Can you interrupt "Evolution"? With the right "selection pressure"?

[SLP]

The question is "can you interrupt 'Evolution'?" - if so, how?
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Do you see what I am getting at here?

How do you know, when to interrupt Evolution? And when not?

Not at all certain what you mean by "interrupt." As evolution has no goal, how would one 'interrupt' a stochastic process? Allow me to use your preamble:

So this is basically a test of whether something is real or not. Something that is real, can be interrupted. Gravity causes a fall, but the fall can be interrupted;

Interrupted - as in you could catch what is falling? You could alter the progress (i.e., change the direction) of the falling object?

Does gravity stop acting on the object if you do those things?

electricity causes shock, but the shock can be interrupted.

Interrupted by... using insulation? Grounding?

If so, do those cause electricity to NOT have the ability to 'shock'?

Most laws, if the are genuine, follow this simple pattern.

Physical laws are simply observations that have no known (yet) exceptions.

Physical laws cannot be "interrupted," for then they would no longer be laws.

You seem to be confusing the impetus for, say, a falling object (gravity) with some 'planned
execution' of the effect of that impetus (e.g., this rock, when released, will fall down to the surface of the earth).

The processes that drive evolution will continue when "interrupted", but the trajectory will likely be altered.

Just like when you bump, but do not catch, a falling object - gravity is not "interrupted", but the trajectory of the falling object is changed.

 

[SLP]

It just dawned on me: with the right selection pressure, I could cause Evolutionists to forget Evolution...

Lol.

Imagine a world, where Evolution was "forgotten"! If the children refused to play, we would say "now... remember what happened to Evolution!".

And what would that selection pressure be? What would the actual effects be that produce a selective memory loss?

You've confused brainwashing with selection pressure.

 

[SLP]

Then what starts it again?

Gravity with mass, begins to fall again. Electricity in an unbalancing of charge, as lightning, strikes Earth again.

How do you propose to "interrupt" either of those?

 

[SLP]

Can the soul stop and start Evolution??

Once you have provided evidence sufficient to demonstrate the existence of such a thing, we can discuss its possible impact on things like mutation and selection.

 

[Gottservant]

I am just saying that as a law, starting and stopping are functions of execution.

As a law.

You seem willing to say "Gravity can be diverted, but not stopped", when if something reaches the ground, it does ("stop").

A figure of speech, for example, stops when people stop using it - this is different from saying "using figures of speech stops, when people die": the dying is not coequal with the expression, that dies in some contexts but not in others,, but is completely dependent on how willing someone is to use that particular figure of speech. Even in the afterlife, certain figures of speech can be used and others can not.

If I believe in Evolution, while I am in Heaven (in the afterlife): what happens then?

There is no progress that can be made by generalizing Evolution, in its current form; generalized Evolution validates something different to Evolution and is there for only valid itself, by different terms (at best).

I am ready to believe "targeted" Evolution, not "generalized" Evolution. The act of generalizing slows adaptation down, not speed up.

 

[Gottservant]

The more you claim greater and greater ranges of things which Evolution applies to, the less inclined I am to believe you will adapt something relevant to those things, as a rule (from then on).

I have never claimed to have something relevant to Evolution, that I then do not go on to adapt something for.

Do you? What about mutations? Do you pretend to know what they do??

 

[Kylie]

You seem willing to say "Gravity can be diverted, but not stopped", when if something reaches the ground, it does ("stop").

No it doesn't. An object may stop moving when it hits the ground, but gravity is still pulling on it. That's why it doesn't just float off into the air.

A figure of speech, for example, stops when people stop using it - this is different from saying "using figures of speech stops, when people die": the dying is not coequal with the expression, that dies in some contexts but not in others,, but is completely dependent on how willing someone is to use that particular figure of speech. Even in the afterlife, certain figures of speech can be used and others can not.

If I believe in Evolution, while I am in Heaven (in the afterlife): what happens then?

There is no progress that can be made by generalizing Evolution, in its current form; generalized Evolution validates something different to Evolution and is there for only valid itself, by different terms (at best).

I am ready to believe "targeted" Evolution, not "generalized" Evolution. The act of generalizing slows adaptation down, not speed up.

You really don't seem to have enough of an understanding about evolution or science to have a proper discussion about this topic. Your reasoning seems similar to the explanation of why firetrucks are red.

 

[Gottservant]

No it doesn't. An object may stop moving when it hits the ground, but gravity is still pulling on it. That's why it doesn't just float off into the air.



You really don't seem to have enough of an understanding about evolution or science to have a proper discussion about this topic. Your reasoning seems similar to the explanation of why firetrucks are red.

That's incorrect actually, if there is elastic potential in the object, the object will be suspended in mid-air, until the elastic is exhausted.

They did a test with a slow motion camera, on Mythbusters.

The whole world has seen evidence of mid air suspension.

 

[Gottservant]

What I am saying is: ***

Sorry.

The Lord has corrected me, about speaking to you, as if your behaviour should change for me - simply because I believe something, that I believe to be truer.

I will apologize again, at the end of the thread (at this time).

 

[Kylie]

That's incorrect actually, if there is elastic potential in the object, the object will be suspended in mid-air, until the elastic is exhausted.

They did a test with a slow motion camera, on Mythbusters.

The whole world has seen evidence of mid air suspension.

No. Gravity will ALWAYS be acting on it.

I suspect that you have misunderstood the concepts here. You need to learn the basics of science before you can have a discussion about them.

 

[SLP]

I am just saying that as a law, starting and stopping are functions of execution.

You can say that, but it lacks merit.

You seem willing to say "Gravity can be diverted, but not stopped", when if something reaches the ground, it does ("stop").

No, it does not.

Gravity does not stop or stop acting on the object once it is on the ground.

If it did, the object would just float away. Do you not understand that?

A figure of speech, for example, stops when people stop using it - this is different from saying "using figures of speech stops, when people die": the dying is not coequal with the expression, that dies in some contexts but not in others,, but is completely dependent on how willing someone is to use that particular figure of speech. Even in the afterlife, certain figures of speech can be used and others can not.

Are you really trying to equate a Scientific Law with the use of a figure of speech?

If I believe in Evolution, while I am in Heaven (in the afterlife): what happens then?

Evolution continues as a force of nature. But there is no heaven, so why worry?

There is no progress that can be made by generalizing Evolution, in its current form; generalized Evolution validates something different to Evolution and is there for only valid itself, by different terms (at best).

No idea what you mean.

I am ready to believe "targeted" Evolution, not "generalized" Evolution. The act of generalizing slows adaptation down, not speed up.

No idea what you mean.

Regardless, your OP fails.

 

[SLP]

What I am saying is: if you want to insist that I come from a monkey... stop generalizing about Evolution in my direction, THANKYOU.

Makes no sense.

 

[SLP]

That's incorrect actually, if there is elastic potential in the object, the object will be suspended in mid-air, until the elastic is exhausted.

They did a test with a slow motion camera, on Mythbusters.

The whole world has seen evidence of mid air suspension.

LOL!

Wow...

Can you link to that episode? I have a feeling you totally misinterpreted/misunderstood it.

 

[Gottservant]

Again, apologies.

The Lord has corrected me about speaking as if your belief should change for mine.

 

[Gottservant]

No. Gravity will ALWAYS be acting on it.

I suspect that you have misunderstood the concepts here. You need to learn the basics of science before you can have a discussion about them.

I have seen the power of elastic gravity, first hand.

There is nothing you will ever say, that will convince me that gravity can't be interrupted.

Gravity exhibits a quality of a law, that it can be interrupted - if you could do the same with Evolution, I would believe that too.

 

[Gottservant]

Gravity does not stop or stop acting on the object once it is on the ground.

No gravity runs out and something becomes motionless in connection with that gravity.

Here is the link of what happens to gravity, in mid-air.

LOL!

Wow...

Can you link to that episode? I have a feeling you totally misinterpreted/misunderstood it.

 

[Gottservant]

Maybe the right interpretation for you, is that interrupting Evolution is not as important as interrupting it consistently...

But if you interrupt it consistently, how are you going to know it is any different, from everything else we interrupt consistently?

See, how it just goes back and forth? I say "this is different" and you see "different? why? that was even more different (whatever "that" was)!"

If you properly explained how Evolution could be interrupted (as a law), you would be able to prove Evolution worked (in a specific context, for a specific reason).

 

[Gottservant]

Wait, are you saying there is no selection pressure that can interrupt Evolution, before it dies?

That means Evolution cannot learn to survive death??

 

[Bungle_Bear]

No gravity runs out and something becomes motionless in connection with that gravity.

Here is the link of what happens to gravity, in mid-air.

Simple explanation - the bungee is stretched and pulling the car up. When released, the bungee is still stretched and continues pulling up. It takes a while for the bungee to collapse enough for the upward pulling force to become less than the force of gravity. Once the force is lower the car starts to fall. Gravity was never interrupted.

 

[loveofourlord]

Wait, are you saying there is no selection pressure that can interrupt Evolution, before it dies?

That means Evolution cannot learn to survive death??

evolution requires procreation so....yeah kinda hard to survive the death of something that can no longer procreate.