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can christians NOT be nudists

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So you're saying that being nude is a sin? I don't quite get that.

I'll be happy to go full birthday suit in my room for the next few days to test out that theory, though. If I get a face full of lightning, I will concede to your point.
 
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Nudity is a symbol of speaking the truth openly and honestly about our own spiritual condition.

Scroll down to the section The Judgment Seat of Christ to read one of the most amazing examples I have ever read of a Christian having their veils of understanding removed.


The Hordes of Hell are Marching


So metaphorically....... true Christians need to be willing to be exceptionally honest and open about our flaws........ nudists spiritually.
 
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So you're saying that being nude is a sin? I don't quite get that.

I'll be happy to go full birthday suit in my room for the next few days to test out that theory, though. If I get a face full of lightning, I will concede to your point.

You won't get a face-full of lightning. My family and I have spent many weekends nude with hundreds of other nude people. No lightning (other than an occasional thunderstorm).

Sin is a different matter. I don't believe our nudity was / is sinful.

If someone else's is, that's their problem.
 
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God will not strike you with a bolt of lightning for going nude. But He surely won't bless you for it either. If you're wondering why God never blesses you, you might want to consider your nudism.

Alan

God blesses me everyday, in more ways than I know about.

And not because I'm worthy (I'm not), but because He's good.
 
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God will not strike you with a bolt of lightning for going nude. But He surely won't bless you for it either. If you're wondering why God never blesses you, you might want to consider your nudism.

Alan

So... God will now withhold blessings from me because I choose to be naked in my own home?

That is the oddest God I have ever heard of. Surely He is not that petty.
 
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So... God will now withhold blessings from me because I choose to be naked in my own home?

That is the oddest God I have ever heard of. Surely He is not that petty.

I've consistently said that being nude alone, or with your spouse, in the privacy of your own home is no problem. But if you go out in public please wear clothes.

God is not petty, but He is righteous and Holy.

Alan
 
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I've consistently said that being nude alone, or with your spouse in the privacy of your own home is no problem. But if you go out in public please wear clothes.

God is not petty, but He is righteous.

Alan

And I said I wear clothes in public places, because, uh, I don't live in a place where public nudity is accepted or legal.

Even if I DID live in such a place and went nude, I don't see why God would withhold "blessings" from me. That is still very petty.
 
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I've consistently said that being nude alone, or with your spouse, in the privacy of your own home is no problem. But if you go out in public please wear clothes.

God is not petty, but He is righteous and Holy.

Alan

And what makes you think that nudity is not "righteous"? Or better, who are you to say what is "righteous" and what is not? So quick to judge… What's wrong with nudity in a nude beach or any other place where everyone else is naked?
 
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And what makes you think that nudity is not "righteous"? Or better, who are you to say what is "righteous" and what is not? So quick to judge… What's wrong with nudity in a nude beach or any other place where everyone else is naked?

Excuse Me! Are you saying that people exposing their private parts openly in public is a righteous thing that God looks favorably upon?

You said: "Or better, who are you to say what is "righteous" and what is not?" (answer) I'm a born again Christian--God's son.


You say: "so quick to judge," but in saying so aren't you judging me?

Romans 2:1 Amplified Bible

2 Therefore you have no excuse or defense or justification, O man, whoever you are who judges and condemns another. For in posing as judge and passing sentence on another, you condemn yourself, because you who judge are habitually practicing the very same things [that you censure and denounce].

Luke 6:42 Amplified Bible

42 Or how can you say to your brother, Brother, allow me to take out the speck that is in your eye, when you yourself do not see the beam that is in your own eye? You actor (pretender, hypocrite)! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye.


Blessings,

Alan
 
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[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Just a remark: If I, as a Christian, am in the shower or in the bath, naked of cause, and I would die, what would happen. Would it count against me?[/FONT]​
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[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Regarding lust.[/FONT]​
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[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Look at the following and realise it isn’t clothes or nakedness that causes you to sin[/FONT]​

· [FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Mark 7:20-23 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.[/FONT]​
 
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We are not to judge that is only GOD'S duty.Mankind made their first judgement by themselves in the garden of eden.
People are judging on this site so frequently they have lost sight of GOD just an observation. GOD asked Adam " who told you that you were naked ? " Did GOD say that you are naked ?
Who was present in the garden ? GOD, Adam, Eve, and the serpent.
 
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I wonder... is nudity really the more "natural" state of humanity? I mean, obviously we're born naked, but there seems to be a drive in every culture that I've ever heard of to adopt some kind of covering as the socially acceptable norm.

The Risen and Glorified Christ wore clothes, and even angels are depicted as wearing clothes! It seems funny to think of angels feeling shame, and if ever there was a human who had no reason to be ashamed, it is the Risen Christ... but He wore clothes. Indeed, John's Revelation has Christ's clothing shine as if it was glorified right along with Him, or was even part of His glory.

Think about the role of clothing throughout human history and across countless civilizations: Clothing signifies everything from social status to tribal affiliation to personal identity. I would argue that I am more "who I really am" when I'm wearing clothing I feel comfortable in than when I'm naked. Nudity emphasizes our sameness and animalness... I would tentatively suggest that clothing brings out our identity and the distinctiveness of our existence as moral beings. (Not that being naked is immoral. But there's something complex and fascinating going on at the intersection of morality and sexuality and our identity.)

FWIW I'm pretty sure C.S.Lewis has an article that addresses this much more eloquently than I can. Anyone remember where that might be? Or care to summarize?
 
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While most cultures have had some form of clothing, much of it would be considered "immodest" by modern western standards. The widespread use of clothes across many cultures shows that there is nothing particularly "Christian" about clothing.

The natives Columbus encountered on his first voyage wore no clothing at all, which was understandable in that climate. I'm not a "Columbus-basher", but how much better the world would be now if Columbus and other New-World explorers had modeled Christ's behavior in terms of the Sermon on the Mount, where He considered clothes to be secondary to the Kingdom of God.

People love to decorate their houses, cars, desks, and themselves. Even nudists sometimes drape colorful sarongs or similar garments over their otherwise-bare bodies, not for covering, but to individualize their appearance. They sometimes also employ body paint, tattoos, and piercings for the same purpose.

While Jesus wore clothes most of the time (as was customary in His culture), He was nude at least four critical times in His life (birth, baptism, crucifixion, resurrection). Where He obtained clothes after the Resurrection is a mystery (maybe He was clothed in His righteousness?).

Much as I admire C. S. Lewis for his Christian writings, he had some goofy ideas about masturbation, and it wouldn't surprise me if that applied to nudity also.
 
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Yup, I wasn't really talking about how "modest" clothing was. "Modest" clothing varies wildly from culture to culture. A loin cloth can be considered modest if that's the cultural norm. But... and correct me if I'm wrong, this is not my area of study... isn't total nudity pretty rare, even in tropical climates?

Hehe, are you saying human history would have been vastly improved by Columbus not forcing the native people to wear clothes? Maybe... that just seems like a small thing compared to the general genocide and theft of property that followed his landing.

I'm... not sure what point you're trying to make about Jesus being naked four times. He was human, He had a body, I'm sure He was naked every time He went to the bathroom or bathed... same as most of us. And, while I assume He was naked at the moment of the Resurrection, He wasn't seen until He was clothed. Also, if clothing=righteousness, that seems a little problematic for your point, doesn't it?

Funny, this is not the kind of conversation I thought I'd be having when I signed up for these forums =)
 
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