Can marriage ever be a sin if both are Christian

[mikeforjesus]

Actually I do want to live to serve God only to be single as I don’t know if will regret and if there is ever divorce for person leaving me it will be sin to remarry and I must not support sinful remarriages.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Actually I do want to marry but I have to listen to others advice because I would be blamed if it fails and chastened or punished by God because to hurt anothers chances to marry bible says to listen to teachers lest you are on verge of total ruin and say how I should have listened to my teachers for it is not right if can have chance now to have children I should seek.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Actually I will not seek to marry to show care to others though I wanted to because others take advantage to think themselves better because they are married and that others are losers

 

[mikeforjesus]

Actually I do prefer to marry that I don’t think necessary if possibly will not have children that God does not require that I should not hurt another as they may find it harder to find another for even older can seek to marry younger to have children.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I believe it is right though I hurt others not to encourage relationships that others do not approve of to consider potentially wrong for you spiritually so I had to cut as I also want children that would be good for me.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I dont think I will be happy married knowing others could not that it does not feel proper and would probably not please God as much to have wisdom to help others that I believe God wants me to pursue good for all and I don’t want to stumble them that if others marry I do not become envious that their joy is my joy and I want to be more free to be devoted to the Lord and not to have distraction if it could be risk that I may be able to pursue my salvation more seriously so I will not as the bible also says it will be said in last days blessed are the barren who never bore if I may be persecuted more easily in seeking to protect my children.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided instead I would seek to marry because I know people can end up being judgemental about my life to take advantage of my choice of life and to criticise later that I am not good in terms of following Christ to try to affect more if I am single and not have children or that because I didn’t make good choices I was not worthy and I think better to have children just not to let them.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided not to marry though others may seek to put me down incase such marriages are wrong if given more grace that it can risk to die before being married to have chance to repent and for sake of better of gospel to show care that I should not let others behaviour even if they seem to try to be more helpful to seem more correct to try to attack me and hurt others that I want to get back at them to put them down back but I should not let them affect me to do good and they are responsible before God for trying to hinder others salvation.

 

[John Helpher]

In the days of Noah marriage was a sin because sons of God married daughters of men that is the non spiritual people

When trying to interpret what any person says, it's helpful to consider the whole context of what they say. Jesus didn't only talk about marriage. Here's the full quote: "In the days of Noah and Lot they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day the flood and fire destroyed them.

The lesson here is that these people had become so busy with the cares of this world that they stopped caring about what God wanted. Let's say a young man makes a commitment to God, but then later finds a woman he likes and marries her, but in doing so he must go back on the commitment he made to God. Marriage is not the problem.

This is the difference between the law and spirit; the spirit allows you to be guided by the law in a way that can adapt to circumstances and context. For example, Jesus tells a parable about a master who prepares a party and sends servants out to invite the guests. One guest says he's just bought a piece of land so he's busy. Another says he's just been married, so he's busy. A third says he's just bought new farm animals so he's busy. Do you see the similarity?

Jesus even spells it out when explaining the parable of the sewer, look what happens to the seeds thrown into the weeds; they become "choked with the cares of this world."

 

[Aaron112]

"choked with the cares of this world."

Yes,
yet most people remain in denial (not the Nile valley)
when it is pointed out that shopping is most frequently sinful...... (i.e. for most all of the world desiring anything instead of the Creator's Way )

 

[John Helpher]

when it is pointed out that shopping is most frequently sinful...... (i.e. for most all of the world desiring anything instead of the Creator's Way )

I think this is why Jesus so frequently cautioned people to listen and consider. Discerning motives of the heart can be a little tricky, and even in those cases where it's obvious, it can still be difficult when the issues are about money and attachments. I think it's the normalcy of it all that really frightens people. Something as simple as buying and selling could be coming between you and God. It forces you to stop and examine even the most basic things, those things which are so implied and protected and cherished as to be untouchable even by God. I think in psychological vernacular this is called a secret contract. You've got the public facing commitment to go all the way, but actually there are some things that you won't do or you won't give up or some places you won't go. It's just unpleasant to think about these things so they get covered up under an outward pretense of goodness.

 

[mikeforjesus]

When trying to interpret what any person says, it's helpful to consider the whole context of what they say. Jesus didn't only talk about marriage. Here's the full quote: "In the days of Noah and Lot they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day the flood and fire destroyed them.

The lesson here is that these people had become so busy with the cares of this world that they stopped caring about what God wanted. Let's say a young man makes a commitment to God, but then later finds a woman he likes and marries her, but in doing so he must go back on the commitment he made to God. Marriage is not the problem.

This is the difference between the law and spirit; the spirit allows you to be guided by the law in a way that can adapt to circumstances and context. For example, Jesus tells a parable about a master who prepares a party and sends servants out to invite the guests. One guest says he's just bought a piece of land so he's busy. Another says he's just been married, so he's busy. A third says he's just bought new farm animals so he's busy. Do you see the similarity?

Jesus even spells it out when explaining the parable of the sewer, look what happens to the seeds thrown into the weeds; they become "choked with the cares of this world."

Is it ok then from what you said that according to spirit you can if you feel it is most better to marry later after you made commitment to God? Because what if one did marry he can not then divorce. It would be sin.

 

[mikeforjesus]

You made the connection between Christ speech about wedding invitation where one is saying he married a wife and can not come. Are you saying to attend he had to leave wife if he did marry when he was against God ? Or rather as Paul says if person is willing to live and allow children to be raised in Christ then need not divorce ?
for I believe person was making excuses why he can not accept faith because he fears losing his spouse but Paul says if unbeliever departs let them depart your love must be to Christ but not from your side to initiate divorce.

Also are you saying buying and selling is not wrong for certain needs and to make income but if you are buying and selling to waste what belongs to poor living too luxuriously when you have enough for needs is wrong?

 

[John Helpher]

Is it ok then from what you said that according to spirit you can if you feel it is most better to marry later after you made commitment to God?

Ideally, everyone would listen to God regarding marriage. We'd have not only sex education in school, but relationship education, too. Christian communities would solemnly warn their young people that feelings should not be the motivating factor when discerning who is a right partner. That guy you want to marry? He could become an alcoholic in three years. Are you sure you're willing to stay with him if that happens? That young lady you want so badly? In 5 years she'll get cancer which will drag you through years of financial hell even after it goes into remission.

If people understood that a solid relationship is more than just feelings, they'd probably start making better choices.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I do not believe it is right if one is alcoholic to divorce but should be separated but if that is case you should not marry but if he refuses to have children maybe I can not say he has denied the faith as Jesus says he who refuses to hear church consider him a heathen.

Marriage is said to be in sickness and in health so should be willing to pay but it is up to one choice if can afford.

 

[mikeforjesus]

With all respect to a great Pastor Jeff Schreve but I believe he is misguided that he wants to judge because he served all his life to judge unjustly that he seems to be saying person should seek to be missionary to risk to be a martyr if possible which I do agree is safest though not necessary but he is not and he seeks to judge people if they did not serve God preaching all their life or I may misunderstand that person just needs to do what one can now but makes that person is not worthy.

I don’t know how he wants one to lose his life to be considered a follower for I am told Jesus only meant to be willing to risk to lose family or friends who will be against your decision to follow Christ for bible says all can be saved he should accept just that person preaches to those in his path who he knows and preaches but it is not required to make that one must preach all time but when he feels is right but I think person should be ready to preach all time one can because of urgency but not in inappropriate time or when it is time to do other essential things.

This is why I want to get married to one I can have children with as I said before others if I am single will still seek to take advantage of state to say I am not following Christ for I see they disrespect me even without children and I could answer back as David says happy is he who has his quiver of children he shall speak with his enemies in the gate if I have children.

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[Stephen3141]

Your mention of marriage in the days of Noah, has nothing to do with the nature of marriage.
It has to do with the unconsciousness of the majority of people, that God's judgment was coming.

You could ask, is <any action> a sin, if both people involved are Christians?
And the same answer applies: if the Bible defines an action as a sin, then it is a sin
regardless of whether the people involved are Christians, or not.

 

[mikeforjesus]

That is true also but also involves nature I believe as in days of noah there were marriages that were sinful.

 

[mikeforjesus]

My community is judgemental who will not consider another if entered into another marriage if it fails even if you are innocent so I don’t seek to and most other Christian’s are judgemental of foreigners too. Most humans are evil on their way to hell if they don’t repent to accept faith and not hate or judge one they don’t have to accept one for marriage but they should be seeking to that if they die before seeking to do good to others will have less reward.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Though it could be that it is only wrong to date a Christian if they have been married before if no one ever commited adultery yet I feel it is also wrong to date someone if they were in serious relationship that they had plans to marry but didn’t and one of them left for no good reason.