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Can Intelligent Design be a Logical & Rational Answer?

joshua 1 9

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But we can judge you from what you post
You can not judge me from what I do not post. I do not post a lot of stuff because people love to try to set traps here and it is prudent to avoid them.
 
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There is an explanation for this, but I would break forum rules by providing it.
 
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All I have said is that you are wrong
Show me your evidence, show me what you have to prove me wrong. We know that Worldwide only 6.7 percent of the people have a college degree. The question is how much does the average college degree person know about evolution? You seem to have a lot of confidence in how well that 6.7 percent of the people are educated. I don't share your confidence because I know a small percent of college graduates have actually studied and read the Biology Book.

If you think so many people have read a book about evolution then why are there no books about evolution on the Science Book Best Selling list? The evidence is simply not there to support your claim. If so many people own a Biology book why do they rank so low in sales compared to other books? The math simply does not support your claim. Just like according to leading experts like Hoyle the mathematical numbers simply do not support the possibility of the random theory that evolutionary theory hangs on.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/science/best-selling-science-books.html?_r=0

Evolution is a bait and switch game. They claim that we have proof for common ancestor therefore the random mutation theory must be true. One theory has nothing to do with the other. You simply have truth and error mixed together. This was the situation with Abraham back in the ancient city of Ur. God called Abraham to come out from among them and to separate himself from their error. Today we are called to do the same as Abraham and draw a line in the sand and separate true Science from Fake Science. Just like we have to know the difference between News and Fake News. What is true and what is not true. After Abraham and the Chaldeans we have Moses. He was well Educated by the Egyptians. Moses was also called out to set a standard for the truth. Today we are called to take a stand for what is true and separate ourselves from the lies.

We need pillars to support a theory. Random mutations is a leading support for evolution and when you remove that support the theory comes crashing down because it lacks evidence to support it. Right now random mutations is the best they can come up with and the theory fails to get the job done. Even Francis Collins can not accept the random theory when he says: "While it may seem to us that this whole process has the risk of randomness and, therefore, an unpredictable outcome, that was not the case for God."
Read more at 'God Is Not Threatened by Our Scientific Adventures'

The Science of Evo Devo and people like Sean Carroll (author of "Endless Forms Most Beautiful") simply can not accept that evolution is a random process.
 
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There is an explanation for this, but I would break forum rules by providing it.
In the end everything will hinge on lawlessness.
Matthew 24:12
"Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold.
 
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They claim that we have proof for common ancestor therefore the random mutation theory must be true.
Since you are so well informed about the theory of evolution, you should have no trouble providing a source for that "claim."
 
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Since you are so well informed about the theory of evolution, you should have no trouble providing a source for that "claim."
The point is that the random theory is all they have to work with right now.
 
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Which seems adequate to the task.
Science works off of the best explanation that anyone can come up with. Even in the case of the random theory where that clearly is not the solution they have nothing better so that is what they go with. We have evidence and science does a wonderful job of gathering the evidence. The problem is when they feel entitled to make up stories in an attempt to explain the evidence.
 
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LOL
 
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Even in the case of the random theory where that clearly is not the solution they have nothing better so that is what they go with.
Assuming that by "random theory" you mean random variation and natural selection, then no, saying that it is clearly not the solution is not clear at all. Why do you think that the ID people have had so much trouble coming up with examples of biological structures which random variation and selection could not produce?
 
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You can not judge me from what I do not post. I do not post a lot of stuff because people love to try to set traps here and it is prudent to avoid them.

No, but I can judge you from what you DO POST, which is what I have been saying, and from what you do post, you do not come across as someone who knows more about evolution than 98% of people in the world.
 
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The fact that you feel the need to call it a 'bait and switch game' shows all we need to know, along with your claim that 'random' mutations fails to support the theory, since mutations DO support the theory of evolution.
 
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Gibberish.
 
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Gibberish.
You are correct, evolutionary science based on Darwinism is Gibberish, but Godless atheism has no choice but to buy into this nonsense because that is all they have to put on the table to offer people.
 
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No, but I can judge you from what you DO POST, which is what I have been saying, and from what you do post, you do not come across as someone who knows more about evolution than 98% of people in the world.
I am not here to promote evolution. I am here to promote creationism. I have know people with Phd's in Science yet they do not even have a third grader's understanding of the Bible.
 
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Assuming that by "random theory" you mean random variation and natural selection, then no, saying that it is clearly not the solution is not clear at all.
Exactly, thank you for making my point for me that the line between random theory and natural selection has been blurred so that people do not see a clear distinction. Truth and error has been mixed together and they do not make a clear distinction.
 
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You are correct, evolutionary science based on Darwinism is Gibberish, but Godless atheism has no choice but to buy into this nonsense because that is all they have to put on the table to offer people.

Ummm..."godless atheism"...??

As opposed to godful atheism, perhaps...?

And the only thing that atheism "offers" is disbelief in gods...it says nothing about evolution, or any other scientific theory that I am aware of.
 
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I am not here to promote evolution. I am here to promote creationism. I have know people with Phd's in Science yet they do not even have a third grader's understanding of the Bible.

You seem to know nothing about evolution. And since there is nothing to know about creationism, because it simply isn't supportable, that doesn't leave you knowing very much, does it...?
 
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I am not here to promote evolution. I am here to promote creationism. I have know people with Phd's in Science yet they do not even have a third grader's understanding of the Bible.

Dear god, try to stay on topic. You say that you know more about evolution than 98% of people in the world today, and yet all of your posts about evolution show that you don't.
 
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