Can marriage ever be a sin if both are Christian

[mikeforjesus]

I decided I will not seek to marry as I believe God gave me many talents perhaps to witness for Him that I perhaps must I see preachers I listen to such as will graham saying as follower of christ your priority should be Christ and not any things of this world being idols and even if I don't have to it is good I should if it helps witness and maybe God will use me and bless me for doing so to use me to help others.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I don’t think I should listen to Will Graham as I am not sure he would defend me to support me in difficulties as he may believe only Christian’s who accept that you need to put their trust in Christ to save them to know they are saved if they asked Him to save them if they accept Him Lord also if one was sincere so that one follows His direction as Lord are Christian that you need to to be born again so I will seek to marry if I find someone who I believe really seeks to follow Jesus and accepts me.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Actually I believe despite lack of support I should still not get married if I could witness better to not seem arrogant if it seems to give impression being married makes one better but to be content.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I think I should seek to get married as people look down on me that I could not succeed and try to make me feel odd to fight what I do they may see my life as negative if I don’t show that I have desires and to go after them. Also it is right and proper as some may seek to marry and I should encourage others to marry and people may think I am bad that I can not love and be responsible and I should show I can love to be good witness for Christ and it pleases God for His people to show they prosper to praise Him as caring for those who follow what is good.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Instead I decided not to marry for sake to witness to show what is most important not having things but having God and to not convey what is wrong that I think married people life has more value than single as if one failed if he thought that is right.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I will seek to marry as I don’t believe people actually would support me to look down on me as single they don’t respect my choice they believe I am so because I couldn’t get married and many Christian’s are not serious about loving those who preach different to them to make them seem like they will never have a purpose as Christian if they think one is not Christian if they don’t believe as them to put trust in Christ work alone to save one by faith in Him that you can know you are saved if you accept Him to trust in Him to save them if they ask Him to be their Lord and Saviour but some may think they need a church which says it was established by the apostles.

They may think they do not know to trust themselves to figure out church teaching but believe just as you need to do works if God shows you if you made Him Lord or you are disobedient now they need to stay trusting in church they were baptised into that he is not Lord if they don’t seek to keep the faith and they may not know it to understand all details of faith if everyone knows it yet believing works are important they need to seek to do but they don’t know details about others who don’t have chance to join church who are alive if works are important for them if all must be baptised as they may think you just need to seek to accept church or they may believe in baptism by desire but they believe there is risk that if you choose not to join church when you can you can die while not think to and it is not my job by my choices to think I can help many to accept jesus many could just look down on me. It is their responsibility to which God respects people free will their choice and I should not compare myself to others who can’t but if I have potential to do more I should

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided not to marry just to witness for Christ to show care for others the value of every soul to repent that all lives single and not single are just as valuable and to help show care to people who are far from God to help seek their repentance.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided I should get married as people don’t even care to respect if I am single they see that as self infliction for nothing as it does not help others as they don’t want someone suffering for them to be pitied as that insults them to judge one for one choices and they should not feel valued less as in heaven it does not even matter if you married not to be more important all people in heaven belong to God and marriage is good it is God will to ensure growth of Christian’s and some can so should and I should to encourage it and I would have partner to help me serve God to do more for kingdom the reward is not selfish but for salvation of souls.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Actually I should choose to carry that cross in addition to what I must carry for life as I do believe has value even if people make me feel like my suffering is for nothing I think I am wrong to do so can make people feel others do not care for souls but for what they get and I should be single to show care.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Actually I think people do not appreciate many just look down as one not successful like them and I should show them they are wrong to compare me to them but I should not make them think I am bad example if I do not try to so what I can as others can not as they have different circumstances but I should seek to increase my success according to potential as in parable of the Mina to show to others that I am doing best within my ability to make world better to have better witness

that is not to be saved but for reward that one chooses the parable of talents is things one already has that he knows he has to use at any time.

Also I should marry to support marriage as good thing to increase Christian’s and to be better example of Christian’s being fruitful so I think I should marry to have partner to have goals.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Still I think I should not let others behaviour affect me and better for me not to marry to show care I can try to do good without marrying without partner I don’t have to marry and I should not to show care others can marry if they want. It is good to have more Christian’s to do good but it is not necessary there will always be enough and God witnesses still when not many.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I will seek to marry as it gives chance to witness that God is for good I should not allow people to think their life of putting down one who follows good and prospering to say they are right is better but as person who loves good I should have things God meant for me. And all their supporters who reject me women who reject me and others are all bad and not having excuse for evil. And all counsellors who try to stop good from me are not having excuse and guilty before God. I should not stop myself from success I am meant to have for doing good to allow people to make me seem like perhaps it is self inflicted not to respect and it is as there should be reward for righteousness and not to shame and it is not good to lower myself for people to turn as people still may not respect to ignore and it their responsibility to turn they need to love God to turn.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided not to seek to marry to focus on witnessing to save souls as it is most important. Though I felt people may not respect to ignore that is not really my fault because of what I did but that is only because they are deceived to not know what is most important not my fault but my job to seek to convince.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided to seek to marry as it is better to marry as people take advantage to not respect when they see not doing anything but if I have partner I would have goals to do things. Not being married may not help witness as people don’t want to be influenced to consider changing because of a person lowering himself for them as if because of them one did not seek to do what may be good but seeing people happy and living fruitful life may be better witness so I will seek to marry. It is not up to me but it is other responsibility to be saved to turn to Him. God gave people free will to choose Him or not.

 

[Strong in Him]

What exactly are you hoping to learn from this thread, Mike?
You asked if marriage could ever be a sin if both were Christians: marriage is never a sin. It might be unwise in some cases, but it's not sinful and I'm not sure why you would think that it is.

For the last few pages, you've changed your mind daily, even sometimes within hours, about getting married - "Yes, I will, no, I won't" etc. But we don't even know if you have a girlfriend and have talked, and prayed, with her about it.
I don't know if you are seriously undecided, very anxious or just want to try to get it all sorted in your head first.
But marriage is not an academic debate, it is entering into a (hopefully) lifelong relationship with another person - and you HAVE to consider their feelings/views before you can make any decision. You might be much in love and keen to marry, but your girlfriend doesn't want commitment. Or you may have decided not to marry but then fall in love with someone who wants to get married; what then?

Or are you going to spend the next 5 years saying "yes I'll get married because of what other people say", or "no I won't get married, I'll go and preach the Gospel"?

 

[mikeforjesus]

I wanted to know if it is ever a sin to marry as long as both are Christian but I found that answered but I had to decide if I should marry I did not want to to serve God if that would help but I find people fight what I do to hinder what I do so I think it would better serve God if I got married. I would not be with girlfriend if she does not want commitment it would be evil for one to be with me not to be commited that is why I will marry and if she leaves she would be an adulterer and it would be unlawful for her to marry again if one does one could be punished and one should be ashamed to do so. If I fell in love with one and I did not think it was God will if I knew I would be more useful to God single I would still not marry but I think maybe I am not as useful single and if I do fall in love with one it seems it would be good to consider marriage. If I believed it could still be better for me not to marry I would keep considering it for however long if I think it might be but I don’t believe now it is.

 

[Strong in Him]

I wanted to know if it is ever a sin to marry as long as both are Christian but I found that answered but I had to decide if I should marry

Yes, but I'm saying that that's something that should be decided together with your girlfriend.
If you can't even talk about and decide that together, how are you going to deal with things, and make decisions, in your marriage?

I would not be with girlfriend if she does not want commitment it would be evil for one to be with me not to be commited

No, that's the wrong way round.
First you find someone, start a relationship, get to know them, find out if you have a future together and then both of you decide whether or not to get married.
If you took a girl on a date and said, "I want to get married and I can't be with you if you don't", she'll run a mile. She would need time to get to know you, as a person and Christian, before deciding that. You would need to talk about your ministries in any case - she might be called to preach; you might be against that. She might want to teach overseas; you might be assuming that she would stay at home and look after your children. She might not even want children.
Men and women can be in platonic, long term relationships without marrying - they might even go and marry someone else but want to keep you as a friend.

that is why I will marry and if she leaves she would be an adulterer and it is wrong for any to be with her.

Apart from all I have just said, a lot of clergy like to give marriage preparation, to make sure both partners fully understand what they are doing.
How do you think a Minister might react to being told, "I want to marry; if she doesn't and leaves me it will be her fault and she will be an adulterer"? Come to that, how do you think a woman might react to that?

I think maybe I am not as useful single and if I do fall in love with one it seems it would be good to consider marriage.

It may be.
But until, or unless, you fall in love, have a relationship and discuss marriage honestly with your girlfriend, you will never know.

Some people have no intention of getting married - then meet someone with whom they have a lot in common, fall in love and decide they want to be with this person. I have known Christian women very keen to have a husband and children, it hasn't happened for them and they've devoted themselves to being single. I've even known women who were single until they were in their late 50's and THEN married.

What I'm saying is that even if you were completely decided now, it might all change if you meet someone.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Ok Thankyou for your advice. But I wouldn’t be in a relationship with a woman if I did not make it clear that I do not want a relationship if it is not serious. To be commited because it should be on them not to decide to marry if they do not plan to make it serious if it will hurt me.

 

[Strong in Him]

Ok Thankyou for your advice. But I wouldn’t be in a relationship with a woman if I did not make it clear that I do not want a relationship if it is not serious. To be commited because it should be on them not to decide to marry if they do not plan to make it serious if it will hurt me.

Well it's probably unlikely you'll find someone to have a relationship with then.

If you were to say to someone on, or before, your first date, "you have to be committed to me or I'll be hurt, and if you won't marry me we can't have a relationship", it's very likely they'll say "goodbye then."
Unless someone can see into the future how could they possibly tell they wanted to commit to you without getting to know you? You'd be telling them, "unless you agree to marry me it's not worth getting to know you" - very unflattering and unromantic.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I did not say they have to marry but to date to see if they want a relationship to continue to seek to see if they think it should work. Dating should only be if one is interested with plan to marry if it can work to test to see if one is compatible. It can be as long as needed only to find out if compatible but if there is no reason to think one is not compatible it is wrong to be called off after long time if person did not find one incompatible if no reason is given and should not date for too long if there is no reason that you do not have reason to give reason to need to know more to know if compatible. Many people dated their spouse only for short period and knew they were compatible and married.