Canabis ect.

[Andrea77]

Rome = Babylon? Sources please.

You will need to google them I can't post that sort of stuff here.

Sorry.

 

[Cerberus~]

The point is you have never seen an Atom but you believe in them.

I have never seen Jesus Christ but I believe in Him.

You have faith in something you have never seen, so do I.

As I tried to hint to you earlier, this is a flawed comparison. We can "see" atoms. We can test and measure and examine atoms. None of these things can be done to Jesus.

 

[Andrea77]

Ahh... so microscopes don't count?

If you can see an Atom with a microscope I will put a camel through the eye of a needle.

Obviously you do not now what a Atom is.

 

[Cerberus~]

If you can see an Atom with a microscope I will put a camel through the eye of a needle.

Obviously you do not now what a Atom is.

Obviously, you do not know what science is.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem99/chem99343.htm

 

[Andrea77]

Obviously, you do not know what science is.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem99/chem99343.htm

Do you believe everything you read?

http://education.jlab.org/qa/history_03.html

 

[In A Perfect World]

Do you believe everything you read?

http://education.jlab.org/qa/history_03.html

http://science.howstuffworks.com/atom9.htm
kthxbye.

 

[Doug45]

At any rate that is irrelevant. The question is whether using cannabis is a sin or not.
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Just a thought. Our word pharmacy comes from several Greek words in the NT which are translated as sorcery, sorcerer and the like. They refer to the use of mood altering drugs.

There is one instance that is translated in a posstive sense. The remaining half a dozen instances all refer to a sinful use.

Recreational use of cannabis falls into that category.

 

[Andrea77]

I wish I never started this thread.

I am away for a Joint bye.

 

[Lucasinvictus]

hahaha.. denying the existence of atoms?... lol... lay off the weed girl

 

[Andrea77]

hahaha.. denying the existence of atoms?... lol... lay off the weed girl

Hey! I know Atoms exist.

 

[e=mv^2]

Just a thought. Our word pharmacy comes from several Greek words in the NT which are translated as sorcery, sorcerer and the like. They refer to the use of mood altering drugs

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Wrong. A pharmacy is a place that you get drugs. The word does not refer to the use of drugs - it refers to the creation of drugs, potions, and poisons. All three. You need to think back to the time in which John wrote this. Were people taking asprin or were they visiting oracles for potions to help thier crops grow? If you are taking the position that drugs are a sin then you are saying that tylenol is a sin. Is it the drugs or is it the witch brewing a potion for the spirits? What is it that God dislikes? Relying on spirits to help a harvest or taking a pill to stop a headache?

There is one instance that is translated in a posstive sense. The remaining half a dozen instances all refer to a sinful use.

Source please. Again - the word in question, φαρμακευσιν,has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH USE. It refers to creation.

Recreational use of cannabis falls into that category.

Prove it. Are you calling Christ a liar? Are you saying that something from whithout can corrupt a man?

Point blank - Are you saying that eating cannabis is a sin?

There is absolutely no scripture whatsoever that refers to the USE of a drug. There is, however, scripture that:

Shows God blessing all seed bearing plants and herbs and saying that they are good.
Shows that nothing that is outside of your body can make you sin. That means eating and drinking.
Shows that we are not to judge any man by what they eat or drink.

 

[psychedelicist]

I wish I never started this thread.

I am away for a Joint bye.

Oh, how often that happens to me.

The wishing I didn't start a thread, not the smoking joints part... I'm more of a special brownies type of guy

 

[one love]

I dealt with this in the second part of my post. It is quite elementary to separate practices which violate rights and those that don't. A group of people smoking marijuana or taking peyote in a religious ceremony does not violate anyone's rights. Killing humans is not a valid analogy.

But so many religous practices are still illegal besides using cannabis: polygomay, nudism, etc...Why not stick up for all these religous practices made illegal? Fact is there are too many Christians who run the government to allow any heathen activity to go on. But I understand where you're getting at.

 

[one love]

Have you ever seen a Atom ?

I have on several occasions as have many people on this thread.

 

[Andrea77]

I have on several occasions as have many people on this thread.

http://education.jlab.org/qa/history_03.html

 

[Cerberus~]

Reaping sources that have allready been debunked isn't a good idea.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/atom9.htm

 

[Doug45]

e=mv^2,


pharmakeus, Greek 5332, Strong’s

pharmakeus,far-mak-yoos'; from pharmakon (a drug, i.e. spell-giving potion); a druggist (“pharmacist”) or poisoner, i.e. (by extension) a magician :- sorcerer.


The word pharmacy that we use to describe a place to go to purchase drugs is simply related to one who produces or dispenses drugs. I am sorry that you can't make the connection without my help. I mentioned that there were several Greek words that described the practice in the NT. Look at all three.


When Paul wrote to Thessalonians and John wrote the Revelation, you are absolutely correct, they didn't go to a store to get aspirin. I am also sorry that you cannot see the connection as a principle between the sorcery of 2000 years ago and the illicit drug trade of today. You are also correct in saying that these words refer to the drug, their compilation, and their dispensing. They do not refer to the use of drugs. What does refer to the use is the result. That of being under a 'spell' or not thinking clearly.Perhaps the cannabis has clouded your perceptions?

As for a posative application of the word, it is translated as lack in 1 Thes. 4:12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing.


Jesus was absolutely right. Cannabis will not corrupt you or defile you. The defilment comes from within as you have said. And I do not condemn you or judge you. I simply believe that the scripture connects mind altering drugs with sorcery and the demonic. If you don't believe that way, enjoy another brownie.


Doug

 

[Doug45]

BTW e=mv^2,

I use alcohol and do not feel condemned by God even though others might cast a negative shadow on it. I am constantly aware of the negative potential that it carries with it. But I am not on a crusade to get the acceptance of alcohol by all Christians.

Doug

 

[WhiteWolf76]

Yeah, well, the Bible calls eating shrimp an "abomination unto the Lord."

Where?

 

[WhiteWolf76]

e=mv^2,


pharmakeus, Greek 5332, Strong’s

pharmakeus,far-mak-yoos'; from pharmakon (a drug, i.e. spell-giving potion); a druggist (“pharmacist”) or poisoner, i.e. (by extension) a magician :- sorcerer.


The word pharmacy that we use to describe a place to go to purchase drugs is simply related to one who produces or dispenses drugs. I am sorry that you can't make the connection without my help. I mentioned that there were several Greek words that described the practice in the NT. Look at all three.


When Paul wrote to Thessalonians and John wrote the Revelation, you are absolutely correct, they didn't go to a store to get aspirin. I am also sorry that you cannot see the connection as a principle between the sorcery of 2000 years ago and the illicit drug trade of today. You are also correct in saying that these words refer to the drug, their compilation, and their dispensing. They do not refer to the use of drugs. What does refer to the use is the result. That of being under a 'spell' or not thinking clearly.Perhaps the cannabis has clouded your perceptions?

As for a posative application of the word, it is translated as lack in 1 Thes. 4:12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing.


Jesus was absolutely right. Cannabis will not corrupt you or defile you. The defilment comes from within as you have said. And I do not condemn you or judge you. I simply believe that the scripture connects mind altering drugs with sorcery and the demonic. If you don't believe that way, enjoy another brownie.


Doug

Yes, but it also says that we should obey the laws put in place by our rulers. In America pot is illegal and therefore a sin.