamed on Vatican II.

I don't think so either. I believe that the craziness that occurred in the "spirit" of VII left the church unable to respond effectively to the rising secularism and open hostility she is facing now. And that is just one of many issues facing the church.

 

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