Can you imagine if the wall wasn't there:

[yougottabekidding]

Yes, you did and that's what I asked for in my very first post in your thread. The thing is, I take any news from Fox News with a grain of salt and I always fact check whatever news Fox News reports.

I already supplied you with the information: Does repeating it help your position or add anything to the topic of the thread?

 

[Shiloh Raven]

I already supplied you with the information: Does repeating it help your position or add anything to the topic of the thread?

I was kindly responding and politely thanking you for providing the other sources.

 

[yougottabekidding]

I was kindly responding and politely thanking you for providing the other sources.

Once is enough - could you also kindly and politely respond to the topic of the thread now. Please and thank you.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Wait a minute! You were making out Fox to be so terrible, and now it turns out that MSNBC was worse than they were for 18 years, and are just now able to rise up over Fox?

It is kind of sad, isn't it? I mean, with the rating of inaccuracy for reporting credible stories that Fox News has (as the statistics I linked demonstrate) and yet it's still so popular among conservatives.

 

[Aldebaran]

It is kind of sad, isn't it? I mean, with the rating of inaccuracy for reporting credible stories that Fox News has (as the statistics I linked demonstrate) and yet it's still so popular among conservatives.

And now your statement can be applied to a growing number of liberals who are elevating MSNBC to a level slightly above Fox.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

And now your statement can be applied to a growing number of liberals who are elevating MSNBC to a level slightly above Fox.

True, but MSNBC doesn't have the same inaccuracy ratings for reporting the news as Fox News has. MSNBC's rating isn't as low of a rating as Fox News (Which cable news outfit lies the most?).

And now that we've hashed this out for awhile, let's get back to the OP.

 

[Always in His Presence]

It is kind of sad, isn't it? I mean, with the rating of inaccuracy for reporting credible stories that Fox News has (as the statistics I linked demonstrate) and yet it's still so popular among conservatives.

What on earth does that have to do with the topic of the thread?

He posted four other sources showing it happened. Why are you deflecting the topic to something else?

What would have happened if the wall wasn’t there, pretty simple, there would be 5,000 or more illegal aliens in the country.

They had no intention of entering legally.

 

[ViaCrucis]

And Jesus would be there welcoming them, healing them, ministering to their needs and feeding them..

The problem with Jesus is that He's a poor brown-skinned foreigner anyway, so American Christianity Inc. doesn't want anything to do with Him. So instead they worship their golden calves and call them "Jesus" to make it seem like they aren't the apostates that they really are.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[USincognito]

I am all for a wall. Not to keep out people who are in legitimate need. Not to make asylum impossible. Not to keep out Latinos. But for the sake of safety, order, and sanity. It is a good idea. Legal immigration is awesome. And some people truly do qualify for refugee / asylum status. But what is going on at the border now hurts everyone, including would-be migrants. A wall is needed. I am all for it.

How is the wall going to stop the half of all illegals who overstay their visas? How is the wall going to stop drugs being transported via ship, airplane, submarine, etc.?

 

[Shiloh Raven]

How is the wall going to stop the half of all illegals who overstay their visas? How is the wall going to stop drugs being transported via ship, airplane, submarine, etc.?

Or stop all the undocumented workers who are hired by U.S. companies, like the Trump Organization.

According to court documents, the Trump Organization has hired undocumented workers.

Video: Trump's history of hiring undocumented workers

Trump business empire shuns E-Verify, hires illegal immigrants

Donald Trump Paid $1.4 Million in a Dispute Over Undocumented Workers.

President Trump uses undocumented immigrant labor. Is anyone surprised?

What Donald Trump Knew About Undocumented Workers at His Signature Tower

President Trump Hired Undocumented Immigrants for $4 an Hour For Demolition Project: Court Docs

Sen. Sanders: 'Hypocrite' Trump rants against undocumented immigrants, but hires them at his properties

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The problem with Jesus is that He's a poor brown-skinned foreigner anyway, so American Christianity Inc. doesn't want anything to do with Him. So instead they worship their golden calves and call them "Jesus" to make it seem like they aren't the apostates that they really are.

-CryptoLutheran

Check out any word study / Bible Scripture about idolatry and what God always does about that.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

We are not Jesus (though we should be like him), and the US isn't a Christian nation. If we were Abortions would seldom if ever happen.

What. I hear we are a Christian nation. Sad, that people are supposed to be Conservative Christians are fighting the hardest to keep the poor out. I don't care what the government does. But I expect all Christians to care about people wanting a better life. Since Conservative Christians would flee from the poor area's . If they had too.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

What. I hear we are a Christian nation. Sad, that people are supposed to be Conservative Christians are fighting the hardest to keep the poor out. I don't care what the government does. But I expect all Christians to care about people wanting a better life. Since Conservative Christians would flee from the poor area's . If they had too.

Followers of Jesus, "Christians", born again, do not want to let more idolators in without restriction. That may be worse than letting terrorists in, if allowed willfully. (not good receiving God's curse (like in Balaam's idolatry - tricking the Israelites into sinning to be cursed by Yahweh)
by allowing destruction from the inside, in other words)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

But I expect all Christians to care about people wanting a better life. Since Conservative Christians would flee from the poor area's . If they had too.

? What ? Why would Christians who are told by Jesus to daily associate with the poor and destitute flee from the poor area's ?! That's just backwards from God's Word and Command, isn't it?

 

[Speedwell]

Followers of Jesus, "Christians", born again, do not want to let more idolators in without restriction. That may be worse than letting terrorists in, if allowed willfully. (not good receiving God's curse (like in Balaam's idolatry - tricking the Israelites into sinning to be cursed by Yahweh)
by allowing destruction from the inside, in other words)

They're mostly Roman Catholic--Christians, just like you and me.

 

[Spiritlight]

Why wasn't He in the country of origin helping them , ministering to them ?

Hopefully one day he will be and redistribute the prosperity the greedy West is hoarding for itself amongst everyone fairly..

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Hopefully one day he will be and redistribute the prosperity the greedy West is hoarding for itself amongst everyone fairly..

In the poorer countries ,
where some few people trust and rely on Yahweh and Jesus,
they are in His perfect care and nurture. Hard lives, yes, but with Him.
At peace with Him, doing what He Says, living His Way.

Not like when He says "WOE to you who are comfortable" in the usa....
plenty to look forward to that is not expected !

 

[Spiritlight]

We are not Jesus (though we should be like him), and the US isn't a Christian nation. If we were Abortions would seldom if ever happen.

And..
Gluttony
Greed
Idolatry
Divorce
Gambling
Drunkeness
Immorality
Killing
No graven images or likenesses
No covet your neighbours's house or wife

I have seen a lot about that stuff in the bible but dont hear much about it from churches anymore..

 

[jgarden]

Apparently conservative Christians have either failed to read the "The Greatest Commandment" n their Bibles OR have chosen to ignore it!

 

[rambot]

Correct. And those practicing idolatry He says to them first "Repent" THEN Come into My Kingdom.... NOT the other way around...

That's true! I remember that part of the Good Samaritan story.

And because it isn't heresy to compare to the US a nonchristisn nation, to God's glorious home?