Can a Calendar Be Used Prior to the Time of Its Inception?

[Humble Penny]

Can you explain why you claim this?

Quite simple actually...you can't use the Gregorian Calendar before 1582 AD just like you can't use the internet before it was created in 1983 AD...it's like trying to insult someone who has never come into existence...but maybe you think a Samsung or iPhone will still work if you traveled back in time me to ancient Rome???

One other thing I forgot to add is that since God gave Moses the Law on Mt. Sinai and gave him the history of the world from Adam to his 80th Year with dates: this means that dates imply a calendar. And since no one existed prior to Adam the only conclusion is that God began time on Day 1 and the calendar year on Day 4.

 

[klutedavid]

Seeing that there has been much lively discussion more recently on getting the timing of Yeshua's birth right and making sure it is backed by the Word of God which would include knowing exactly which calendar was being used by the Jews during the time of Yeshua. We will arrive at the answer by pondering the question in the title of this post.

Can a Calendar Be Used Prior to the Time of Its Inception?
The answer to this question would be no. That is because our Gregorian calendar was created in 1582 AD and therefore never existed prior to this time, which means it cannot be used to reckon dates in history as no one used it.

What calendar were the Jews using during the Life of Yeshua?
Hillel II wouldn't create the modern Jewish calendar until sometime in 320-385 AD therefore we know the Jews weren't using this calendar either in the 1st Century AD. This leaves us with the follwing options:

• Julian Calendar
• Babylonian Calendar
• Greek Calendar
• Egyptian Calendar
• Etc.

To answer this question more precisely we must trace time all the way back to Adam, and at this point we see that none of the nations existed along with the calendars which were created by them: therefore this means Adam only had one calendar he was following since God created the world and him.

So what calendar did God create and when did He create it?

A Lunar calendar.

Each month in ancient Israel began when the new moon was sighted.

 

[Humble Penny]

A Lunar calendar.

Each month in ancient Israel began when the new moon was sighted.

Seeing that the modern Jewish calendar wasn't around in the 1st Century AD which lunar calendar are you claiming the Jews used?

 

[daq]

More foolish words from your mouth...why then did YHWH tell Moses to observe Passover in the 1st Month of Abib and not Ahket Thoth? Your foolish words would make YHWH contradict Himself, because according to your falsehood the Hebrews wouldn't be following the ways of the Egpytians whom God told them not to follow.

But again what can be expected from your folly? You can't understand that no man made calendar existed from the time of Adam's creation. Therefore the calendar created by God is the same one He told Moses and the Israelites to keep. And seeing that God strictly told the Israelites not to adopt the ways of the nations: this meant they weren't using any pagan calendars to keep the feasts of YHWH.

But alas we'll see what other nonsense you come up with.

I did not say that my understanding of the Torah calendar is the Egyptian calendar: but I completely understand why you would feel the need to paint me in that light. The Egyptians knew the calendar to be 365 days without recognizing the approximately one quarter day that their calendar was off. They understood what they did from observations of the heliacal rising of the star Sirius and the flooding of the Nile. They also took copious minute observations of the moon, (a separate calendar). Your false judgments only serve to blind and harden you further.

 

[Humble Penny]

My understanding of the calendar may indeed be found in the Torah, and Mosheh wrote it, and I have no reason to believe that he would have changed anything in the first two sections of Genesis if it happens that he only copied them from an earlier source, (possibly tablets, as some say).

Therefore the calendar in the Torah would not be any different than the first calendar unless you can prove that the year was exactly 364 days in the very beginning. However you can do no such thing: for even the Egyptians observed that the year was greater than 364 days long before even the time of Mosheh.

And herein is the root of your problem which is affecting your understanding of the Word of God. You claim to follow the clear narrative in the Bible but accept that Moses copied the chapters of Genesis from some preexisting tablets...the Israelites had no complete knowledge of the past until God have it to Moses on Mt. Sinai...therefore Moses didn't copy from any unearthed tablets as you falsely and foolishly claim...

Because you think like this it's no reason why you place the calendar of the Egpytians over the calendar created by God...man where is the block button for you?

 

[daq]

And herein is the root of your problem which is affecting your understanding of the Word of God. You claim to follow the clear narrative in the Bible but accept that Moses copied the chapters of Genesis from some preexisting tablets...the Israelites had no complete knowledge of the past until God have it to Moses on Mt. Sinai...therefore Moses didn't copy from any unearthed tablets as you falsely and foolishly claim...

Because you think like this it's no reason why you place the calendar of the Egpytians over the calendar created by God...man where is the block button for you?

And yet you believe Sefer Henok wherein the heavenly tablets are repeatedly mentioned?

And again, I did not place the Egyptian calendar over the Torah, or the Torah calendar, or "the calendar created by God". You are getting to the point to where you and I will need to stand before the Elohim-Judges for your continual bearing of false witness against me. If you can find that block button to block me then I suggest you use it, and after that, do not go back on your word. It will make it much easier to refute all of your nonsense without you interrupting, lol.

 

[Filippus]

One other thing I forgot to add is that since God gave Moses the Law on Mt. Sinai and gave him the history of the world from Adam to his 80th Year with dates: this means that dates imply a calendar. And since no one existed prior to Adam the only conclusion is that God began time on Day 1 and the calendar year on Day 4.

Again you don't answer the question!

Claiming something doesn't constitute proof, and mark the post optimistic, or prayer needed, or funny doesn't support your view.

I am starting to think that you don't have evidence for your theories, but are keen to get personal if you are called out.

Seeing that the modern Jewish calendar wasn't around in the 1st Century AD which lunar calendar are you claiming the Jews used?

Another claim without evidence.

Shalom

 

[Filippus]

The normal four inter-calendar days which occur in every year, to make the year 364 days, later became a statute by way of the four days in a year to commemorate the daughter of Yiphtah, (I've already tried to explain this to the OP a while back but he just laughs at and mocks anything and anyone he doesn't want to hear).

In the leap year there are eleven days by the Horeb way sandwiched between the end of the tenth month and the beginning of the eleventh month, (the curious statement in Deuteronomy 1:2, and heed the context and what is then said in the very next verse).

Seven of those eleven days are the leap week, so that the Shabbat never changes to another day of the week, and the other four are the normal inter-calendar days which occur every year between the end of the tenth month and the beginning of the eleventh month. In my understanding of these things from the scripture the leap year is 371 Days, that is, the calendar year of the flood, (which is not an easy thing to explain and probably not worth trying to do in this thread).

The normal year is exactly 52 weeks, (364 days), while the leap year is exactly 53 weeks, (371 days). It is essentially the same as what in modern times they would call a fiscal calendar. The leap year cycle is approximately 28 years, (6, 5, 6, 5, 6), and the sequence repeats until it finally gets a day or so out of alignment.

However the cycle isn't all that important if you simply do not allow the vernal equinox to progress more than seven/eight days beyond 1 Abib. When the vernal equinox falls seven/eight days after 1 Abib then that year is a leap year and a week is added between the tenth month and the eleventh month later that same year.

Every month is thirty days, no more no less, and because the four inter-calendar days are inserted between the tenth month and the eleventh month there are 150 days from the seventeenth of the second month, (inclusive), up to but not including the seventeenth of the seventh month.

Thanks for this it actually might help to clarify the Enoch calendar and its link to Genesis 7,8.

Interestingly the 150 days do work out with the Jewish luni-solar calendar. Not every year but frequently enough to notice.

That is why I have started to consider it again above the Enoch calendar.

Shalom

 

[Humble Penny]

Again you don't answer the question!

Claiming something doesn't constitute proof, and mark the post optimistic, or prayer needed, or funny doesn't support your view.

I am starting to think that you don't have evidence for your theories, but are keen to get personal if you are called out.

Another claim without evidence.

Shalom

Thanks for this it actually might help to clarify the Enoch calendar and its link to Genesis 7,8.

Interestingly the 150 days do work out with the Jewish luni-solar calendar. Not every year but frequently enough to notice.

That is why I have started to consider it again above the Enoch calendar.

Shalom

Right...so I can talk about you before you existed is what you expect a sane person to believe? It's well recorded in history that the modern Jewish calendar was invented between 320-385 AD...a sane thinking person would conclude that that the Jews during the life of Yeshua weren't using this calendar in the 1st Century AD. But maybe you can prove the ancient Jews were using the internet prior to 1983 AD? Don't think so...

It's really not that difficult to infer from the Bible that only one particular calendar system existed when God created the world...why you can't get that...who really knows...I don't care to personally find out. I'm simply satisfied with the fact that you don't get it because you deny the plain truth in the Word of God...and when you deny the Truth you will have difficulty detecting the Falsehood...and if you do see the Light of Truth then you simply want to remain in the Darkness of Ignorance.

Is God the beginning of 1st Principles for all things for you?

 

[Humble Penny]

@Filippus I don't want to think of you as a simpleton...I believe you're much more intelligent than that...I will ask you some simple questions related to the title of this thread:

• Was John F. Kennedy assassinated before 1963 AD?
• Were the Twin Towers destroyed before 2011 AD?
• Did the Financial Crisis happen before 2008 AD?
• Did anyone think of you before God put you in your mother's womb to be conceived?

If you're honest then you'll give a truthful answer to these questions with a resounding "No". Seeing that none of these things could've happened before their time: you cannot use a calendar prior to the date of its creation.

No Adam = No Mankind
No Luminaries = No Calendar
No World = No Matter
No Beginning = No Time

What does this leave you with? God dwelling in Eternity with His Endless Light radiating forever.

 

[klutedavid]

Seeing that the modern Jewish calendar wasn't around in the 1st Century AD which lunar calendar are you claiming the Jews used?

No claim HP, it's what the text states.

1 Samuel 20:27
But it came about the next day, the second day of the new moon, that David’s place was empty again; so Saul said to his son Jonathan, “Why has the son of Jesse not come to the meal, either yesterday or today?

Their months were numbered from the new moon.

That is a Lunar calendar. Twelve lunar months in one lunar year.

 

[daq]

Thanks for this it actually might help to clarify the Enoch calendar and its link to Genesis 7,8.

Interestingly the 150 days do work out with the Jewish luni-solar calendar. Not every year but frequently enough to notice.

That is why I have started to consider it again above the Enoch calendar.

Shalom

The problem with Genesis 7-8 is the usage of yod-mem for a yom in Genesis 7:11, 8:4, and 8:14. The reason this is done is probably because of the opening creation account where yam in the plural is yamim, typically rendered as seas, but yamim is also a plural form of yom: and therefore the yamim of creation can also be likened to an immersion as we find also the mention of the word mikweh for the gathering of the waters for the yamim. In other words it appears to be a play on words in the flood account in order to hide a secret.

However the original Hebrew Ashuri script, from the time of Ezra, was not separated, and was rather written in a form similar to the scriptio continua of the Greek Uncial texts. In the original Ashuri script the waw/vav also doubled up as a word separator, and was sometimes read as a particle of continuance and sometimes not read at all, (perhaps even sometimes serving as punctuation, like a full stop, colon, semicolon, etc.,). Moreover the final-form letters or sofits are also not original to the Ashuri script but became necessary when the text was separated and they began to drop the waw/vav out of some places in the text where it wasn't read as part of the text. What we see at Qumran is probably somewhere near the beginning of this process of separating the text, (the great Isaiah Scroll being a good example as sofits began to be used).

Even Josephus in recounting the flood narrative seemingly disagrees with one of the verses mentioned above, where he states that the flood commenced with the twenty-seventh day of the month, (Genesis 7:11,(Josephus, Antiquities 1.81-82)), which clearly disagrees with the Hebrew text which we now have.

How can this be? There is a major clue hidden in the LXX, and it is hidden in the fact that the LXX reads all three verses in question to say the same as far as the day of the month, that is, the twenty-seventh of the month in all three instances. Note that the LXX does not contain the word day in any of these three verses: that is because originally the full word yom, (yod-waw-mem), was not likely present in any of the verses, (or they would have surely rendered it into the Greek text: they were not sloppy with the Torah).

What this means is that it is highly likely that originally the text did not contain the word yom in any of these three instances, and the text was not separated, and each one read the text in the manner he saw fit, according to his own separation and understanding of the text: and therefore the abounding confusion concerning these three scripture statements in early writings such as Josephus and others.

So then, if you have a situation where the word written in the text appears to be asarim, and the text is not separated, but you have no word for day, (yom), you can read that as twenty, or as ten ym, with ym meaning something like yom, depending on how you choose to separate the text in your reading of it.

Here is what I am getting at:

בשבעהעשרים

How should we separate the above script?
There are two primary ways:

בשבעה עשרים ~ in the twenty-seventh
בשבעה עשר ים ~ in the seventeenth yam (for a yom)

There is also the possibility that there was originally a waw/vav between asar and ym, which might also be confusing to the reader or scribe who did not recognize or realize the potential that yam, (yod-mem), might be in reference to the seven yamim of creation. In short, I believe the LXX rendering of these three statements, Genesis 7:11, Genesis 8:4, and Genesis 8:14, tells us what was in the majority of the original Hebrew texts they had at their disposal. However the LXX unfortunately does not separate asar from yam, and therefore, (mistakenly), reads all three texts to say the twenty-seventh of the month.

 

[Filippus]

@Filippus I don't want to think of you as a simpleton...I believe you're much more intelligent than that...I will ask you some simple questions related to the title of this thread:

• Was John F. Kennedy assassinated before 1963 AD?
• Were the Twin Towers destroyed before 2011 AD?
• Did the Financial Crisis happen before 2008 AD?
• Did anyone think of you before God put you in your mother's womb to be conceived?

If you're honest then you'll give a truthful answer to these questions with a resounding "No". Seeing that none of these things could've happened before their time: you cannot use a calendar prior to the date of its creation.

No Adam = No Mankind
No Luminaries = No Calendar
No World = No Matter
No Beginning = No Time

What does this leave you with? God dwelling in Eternity with His Endless Light radiating forever.

Twin towers really???

 

[daq]

I don't want to think of you as a simpleton...I believe you're much more intelligent than that...I will ask you some simple questions related to the title of this thread:

• Was John F. Kennedy assassinated before 1963 AD?
• Were the Twin Towers destroyed before 2011 AD?
• Did the Financial Crisis happen before 2008 AD?
• Did anyone think of you before God put you in your mother's womb to be conceived?

1) No.
2) Yes.
3) October 1929? Yes.
4) Yes. John 3:4-5, Galatians 1:15-16, Galatians 4:22-27.

If you're honest then you'll give a truthful answer to these questions with a resounding "No".

 

[Humble Penny]

No claim HP, it's what the text states.

1 Samuel 20:27
But it came about the next day, the second day of the new moon, that David’s place was empty again; so Saul said to his son Jonathan, “Why has the son of Jesse not come to the meal, either yesterday or today?

Their months were numbered from the new moon.

That is a Lunar calendar. Twelve lunar months in one lunar year.

Here we see in the Hebrew that the words "new moon" are nowhere to be found:

No "new moon" in Hebrew Text

No "new moon" in Noah's day either...

Let's examine the first instances of the phrase 1st Day of the Month:

1st Day of the 10th Month

1st Day of the 1st Month

Is it a wonder that the prophet Jeremiah tells us to beware of the lying pen of the scribes? Strange thing that before 1 Samuel 20:27 the translators translate CHoDeSH as "month" but in the aforementioned passage and select places in the prophets the translators use "new moon" in place of "1st Day of the Month". Not only this why is it that Moses never tells us to observe a feast on a particular phase of the Moon? It's because it's nothing but a fabrication of the later rabbinic Jews...thank God he preserved the story of Noah especially to expose their falsehood.

 

[Humble Penny]

Here we see in the Hebrew that the words "new moon" are nowhere to be found:

No "new moon" in Hebrew Text
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No "new moon" in Noah's day either...
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Let's examine the first instances of the phrase 1st Day of the Month:

1st Day of the Tenth Month
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1st Day of the 1st Month
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Is it a wonder that the prophet Jeremiah tells us to beware of the lying pen of the scribes? Strange thing that before 1 Samuel 20:27 the translators translate CHoDeSH as "month" but in the aforementioned passage and select places in the prophets the translators use "new moon" in place of "1st Day of the Month". Not only this why is it that Moses never tells us to observe a feast on a particular phase of the Moon? It's because it's nothing but a fabrication of the later rabbinic Jews...thank God he preserved the story of Noah especially to expose their falsehood.

It's clear from what I shared in post #55 that the ancient Hebrews were not using a lunar based calendar but a solar one. And I guarantee you Judah Maccabee and his family would not have had success were he using a lunar calendar; and I also guarantee that Jesus would have definitely called out and whipped His own people if they were using the wrong calendar to celebrate the Holy Days of God, because it's clear from the pattern of Yeshua's life that He never once hesitated to call out His opponents for breaking the Law of Moses, and in every instance His enemies had a problem with what He was doing...it was for the simple fact that what He did broke their traditions...not the Law of Moses.

 

[Humble Penny]

Dear readers if we take some time to meditate on the phrase "God's appointed time", can we really call a wandering feast day on a lunar calendar--or any calendar which causes the feast days of God to wander--"God's appointed time?" No, we cannot because to appoint a time is to set and make a special appointment.

Sadly we've grown cold and indifferent to this and just accepted wandering days on our various calendars that we don't bother to give it any thought about it like, "Is this is always the way it has been, or was meant to be?" Have sin and death just always been the norm or did God mean for them to be our daily experience from the beginning of Adam and Eve's creation? No. But we walk around as if it's just part of life and God appointed us to be sinners...don't think so stupidly! Prior to the fall of Adam and Eve it's clear they were able to avoid sin, it was only Satan and his band of fallen angels who were the sinners at this time, and oh how misery loves company. Prior to our fall from Eden we did not have to struggle and toil to earn a living and put food in our stomachs nor was there any conflict between husband and wife, nor was Eve cursed with pain in childbearing nor difficulty in raising children.

Do you see the various calendars today? They are not much different than the many gods and idols our ancestors served in old times. These man made calendars are nothing but things we made up from our own understanding. Instead of our ancestors learning from their folly at the Tower of Babel they decided it was better to drift further away from God, and naturally they had to figure it out in their own because they abandoned the simple truth of God's Word. It's clear from post #55 that the ancient Hebrews weren't using a lunar calendar or any other man made calendar, but a solar one of 364 Days.

Sadly we think we're wiser than God and think that for a perfect God to make a perfect calendar is "impossible" because in our small minds and broken calendar systems this would cause the days to "drift". In reality God never changes or drifts, but it is man who has drifted away from God and changes. From the beginning of creation God setup His calendar and nature to work in harmony with one another and they have been working just fine since then: mankind is the one constantly late to the party.

 

[daq]

Dear readers if we take some time to meditate on the phrase "God's appointed time", can we really call a wandering feast day on a lunar calendar--or any calendar which causes the feast days of God to wander--"God's appointed time?" No, we cannot because to appoint a time is to set and make a special appointment.

Sadly we've grown cold and indifferent to this and just accepted wandering days on our various calendars that we don't bother to give it any thought about it like, "Is this is always the way it has been, or was meant to be?" Have sin and death just always been the norm or did God mean for them to be our daily experience from the beginning of Adam and Eve's creation? No. But we walk around as if it's just part of life and God appointed us to be sinners...don't think so stupidly! Prior to the fall of Adam and Eve it's clear they were able to avoid sin, it was only Satan and his band of fallen angels who were the sinners at this time, and oh how misery loves company. Prior to our fall from Eden we did not have to struggle and toil to earn a living and put food in our stomachs nor was there any conflict between husband and wife, nor was Eve cursed with pain in childbearing nor difficulty in raising children.

Do you see the various calendars today? They are not much different than the many gods and idols our ancestors served in old times. These man made calendars are nothing but things we made up from our own understanding. Instead of our ancestors learning from their folly at the Tower of Babel they decided it was better to drift further away from God, and naturally they had to figure it out in their own because they abandoned the simple truth of God's Word. It's clear from post #55 that the ancient Hebrews weren't using a lunar calendar or any other man made calendar, but a solar one of 364 Days.

Sadly we think we're wiser than God and think that for a perfect God to make a perfect calendar is "impossible" because in our small minds and broken calendar systems this would cause the days to "drift". In reality God never changes or drifts, but it is man who has drifted away from God and changes. From the beginning of creation God setup His calendar and nature to work in harmony with one another and they have been working just fine since then: mankind is the one constantly late to the party.

Sounds like the final fading whimpers of yet another a dying calendar. Thankfully you were thinking ahead and already prepared the perfect place to file it away.

Garbage, Recycling, Compost: Which Bin Do Calendars Go To?

 

[Humble Penny]

If we take a look at the start and finish points of both the Solar and Lunar calendar we see that they both begin the year on Day 4 of creation, but where their months begin and end is where the difference comes down the line:

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Solar Year
=========
1st Solar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
______[01]01 02 03 04 (Spring/Vernal Equinox)
05 06 07 08 09 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30______

2nd Solar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
_______________01 02
03 04 05 06 07 08 09
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 (Noah 600 at Flood)
24 25 26 27 28 29 30 (7 Days)

3rd Solar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
01 02 03 04 05 06 07 (14 Days)
08 09 10 11 12 13 14 (21 Days)
15 16 17 18 19 20 21 (28 Days)
22 23 24 25 26 27 28 (35 Days)
29 30_______________ (42 Days)

4th Solar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
______[01]01 02 03 04 (Summer Solstice)
05 06 07 08 09 10 11 (49 Days)
12 13 14 15 16 17 18 (56 Days)
19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (63 Days)
26 27 28 29 30______ (70 Days)

5th Solar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
_______________01 02
03 04 05 06 07 08 09 (77 Days)
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (84 Days)
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 (91 Days)
24 25 26 27 28 29 30 (98 Days)

6th Solar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
01 02 03 04 05 06 07 (105 Days)
08 09 10 11 12 13 14 (112 Days)
15 16 17 18 19 20 21 (119 Days)
22 23 24 25 26 27 28 (126 Days)
29 30_______________ (133 Days)

7th Solar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
______[01]01 02 03 04 (Fall/Autumnal Equinox)
05 06 07 08 09 10 11 (140 Days)
12 13 14 15 16 17 18 (150 Days)
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30______

8th Solar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
_______________01 02
03 04 05 06 07 08 09
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

9th Solar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
08 09 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30_______________

10th Solar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
______[01]01 02 03 04 (Winter Solstice)
05 06 07 08 09 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30______

11th Solar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
_______________01 02
03 04 05 06 07 08 09
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

12th Solar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
08 09 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30_______________

==========
Lunar Year
==========
1st Lunar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
______[01]01 02 03 04 (Spring/Vernal Equinox)
05 06 07 08 09 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29_________

2nd Lunar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
____________01 02 03
04 05 06 07 08 09 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24 (Noah 600 at Flood)
25 26 27 28 29 30___ (7 Days)

3rd Lunar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
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02 03 04 05 06 07 08 (14 Days)
09 10 11 12 13 14 15 (21 Days)
16 17 18 19 20 21 22 (28 Days)
23 24 25 26 27 28 29 (35 Days)

4th Lunar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
01 02[03]04 05 06 07 (42 Days) (S. Solstice)
08 09 10 11 12 13 14 (49 Days)
15 16 17 18 19 20 21 (56 Days)
22 23 24 25 26 27 28 (63 Days)
29 30_______________ (70 Days)

5th Lunar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
______01 02 03 04 05
06 07 08 09 10 11 12 (77 Days)
13 14 15 16 17 18 19 (84 Days)
20 21 22 23 24 25 26 (91 Days)
27 28 29____________ (98 Days)

6th Lunar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
_________01 02 03 04
05 06 07 08 09 10 11 (105 Days)
12 13 14 15 16 17 18 (112 Days)
19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (119 Days)
26 27 28 29 30______ (126 Days)

7th Lunar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
______[01]_____01 02 (Fall/Autumnal Equinox)
03 04 05 06 07 08 09 (133 Days)
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (145 Days)
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29___

8th Lunar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
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02 03 04 05 06 07 08
09 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30__________________

9th Lunar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
___01 02 03 04 05 06
07 08 09 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29_______________

10th Lunar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
______[01]01 02 03 04 (Winter Solstice)
05 06 07 08 09 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30______

11th Lunar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
_______________01 02
03 04 05 06 07 08 09
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29___

12th Lunar Month
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
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02 03 04 05 06 07 08
09 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30__________________

As you all can clearly see when you separate the Solar and Lunar years from one another and actually order them properly it is clear the Bible is using a solar calendar of 360 Days with 4 Intercalary/Seasonal Days which aren't counted as normal days during the year; and we see just how chaotic the lunar year is. On top of all this the Sun completes the 150 Days of Genesis 7:11 and 8:2-4 while the Moon only completes 145 Days: by this we know that each solar month is composed of 30 Days only as Moses doesn't reckon the 4 Intercalary/Seasonal Days found at the head of the 1st, 4th, 7th and 10th Months.

 

[Humble Penny]

@Filippus Dear brother my clear illustrations in post #59 shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that what I have been speaking up to this point--regarding the calendar created by God on Day 4 of creation and the true length of the solar year as spoken of in Scripture--is correct.