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Can Evolution and Creation Co-Exist?
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ShainaBrina
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The reason that creation and evolution can't co-exist is that long ages stuck in Gen 1 would mean that death and decay existed before the fall.
Trying to make it fit is simply an effort to accommodate the religion of science into Judeo-Christian beliefs.
Trying to make it fit is simply an effort to accommodate the religion of science into Judeo-Christian beliefs.
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Matthewj1985
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Most people I know take the creation story as well as the other stories that modern science clearly disproves as allegory. Creating an "either, or" dichotomy I think would make a whole heck of a lot of American Christians leave the church.
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HumbleServant94
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No it can't. Creation is truth from the Bible. It is used to glorify God. Evolution was made to disprove and seperate from religion. The theory of evolution was created to get rid of God. Besides, these two things can never go together. Whenever they do, it contradicts the bible and it contradicts the laws of science. Then again evolution can do that on its own.
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It's okay, really. Don't bother understanding before holding forth. It makes my job easier. Watch this:No it can't. Creation is truth from the Bible. It is used to glorify God. Evolution was made to disprove and seperate from religion. The theory of evolution was created to get rid of God. Besides, these two things can never go together. Whenever they do, it contradicts the bible and it contradicts the laws of science. Then again evolution can do that on its own.
*hand-wave*
See? Poof goes your total failure of an argument.
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Ah, isn't god responsible for death? After all, it was his decision to make death the punishment for A&Es' dining behavior. He could just as well have chosen something else. So if god is responsible for death then he is equally responsible for the viability of evolution.
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Matthewj1985
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No it can't. Creation is truth from the Bible. It is used to glorify God. Evolution was made to disprove and seperate from religion. The theory of evolution was created to get rid of God. Besides, these two things can never go together. Whenever they do, it contradicts the bible and it contradicts the laws of science. Then again evolution can do that on its own.
Have you ever set out to disprove God? Why do you think Darwin did? He was a Christian and he didn't "make" anything. He discovered why we have such a massive diversity of life on earth. If you buy into the "God of the gaps" theory evolution is perfectly compatible. On the other hand if you think everything in the bible literally happened then everything from microwave ovens to antibiotics have to be denied and chalked up to "magic" and they are "against God".
People much smarter than you and I have no problem with evolution and the Christian God.
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No it can't. Creation is truth from the Bible. It is used to glorify God. Evolution was made to disprove and seperate from religion. The theory of evolution was created to get rid of God. Besides, these two things can never go together. Whenever they do, it contradicts the bible and it contradicts the laws of science. Then again evolution can do that on its own.
To add to Mathew's answer:
If you've been told this: "Evolution was made to disprove and seperate from religion. The theory of evolution was created to get rid of God."
... then you were lied to.
Darwin, and others who were working on the same questions at that time and earlier, were for the most part theists. Darwin's atheism (or really, agnosticism) resulted most likely as a result of the death of his daughter, and his theory was never planned or intended as any kind of attempt to 'get rid of God'. In fact, a great concern of his was the hurt that his theory might cause his theist friends and family.
I doubt there is a scientist in the world who does biological/evolution related research who does so 'to disprove religion' or to 'get rid of God'. The fact that most people in the world, including most Christians, think evolution explains facts and predicts biological outcomes, which it does, is reason enough to pursue the subject and demonstrates that you are wrong.
Creationism, OTOH, is a really good method for destroying belief in God, since it so obviously contradicts geology, biology, paleontology, archaeology, and common sense. Theists who start out thinking of Genesis as allegorical are far less likely to lose their faith than theists who are creationists and then pursue an education.
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Creationist are the bin Ladens of the Christian world. Just like when an American Muslim hears someone say that all Muslims are terrorist, intelligent American Christians /facepalm at creationist. They are a small but vocal minority. Not to mention the fact that this guy is a runner up for the ugliest person on earth.
I mean what man grows hair right under his eyes?
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Creationist are the bin Ladens of the Christian world. Just like when an American Muslim hears someone say that all Muslims are terrorist, intelligent American Christians /facepalm at creationist. They are a small but vocal minority. Not to mention the fact that this guy is a runner up for the ugliest person on earth.
I mean what man grows hair right under his eyes?
More common than you'd think, that last, but most men, even bearded ones, shave it off. I knew someone (man around thirty years old) who had a very soft, fine haired black beard, and he had these long tufts growing on his cheekbones. Not a fashionable look....
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HumbleServant94
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1. People have different beliefs, including creationism. You shouldn't call people that unless they really deserve it. Not only is it wrong, it's unchristian.
2. The man, Ken Ham, is actually a very smart man who brings loads of evidence and some good points. You should not call him ugly, it's rude. Besides he's from Australia. It might be common over there to wear facial hair like that.
2. The man, Ken Ham, is actually a very smart man who brings loads of evidence and some good points. You should not call him ugly, it's rude. Besides he's from Australia. It might be common over there to wear facial hair like that.
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He's correct here, gentlemen. G-d lives in that place that transcends cause and effect.
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Creationist are the bin Ladens of the Christian world. Just like when an American Muslim hears someone say that all Muslims are terrorist, intelligent American Christians /facepalm at creationist. They are a small but vocal minority. Not to mention the fact that this guy is a runner up for the ugliest person on earth.
I mean what man grows hair right under his eyes?
I will kind of agree with you here, although saying a Creationist is also a Bin Laden is like totally uncouth.
You have learned well to acknowledge the fact that most Christians are also ID evolutionists.
The man in this picture technically is not ugly; as an artist, I am a subject-matter expert. His problem is severe acne scarring and a general lack of facial cellulose/fatty tissue. Rectify those issues and a radical transformation in his appearance would take place.
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