Can non-Trinitarians be saved?

[1an]

What happened to "Love is patient", or did you skip that bit. Your virtue is obviously slipping my friend.

But there's really no need to get all uppity, in reading your post my question was a entirely relevant.
Here is what you said.-


There you go, "People can and do backslide, from which there is no redemption"
The implication here is that others backslide, but you haven't because you are still here standing for Christ.
Backsliding is just a form of sinfulness and doesn't even appear in the various scriptural lists.
So to ask again, have you ever backslidden?
I ask because like most people, I have at times, but that never stopped my redemption because that was determined by Jesus not me.

And looking at your other point,

If you think you can live in the world, then you ain't a Saint
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If asked what was the most worldly church in the NT, most would probably point to Corinth.
Paul unmasks their worldly behaviour, fornication, drunkenness etc.
But look at his greetings to that worldly church.
1Cor1v2To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
As you can see, he still addresses them as saints and as sanctified. That's because , unlike in the Catholic church where it is bestowed decades after you die, sainthood comes on us when we are sanctified by the blood of the lamb, not by our works.

Not interested in internet arguments, goodbye.

 

[1an]

Why do babies die if not for sin?

Babies do not die of sin, goodbye.

 

[seeking.IAM]

Of course. I suspect the thieves next to Christ on the cross had no deep understanding of the Trinity yet they are with Him in Paradise. God will save whom God chooses to save.

 

[Francis Drake]

Not interested in internet arguments, goodbye.

It wasn't an internet argument, I simply asked a genuine question and you got upset because it exposed your stance.
Obviously not able to answer!

 

[Francis Drake]

Of course. I suspect the thieves next to Christ on the cross had no deep understanding of the Trinity yet they are with Him in Paradise. God will save whom God chooses to save.

Thieves.
Thief, yes.
Only one thief chose to humble himself before Jesus, and only one thief received the promise.

 

[1an]

Of course. I suspect the thieves next to Christ on the cross had no deep understanding of the Trinity yet they are with Him in Paradise. God will save whom God chooses to save.

Only a Trinitarian would believe in the Messiah's resurrection, ask to be remembered by Him, speak of His kingdom, and call Him Lord.

And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
(Luke 23:42-43 KJV)

 

[Dave L]

Babies do not die of sin, goodbye.

Romans 5 says they do.

 

[Saint Steven]

What we need to do is to follow Jesus all the days of our life.

What do you mean when you say this? Could you elaborate? Thanks.

 

[lismore]

Oneness Pentecostals, LDS, and JW are major non-Trinitarian groups. Are there other significant non-Trinitarians? Can non-Trinitarians be saved?

Hello. At the Baptism of Jesus, he was immersed in water, came up, the Holy Spirit descended like a dove and a voice came from heaven saying 'This is my Son in whom I am well pleased'. Does this not put non-Trinitarian views into the dustbin? God Bless

 

[ewq1938]

Only a Trinitarian would believe in the Messiah's resurrection, ask to be remembered by Him, speak of His kingdom, and call Him Lord.

There is nothing about any of that that would identify someone as a Trinitarian. I don't see how he could have had any understanding of the Trinity. I think only the disciples could have had such knowledge and they were with Christ his entire ministry.

 

[1an]

There is nothing about any of that that would identify someone as a Trinitarian. I don't see how he could have had any understanding of the Trinity. I think only the disciples could have had such knowledge and they were with Christ his entire ministry.

All the religions I can think of deny Jesus is God on earth. The best you will get, is that Jesus was a prophet. Notice the word 'Christian' and ask yourself who but a Trinitarian would say Jesus was Yahweh in the flesh, the visible image of the invisible God? Only a Trinitarian would say that.

Point being, the thief on the cross, who may have been among the thousands who followed Jesus and seen his miracles, knew exactly who Jesus was.

 

[hedrick]

All the religions I can think of deny Jesus is God on earth. The best you will get, is that Jesus was a prophet. Notice the word 'Christian' and ask yourself who but a Trinitarian would say Jesus was Yahweh in the flesh, the visible image of the invisible God? Only a Trinitarian would say that.

The statement quoted was "Only a Trinitarian would believe in the Messiah's resurrection, ask to be remembered by Him, speak of His kingdom, and call Him Lord."

The resurrection and calling Jesus Lord doesn't require the Trinity. There were several non-Trinitarian theologies in the early church, and they did those things.

 

[Saint Steven]

Only a Trinitarian would believe in the Messiah's resurrection, ask to be remembered by Him, speak of His kingdom, and call Him Lord.

And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
(Luke 23:42-43 KJV)

Trinitarian beliefs were not really established until the 4th century. (300 years later)

 

[1an]

The statement quoted was "Only a Trinitarian would believe in the Messiah's resurrection, ask to be remembered by Him, speak of His kingdom, and call Him Lord."

The resurrection and calling Jesus Lord doesn't require the Trinity. There were several non-Trinitarian theologies in the early church, and they did those things.

How would you describe someone who believes that Father, Son and Holy Spirit are One?

 

[hedrick]

How would you describe someone who believes that Father, Son and Holy Spirit are One?

monotheist

 

[1an]

Trinitarian beliefs were not really established until the 4th century. (300 years later)

That is when it was codified.

 

[1an]

monotheist

All the monotheists I speak to, mainly Jews and Jehovah Witnesses deny the divinity of Jesus.

 

[hedrick]

All the monotheists I speak to, mainly Jews and Jehovah Witnesses deny the divinity of Jesus.

Trinitarians are monotheists. The point I was trying to make is that historically (and today) there have been a number of descriptions of the relationship between Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and the human being Jesus. To my knowledge they all believe that there is one God. I believe all Christians consider themselves monotheists.

The Trinity is not the only theology that calls Jesus Lord or even Son of God.

 

[ewq1938]

All the religions I can think of deny Jesus is God on earth. The best you will get, is that Jesus was a prophet. Notice the word 'Christian' and ask yourself who but a Trinitarian would say Jesus was Yahweh in the flesh, the visible image of the invisible God? Only a Trinitarian would say that.

Point being, the thief on the cross, who may have been among the thousands who followed Jesus and seen his miracles, knew exactly who Jesus was.

I have searched but was unable to find any scripture that says one must understand that Jesus is God (God the Son) in order to be saved. All I could find is accepting him as Messiah and following his teachings etc. Understanding that God is three ie:" Father Son and HS is the correct view but it doesn't seem to appear to be required for salvation within those that follow Christ as the Messiah.

 

[1an]

Trinitarians are monotheists. The point I was trying to make is that historically (and today) there have been a number of descriptions of the relationship between Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and the human being Jesus. To my knowledge they all believe that there is one God. I believe all Christians consider themselves monotheists.

The Trinity is not the only theology that calls Jesus Lord or even Son of God.

Do you not think that the word Trinitarian describes someone with a particular set of beliefs?