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Calvinism, explained.
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Clothed, I am not an atheist, as you seem to imply. I know God exists and helps us.
I have heard this verse over and over. God is at work in you to will and work for His good pleasure. What is God's good pleasure?
1 Chronicles 29:17
I know also, my God, that You test the heart and have pleasure in uprightness.
Psalm 5:4
For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with You.
Psalm 147:11
The Lord takes pleasure in those who fear Him, In those who hope in His mercy.
Ezekiel 18:23
Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live?
Ezekiel 18:32
For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies,” says the Lord God. “Therefore turn and live!”
2 Thessalonians 1:11
Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power,
God takes pleasure in righteousness and godliness in us, not wickedness. He does not take pleasure in the wicked dying, therefore He tells them to turn and live.
If a man choose to live in wickedness, then God cannot work within this man. He must freely choose to live in godliness and not wickedness.
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You do not beleive that?
John 14:16
And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever--
John 15:26
"When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father--the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father--he will testify about me.
John 16:7
But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.
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No, I believe that. I just don't believe the part about not having the Spirit until after one has believed. Look, I know I'm grasping at straws here, but I believe it is an important distinction that the presence of the Spirit is what causes us to believe. How is faith a gift otherwise, as Ephesians 2:8-9 states? How does an unregenerate man choose to believe what is foolish to the carnal mind?
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Think about Jesus' statement in Matthew:
Matthew 16:17-18
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven."
How else does the father reveal things but by the Holy Spirit?
Matthew 16:17-18
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven."
How else does the father reveal things but by the Holy Spirit?
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I know that God choosing to save some and not others is offensive, but the truth is always offensive. People who profess to be Christians even on this forum reject the Bible because it is supernatural and violent, yet it is true nonetheless.
Honestly, the best picture of salvation in the Bible is Noah's ark. God flooded the entire world--men, women, and children--and saved only one man and his family. We are the family of Christ, who was commanded by God to build an ark for us with his own blood.
Honestly, the best picture of salvation in the Bible is Noah's ark. God flooded the entire world--men, women, and children--and saved only one man and his family. We are the family of Christ, who was commanded by God to build an ark for us with his own blood.
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It says "By grace you are saved through faith". THROUGH FAITH
I believe Ephesians 2:8-9 as well.
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But it says right in the verse it was the Father. Come on now. Be for real.
Now think about this. Why was it the Father and not the Holy Spirit?
Because Jesus told His disciples He had to GO AWAY. And He would ask His Father to send the Holy Spirit to them.
In the verse you quoted, Jesus was still alive.
Now think about this. Why was it the Father and not the Holy Spirit?
Because Jesus told His disciples He had to GO AWAY. And He would ask His Father to send the Holy Spirit to them.
In the verse you quoted, Jesus was still alive.
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The Holy Spirit did not indwell believers in the Old Testament like He does with us who are saved after Christ death.
The Holy Spirit at times was revealed through the Old Testament saints for a temporary period of time, but did not indwell them permanantly. There were not a lot of times though. It is somewhat rare in the Old Testament.
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Did you read about why this was the case? The entire rest of the world rejected God and went their own way.
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A few times in the Old Testament with King David and a few others. But it is very rare and the Holy Spirit did not stay indwelling them. That is special to the New Covenant.
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Too far to save. Too bad, God really wanted them saved. He tried so hard, too...The world was too evil to restore. They had gone to far to the evil side.
( THIS IS SATIRE )
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The word for "regretted" is nacham, meaning to groan or sigh. He was groaning at the sight of man's wickedness, not regretting his actions, for everything the Lord does is perfect.
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