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I'm not saying it's the majority of Christians, but at least some. For instance, I've seen a lot of Christians talk about Satan being referenced as falling in Isaiah 14:12-15, but if the chapter is actually read it mentions it was talking about a Babylonian king, not Satan at all. Any many say the serpent was Satan when there's no indication it was anything more than a serpent, except in Revelation which is not only symbolic, but it was written centuries lasted and almost wasn't in the Bible. In fact Satan wasn't seen as being anything except a kind of agent of God in Job, and Satan wasn't seen as "the father of lies" until the News Testament (while in the Old it seemed that God was in charge of both good and evil things happening).

It seems that most Christians don't know these things, and the ones that do start questioning.
 
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Regardless of what ANY one tells you, NO one, and I mean NO one (with one exception), goes to hell because of sinful deeds they commit. That notion is one of the biggest satan-led lies ever fomented and/or espoused. For if ANY one would go to hell for sinning; regardless of how abominable it may be (with only ONE exception); then we ALL will go to hell. You can take this to the bank dear person. And your check will NOT bounce either.

Follow along:

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

Read those verses again and notice Jesus used the word ALL. In verse 28 he gave NO exceptions. However that verse does NOT end with a period. That means there may be one or more exceptions. And there is ONE and ONLY one given and it is given in verse 29.

This means that on judgment day; EVERY person EVER conceived, WILL be given a 100% pardon for EVERY sin they have EVER committed; with ONE lone exception. And that exception is titled:

"Blaspheming against the Holy Ghost (Spirit)"

The problem is that few, if any, really KNOW(s) what that particular blasphemy entails. IE: there are myriads of ways to blaspheme God:

1. Using His name in vain. Remember "OH MY GOD" used in every day colloquialism speech, IS also taking His name in vain. So is "OH GOD" or just "GOD"; unless it is spoken in sincere reverence for Jesus (God manifest IN the flesh-1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was "manifest in the flesh", justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.)

2. Saying that Jesus was "only a prophet" as all true muslims do.

3. Saying that Jesus was NOT the Messiah as all of those who call themselves "jews" do.

4. Saying Jesus was not God.

5. Questioning ANY thing that Jesus does or says.

6. Saying there is "NO God"!

Etc, etc, and etc.

But..............there is one blasphemy that will NEVER be forgiven. EVER! It is titled above. So what is that single blasphemy that will NEVER be forgiven; and it sends ANY one to hell who committed it?

It is quite simple. For it s the ONLY sin ANY person can commit that only happens the moment they die. IE: Since we can be saved up to our dying breath (millions have been saved a moment before they died); no one can commit that sin IF they surrender to Jesus before they die at any age. Consider the thief on a cross that got saved. But.............IF a person dies (like the other one did) and they have not surrendered to Jesus; they WILL go to hell; because they have lost the chance forever the moment they die.

IN a word, "blaspheming against the Holy Spirit", is the ONLY sin that any one could ever commit that they have to die, for it to be a sin; since Jesus gives EVERY one until their dying breath to get saved. OH indeed yes. And Praise His Holy Name.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him will not perish, but have everlasting life. (He gave on exceptions)

Note the absolute word "everlasting" and the word "whosoever".

So you are NOT going to hell for committing an abominable sin dear person.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

But NO one will got to hell for engaging in homosexuality. Nor will anyone go to hell for ANY sin; EXCEPT the unforgivable sin explained above. Read Mark 3:28 and 29 again. Jesus did NOT lie! Disciples often did. Oh indeed yes.

Finally, and also; do not pay ANY attention to any one that tells you that homosexuality is a "learned" trait, UNLESS a person is just "copycatting" (there are a few of them). For a true homosexual IS born that way. Only a blind fool would not know that. But so is lying and stealing and coveting and gossiping and murdering (even in one's heart). Etc, and etc!

But like ALL other sinful desires, Jesus CAN and WILL remove the desire, but He alone can do that. NO person can do that on their own; because satan is too powerful for us. But Jesus can and has and will. We must ask Him however.

So what is the punishment for sin? ALL sins of the flesh are punished 7 fold while IN the flesh. The only spiritual sin we can commit (above) WILL send us to hell. THAT is what Jesus died for. For ALL other sins He paid for IN FULL.

So you are being punished for your abominable sins every time you commit homosexual acts 7 fold; UNLESS you flaunt it like MOST homo's do now; then you will be punished 70 fold! No "If's, No "And's" and No "But's".

Leviticus 26:28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise (punish) you seven times for your sins.

Note: I am NOT a homosexual; nor have I had ANY desires to engage in it. But I have a sin just as bad. I was born a "luster" for women. I am not bragging; just stating a terrible fact. I am going on 85 and it has cost me horrible punishments and pain untold, handed down EVERY time I do it.

I know this and begged Jesus to remove that horrible sinful "desire". And how He has helped me. Today I have VERY little; if any desire, to lust for a woman. Note: my mother was a born liar. Billions are also. This goes for almost every sin known. It comes out of the womb. Oh indeed it does.

The SAME can happen to you dear person. Try it! He CAN and WILL remove that demon in you. Promise. Sincerely believe IN Him and ask Him. It will happen. And remember..................

Numbers 14:18 The LORD is long-suffering, and of great mercy, forgiving* iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.

* The actual pardon for our sins occur on judgment day; even though Jesus paid the entire cost on the cross and IN the tomb. It took me over 75 yrs to understand and "see" this. Oh indeed yes. Pray about it.

In any case, may Jesus bless you and yours always.
 
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Hello.

John 3:16 I believe answers your question.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes on him should not perish, but have eternal life.

It says 'whosoever believes'. No exceptions. Anyone and everyone who believes has eternal life.

 
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Who cares what Baptist think. A lot of them are full of judgement and write articles against other ministers they don't agree with.

Your lust is no different than my lust for girls. I like girls, but that does not mean I go chasing after them or think about them all day.

A lot of gay people are in this boat, they want to serve God, but they have an attraction for the wrong sex. Somewhere they meditated on those thoughts far to long and it has become part of what they think they are.

It's no different than someone who wants to have sex with animals, or kids or many different people of the right sex. It's all based on the wrong things inside of them.

Good news is, the Word of God can change that. Putting scripture first has power to fix the lust and change the thinking. Just praying for mercy all the time is not going to cut it. It just means you acknowledge you believe being gay is wrong and just want Mercy to cover it over.

Nope, you want to think like God thinks, and for all of us that is a journey no matter the issues. Instead of asking Mercy ask for help and the right scriptures to meditate on.

Mike.
 
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Support and Resources for leaving Homosexuality - Living Hope

...the above address is a global network of non-practing homosexuals (if you care to describe it that way). Perhaps you would care to obtain a username/password for this particular site. I strongly recommend it. Creating a thread there would help you tremendously. When Jesus said "it is finished" he did not leave you or anybody else out. His arm is not too short to save. I was forgiven and saved in the mid-seventies (from SSA) and "HE and I have been working this thing out ever since. Vain is the help of man so don't even listen to anyone who cuts redemption, santification and gorgiveness short.

Doxology_The Works of John Owen Audio mp3s

...also, the above works of John Owen will aid you a great deal.
 
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I will check that out.
 
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Thank you for that information on the bottom.

I will check that out.
 
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God bless you too.
 
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Thank you

But to be quite frank, I don't know what you mean that Jesus rejected you when you asked him to marry you.

If you are a Christian you belong to the church, and the church belongs to Christ, right? Isn't the church the bride of Christ?
 
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You are loved and we ALL need to be saved and redeemed from sin! You are NOT alone and dont ever listen to anyone who says that you cant be saved. May YHWH bless and keep you
 
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Of course you are saved. Don't believe the lies that you are not. All you need to be saved is to give your heart to Jesus Christ. You are no different from any other sinner saved by grace. God bless you.

Thank you for your encouraging words.

I do question my salvation. It is because I do not diligently seek God. I do seek God a little, but I don't seek him as much as I made it sound in the op. But I do want to know him, but at the same time I am scared of the man God may transform me too.
 
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Anyone who calls on the saving name of Christ Jesus will be saved. But, you must realize what you are feeling. If it's a moral low, a "you know this is wrong" feeling that sounds like the Holy Spirit dealing with you. But speaking about searching for Jesus the Bible clearly tells us that the Father that sent Him must deal with your heart. You cannot just go seeking Jesus. I have a past of smoking marijuana, snorting cocaine and drinking more than a case of beer daily. When GOD got ahold of me that was removed from my heart and mind. Now, when a Christian reaches a new level in their walk with GOD we also experience a new level of Satan. He comes with everything we can imagine and then some. A brother or sister mentioned in a previous response about Jesus telling us to take His yolk upon us. I believe the burden is light only when we learn to sit back and sit quiet while he handles our everyday struggles and trials. Then praise His Holy name when it's finished!!!! GOD inhabits the praise of His people!!!!
 
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You are right, no one trumps the word of God. Thank you

Also thank you for the scriptures you provided.
 
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Joe, I noticed you erased some of your posts.

I did not mean to offend you in any way. But the post you chose to keep is really helpful, and I thank you for it.

God bless you, Joe.

I will no longer listen to Steve Anderson.
 
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That is true.

We can not tell God whom he gets to have mercy on or whom he doesn't. I am just hoping I am one of them.

And every night and I will pray for his mercy, and the grace to turn from my lusts.
 
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I will. That's good advice. I am failing in my trying.

God bless
 
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Who exactly is Pastor Steven Anderson? Since when was he authorized to dispense God's mercy?

You know, I have the same problem you do, except that I am a non-practicing pornography addict. I was addicted for decades. I hated my sin, I went to counseling and men's groups made specifically to deal with this sin.

About six years ago, I was delivered, but the stain and passions still remain within. I have a hard time looking at any woman with purity of mind, and I often go to Confession to confess and keep going in the battle. And that's what it is - a battle.

I wish I could give you a big brotherly hug and tell you that I am proud of your decision to fight against your sinful inclinations. We all have them, you know. Do not give up. If God could forgive St. Paul, who murdered Christians, if God could forgive so many of the saints in history, many of whom had very evil lives, if God could forgive even me (my full story would probably curl your hair!), then He can and will forgive you and He will be your Father and guide throughout this battle with your passions.
 
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