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Meaning?Poor guy sure was confused.
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Meaning?Poor guy sure was confused.
Certainly not if I go around slandering the Most High. And you?
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There have always been schisms. The eastern and western church split (at least unofficially) not too long after Constantine. You're right in the sense that a lot was going on before Luther. He was just the last gallon of water that broke the proverbial dam.
And yes, I'm aware that most of the denominations that exist today are post reformation. Post Luther, there were a lot of people trying to figure out / write / nail down exactly what they believed. Thus a lot of catechisms and confessions and other such type documents penned. That takes time.
Then on top of that; once we hit the latter half of the 19th century into the 20th century that a lot of past convictions and doctrinal interpretations of Scripture fall by the way side. Things like dispensationalism and the modern tongues movement come into play; which opens the door to the arise of extra Scriptural denominations like Mormonism and other various groups that are often labeled as cults.
Wrong. God is sovereign. But sovereignty doesn't mean what Calvinist think it means.@renniks believes he needs to counter "calvinism" at every turn to protect mens' "free wills" from being deceived by the concept of God's sovereignty.
He frequently seeks out these types of posts.
Wrong. God is sovereign. But sovereignty doesn't mean what Calvinist think it means.
"God sovereignly decreed that man should be free to exercise moral choice, and man from the beginning has fulfilled that decree by making his choice between good and evil. ... Man's will is free because God is sovereign. A God less than sovereign could not bestow moral freedom upon His creatures." A. W. Tozer.
We are free to do as we please. What we are not free to do is acknowledge God is behind it all.Wrong. God is sovereign. But sovereignty doesn't mean what Calvinist think it means.
"God sovereignly decreed that man should be free to exercise moral choice, and man from the beginning has fulfilled that decree by making his choice between good and evil. ... Man's will is free because God is sovereign. A God less than sovereign could not bestow moral freedom upon His creatures." A. W. Tozer.
There's lots of people who are undecided however, and many who have been Calvinists change thier views because of a better understanding of scripture.Just as you have said that no one will ever convince you of "calvinism"; you need to accept the fact that you will not convince those with solid convictions on these doctrines and let it go.
If you truly believe in the sovereignty of God as you claim to; than leave it to Him to deal with.
There's lots of people who are undecided however, and many who have been Calvinists change thier views because of a better understanding of scripture.
That's God's business. Our business is making sure we call upon Him while He is nearWhy not? How can we be held responsible for something that we cannot possibly do?
Not at all. I'm for people being freed by the truth.
Amen. He is our hope, and by His hand, I will never grow weary of proclaiming His all-sufficient grace.Nice avoidance of the question. He is near to all who call.
We're not allowed to debate in the faith communities. Controversial Theology is the arena for that stuff.For doing what?
I'm actually hurt that you think I'm overly antagonistic, I try to keep it fun, but I'm used to expressing strong opinions without being nasty. Maybe someone doesn't see it that way. I didn't realize I was not allowed to have a serious discussion in this department... adios, then!Freed by your truth? Yeah..... Just so the group knows; I've had extensive conversations with this person and he's very antagonistic!
Be aware of what forum you are in! You can be reported and if so; you will get a warning and if enough warnings; banned from the site.
Consider yourself warned - I have no qualms about reporting you myself!
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AmigoI'm actually hurt that you think I'm overly antagonistic, I try to keep it fun, but I'm used to expressing strong opinions without being nasty. Maybe someone doesn't see it that way. I didn't realize I was not allowed to have a serious discussion in this department... adios, then!