minus208 said:I disagree because I was a Seventh Day Adventist before, you might not think it is by works but the system leads you to believe that salvation is by works.
This just isn't true at all. Maybe this was your experience, but there are people who have been SDAs all their life and they don't believe what you are saying here.
I rememeber "E.G.W" saying it herself that we need to do works to secure our Salvation in Patriarch's & Prophet's. I don't remember the page though, so, if the Adventist prophet said it herself that is what most Seventh Day Adventist believe except for a few that are battling against this teaching in this thread.
It's funny how you can remember the thought, as well as the book it is supposedly, but not the page reference.
If you are going to accuse someone of saying something at least show the decency to give a quote and page reference!
And by the way, I've read the book, and that thought is not in it.
It seems like the Adventist Church thinks that there the only ones saved because there views leads you to believe that salvation is only avalible to them.
It "seems" doesn't = that's the way it really is!
And no, we don't think this way.
Everyone else is lost although they have accepted Christ because they don't follow the Adventist doctorines and therefore not abiding in the truth.
Perhaps you should read Matt. 7:21
I believe God can enable us to overcome it through his Holy Spirit and perfect our character. Our nature to sin becomes dorment but we do not become sinless,
If one's character has been perfected in this way, how then could he not be sinless?
Does God hold you accountable for sins that you never committed?
all the scriptures you are seeing that you think support your view are in referance to the sinful nature that is why you have to go to the Greek language rather than clinging to a couple of scriptures and denying the others.
The proof is in the pudding. Now prove it.
And by the way, in case you missed it, I never said anyone could be saved by their works. You are reading something into my thoughts that I never said.
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