Can you fall from being saved?

joyinhim said:

You mock and laugh all you want.

May God be with you.

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Godzchild said:

Also it is possible to walk away but I believer that 'true' believers come back.

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TreeOfLife said:

Phil 1:15-18
15 Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from good will: 16 The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; 17 but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.
NKJV

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joyinhim said:

The day of the Lord.

2 PETER 3:3-73 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

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I've seen Holo come under attack before and I've seen God's grace in his replies. With God, he seems to be handling these types of things fairly well.

I've been thinking of her new screenname as 'despairinhim' (notice him is not capitalized). I cannot imagine such darkness. We've got an inkling from other threads what has brought her to this place but I just cannot imagine how it got to this point.

Matthew 12
30"He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters.


I truly believe God is listening to our prayers here

Matthew 18
19"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. 20For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."​

While we may all be miles apart, I believe God can move mountains here and His love can be revealed. I know it's easy to become slightly irked or pestered by these posts, but if any of us are not already praying , we should be.

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Godzchild said:

Thank you for your kind words....I'm getting all choked up right now LOL

I love this family of God that we have!!

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TreeOfLife said:

I'm the blue guy.

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OreGal said:

well, now, how sexist is that...

I'll have you know she is blue and that she is me

But, I suppose if you want to be some female, blue smily, by all means

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TreeOfLife said:

Opps, did I say blue? I meant I am the orange guy. The orange one.

You know. Orange is a Manly man's color and all that!

Gosh darned fingers, I'm going to have to learn some typing skills!

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Godzchild said:

Actually I can't remember LOL Ummmmmmmm. Will have to look

Actually falling from grace is none of those things you mentioned. I didn't mention falling from grace at all actually. If you want to know how someone falls from grace, your best bet is to read Galatians 3. Here it talks about those who follow the law, and not having faith. It's not sinning...rather it's trying to not sin by following the law instead of having faith in Christ's finished work on the cross.



You know what? You're right! So what are you worried about? Number one, it's not your business to know who 'keeps sinning' and who doesn't. And Number two, when someone makes a mistake and makes the same mistake over and over, they could just be learning too right? I know when God was working on something in me, I would make the same mistake over and over and God would say "oops nope you haven't got it yet, Jane...you're almost there". I would hate it, if during my learning stage, if someone mere mortal kept pointing the finger at me and saying "you're not saved, you're not saved". Especially when I knew, that I was. That's why it's never good to judge others, you do not know what's going on in their hearts - God does though, and it's him that we are accountable to, not man. NEVER MAN! As soon as you 'try not to sin' to appease men...I believe you are in a lot of trouble! Been there, done that.



And never be allowed to stuff up? Joyinhim, if I was the judgemental type who walked around pointing my finger at people all day, I could say that you, yourself, are not walking as Jesus did. But lucky for you, I have more faith in that. I know you're saved joyinhim, but I also know that you make mistakes and I have grace for that. I dont' think badly of you...I just figure that you're learning something and that's ok by me

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OreGal said:

Now, now, we are firmly ensconced in the 21st century and, being a man of the times, wouldn't 'pink' be a nice color

If I put anything pink in my husband's closet, well, I'd better be wearing my running shoes. In fact, when I'm not around, he won't even dress our two-year-old daughter in the color. He puts her in her older brother's clothes and throws a baseball cap on her.

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aggie03 said:

In this post you have just stated that it is possible to fall from grace. I'm glad to hear that This means that the idea of "once saved always saved" is false.

I'll keep looking for the reference post, too.

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TreeOfLife said:

Falling from salvation is always possible to those who have climbed up another way.

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aggie03 said:

Would you mind explaining what you mean here in a more specific way?

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