Can some people astral project and put curses on people?

[DennisTate]

These videos are quite impressive........
Some interesting research was done in the last fifty or sixty years on out of the body experiences.

Mr. John Ramirez stated that the students of Pastor David Wilkerson knew how to
cover themselves with prayer so that he could not mess with them!

This could be very useful information for many churches.


JOHN'S BIOGRAPHY

 

[DennisTate]

Here are more of his interviews:

Videos

 

[DennisTate]

Here is the pastor whose students Mr. John Ramirez says were immune to his attempts to curse them back when he was working for Satan.

 

[SkyWriting]

These videos are quite impressive........
Some interesting research was done in the last fifty or sixty years on out of the body experiences.

Mr. John Ramirez stated that the students of Pastor David Wilkerson knew how to
cover themselves with prayer so that he could not mess with them!

This could be very useful information for many churches.


JOHN'S BIOGRAPHY

Lack of oxygen is the usual culprit.

 

[DennisTate]

Lack of oxygen is the usual culprit.

I read a lot about out of the body experiences during the 1990's
so I take his claim very seriously.

One thing I can assure you of is that his sermons are very interesting indeed!

 

[DennisTate]

What John Ramirez teaches can transform our prayer lives..... and eventually...... our nations.

Armed and Dangerous with John Ramirez - Part 1

Marilyn Hickey Ministries

Marilyn and Sarah welcome special guest John Ramirez to discuss his new book Armed and Dangerous. Learn how to equip yourself with biblical weapons and practical strategies to battle the enemy successfully.

 

[DennisTate]

Lack of oxygen is the usual culprit.

Now I could be wrong but there are hints and clues in
Matthew 4
that has me wondering if several parts of the temptation of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus may perhaps have take place in the out of the body state??????

So perhaps long term fasting can also produce out of the body experiences.

I will bold the two sentences that sound like possible out of the body experiences to me.


Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he afterward hungered.

3 And the tempter came and said unto him, If thou art the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.

4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

5 Then the devil taketh him into the holy city; and he set him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and saith unto him, If thou art the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and, On their hands they shall bear thee up, Lest haply thou dash thy foot against a stone.

7 Jesus said unto him, Again it is written, Thou shalt not make trial of the Lord thy God.

8 Again, the devil taketh him unto an exceeding high mountain, and showeth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9 and he said unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

11 Then the devil leaveth him; and behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

 

[Basil the Great]

I do not believe that people have the power to put curses on someone.

 

[thecolorsblend]

I do not believe that people have the power to put curses on someone.

I do. Curses are very real.

 

[DennisTate]

I do. Curses are very real.

I think so too......

I think that the earthbound realm that Dr. George Ritchie saw in his 1943 near death experience goes a long way toward explaining witchcraft, curses, possession and strange things happening with an Ouija board.

Dr. George Ritchie's Near-Death Experience

His Guided Tour of the Earthbound Realm with Jesus

The following is the testimony of George Ritchie's tour of the Earthbound Realm: Then Jesus begins to take Ritchie on a journey through various realms of the afterlife. They fly toward a large city on Earth where they notice a group of assembly-line workers at work. They witnesses the spirit of a woman trying desperately to grab a cigarette from the workers who were oblivious to her presence. This woman had died severely addicted to cigarettes and was now cut off from the one thing she desperately desired most.



Ritchie realizes how the spirits in these realms immediately know the thoughts of other spirits around them. This is the reason they tend to group together with other spirits. It is too threatening to be around others who knew and disagreed with their thoughts.



Jesus leads Ritchie to a house somewhere on Earth where he is shown the spirit of a young man following his living family members around and begging them for forgiveness. But the family members are completely unaware of his presence. Jesus tells Ritchie the young man committed suicide and is "chained to every consequence of his act."



They then traveled to a bar somewhere on Earth which was filled with sailors drinking heavily. Spirits surrounded the sailors as they tried desperately, and in vain, to grasp the shot glasses to get a drink. Other spirits tried to control the sailors' alcoholic behavior. Ritchie learns these are the spirits of people who died still having a severe alcoholic addiction which went beyond the physical. He is bewildered as he observes one of the sailors passing out causing the sailor's protective aura surrounding him to crack open. When it does, it allows a spirit to scramble into the sailor's unconscious body. This scene was repeated over and over.

 

[DennisTate]

I do not believe that people have the power to put curses on someone.

If we know how to pray in faith.....
you would be correct....

... the problem is that we lack faith and the boldness to ask for a hedge of protection around our bodies, our homes, our churches and even our communities and around our nation.

Isaiah 54:17

No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

 

[SkyWriting]

Now I could be wrong but there are hints and clues in
Matthew 4
that has me wondering if several parts of the temptation of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus may perhaps have take place in the out of the body state??????

So perhaps long term fasting can also produce out of the body experiences.

Sure could.
and
How the U.S. Air Force Induced Out-Of-Body Experiences

 

[DennisTate]

Sure could.
and
How the U.S. Air Force Induced Out-Of-Body Experiences

True........ and what they have done is
proven that near death experiences can be studied in what amounts to a laboratory setting...... under controlled conditions.

Dr. James Winnery's Near-Death Experience Research

The Trigger of Extreme Gravity:
Dr. James Winnery's Near-Death Experience Research

The scientific method requires a phenomenon to be able to be reproducible under laboratory conditions for it to be declared a "real" phenomenon. In the early days, near-death experiences were thought by some to be just "phantom" visions and nothing more than imagination. But then Dr. James E. Whinnery, a chemistry professor with West Texas A&M, became involved with research involving fighter pilots being subjected to extreme gravitational forces in a giant centrifuge to simulate the extreme conditions that can occur during aerial combat maneuvering. Strangely enough, it turns out that under extreme g-forces, fighter pilots lose consciousness and have a near-death experience. Whinnery wrote a technical report for the National Institute for Discovery Science about the phenomenon and in doing so proved the near-death experience to be a real phenomenon. The following is a summary of his technical report of how NDEs are triggered by severe gravitational forces.

Listening to this right now:

REAL EXORCIST - Fr. Gary Thomas - UNCUT Interview Part#1

I sat with Fr. Gary Thomas who is arguably the best known exorcist in America. This video is a short segment of the unedited raw interview shot for a new documentary film called "Battling Darkness: Hollywood & the Rise of Exorcism". In this revealing documentary, leading voices from Hollywood and the Christian community, as well as psychologists and modern-day exorcists, discuss the mysteries of the demonic realm. Through a Biblical understanding and first-hand accounts, the film provides insights into the reality of spiritual warfare and offers keys to victory when you find yourself Battling Darkness. Prior to 1973, Satan seemed all but dead and gone, the casualty of a modernist mindset. But with Linda Blair's disturbing performance in The Exorcist, Satan returned with a vengeance. Since that landmark film, audiences worldwide have been fascinated with movies about demonic possession and the spirit realm. However, given Hollywood's tendency to take creative license, the question arises, "Is the visage of Satan now presented Biblical or distorted?" And more importantly, how have these images influenced society's consideration of both the demonic and spiritual warfare? Battling Darkness is a thought-provoking documentary that examines these questions with objectivity and insight from psychologists, modern-day exorcists and leading voices in Christianity.

 

[SkyWriting]

I read a lot about out of the body experiences during the 1990's
so I take his claim very seriously.

I learned how to do it myself.

Scientists induce out-of-body experiences in the laboratory
There is one part of your brain that orients "where" you are.
The reason for this is that your eyes invert everything you see.
So you see everything upside down. Then this part of your brain
reorients you to right side up, and left and right.

 

[Aussie Pete]

These videos are quite impressive........
Some interesting research was done in the last fifty or sixty years on out of the body experiences.

Mr. John Ramirez stated that the students of Pastor David Wilkerson knew how to
cover themselves with prayer so that he could not mess with them!

This could be very useful information for many churches.


JOHN'S BIOGRAPHY

Yes. It is possible. It's a tragedy that so few know that we really are in a war. That's partly why we have the armour of God, to protect us from Satan's attacks. Those attacks can be in initiated by those in the occult. Many missionaries know this well. I know a woman who "prayed" death on her husband. Yes, he died. I've had an out of body experience, just once. That was before I was born again. My take on it is that it is a false experience induced by a demon. (I had occult problems myself).
Out small fellowship weekly stands against what we call soul-prayer. (That is prayer directed directly at someone, not to our heavenly Father in Jesus' name) We also cover ourselves in the blood of Christ, and ask God to cause the Destroyer to pass over us.

 

[DennisTate]

Yes. It is possible. It's a tragedy that so few know that we really are in a war. That's partly why we have the armour of God, to protect us from Satan's attacks. Those attacks can be in initiated by those in the occult. Many missionaries know this well. I know a woman who "prayed" death on her husband. Yes, he died. I've had an out of body experience, just once. That was before I was born again. My take on it is that it is a false experience induced by a demon. (I had occult problems myself).
Out small fellowship weekly stands against what we call soul-prayer. (That is prayer directed directly at someone, not to our heavenly Father in Jesus' name) We also cover ourselves in the blood of Christ, and ask God to cause the Destroyer to pass over us.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I so thank you for this exceptionally insightful and I believe informative reply!!!!

Wow!!!!

 

[Rick Otto]

I do not believe that people have the power to put curses on someone.

Why not?
Doesn't it occur in scripture?

 

[DennisTate]

Why not?
Doesn't it occur in scripture?

Yes....... at least I am thinking that that is the implication of some of what happened with the Prophet Elisha not to mention 2 Corinthians 12
verses two to four.

 

[DennisTate]

This is really interesting... especially after the twenty three minute mark......

 

[Rick Otto]

WHAT?! I already replied to this, where's my post?

Dennis, I haven't gotten to the 23 min mark yet but this guy's testimony is already great, thanks.
Still checking it out...

... lol, wow. Good stuff. Thanks.