Marvin Knox
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One hardly knows where to start with correcting you people.
Your refusal to recognize the doctrines of “permissive will” and “perfect will” is almost beyond belief.
I’ve always said that people who deny basic Reformed doctrine almost have to be reading a different Bible than the one I have read and studied all these years.
It would appear that you folks have never read the book of Job or even much of the Bible at all for that matter.
The vilest sins of men and angels in the history of the world have all been permitted by God to take place for His ultimate glory. Of all of the sins in this world - one prime example should suffice.
I doubt very much though that it will stop anyone from saying more of the silly things being said here. It’s absolutely amazing what people will do to argue in any way they can against so called “Calvinism”.
“It was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.” Isaiah 53:10
“Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above…” John 19:11
Let me paraphrase that for you so that you don’t miss it.
“You would not have the ability to commit this horrible sin if it were not the will of God that it be allowed to take place at your hand.”
I can almost hear the weak silly arguments coming. But they will be just that – weak and silly arguments.
You have to be willing to rewrite the entire Bible in order to deny the concepts of the permissive and perfect wills of God.
It’s all being said in the name of undermining a doctrine dear to Calvinists – and that in spite of the fact that it a doctrine accepted by every reputable theologian from outside the Calvinist camp as well.
It’s amazing to see what is being said here. It would be funny – if it were not so sad.
Your refusal to recognize the doctrines of “permissive will” and “perfect will” is almost beyond belief.
I’ve always said that people who deny basic Reformed doctrine almost have to be reading a different Bible than the one I have read and studied all these years.
It would appear that you folks have never read the book of Job or even much of the Bible at all for that matter.
The vilest sins of men and angels in the history of the world have all been permitted by God to take place for His ultimate glory. Of all of the sins in this world - one prime example should suffice.
I doubt very much though that it will stop anyone from saying more of the silly things being said here. It’s absolutely amazing what people will do to argue in any way they can against so called “Calvinism”.
“It was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.” Isaiah 53:10
“Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above…” John 19:11
Let me paraphrase that for you so that you don’t miss it.
“You would not have the ability to commit this horrible sin if it were not the will of God that it be allowed to take place at your hand.”
I can almost hear the weak silly arguments coming. But they will be just that – weak and silly arguments.
You have to be willing to rewrite the entire Bible in order to deny the concepts of the permissive and perfect wills of God.
It’s all being said in the name of undermining a doctrine dear to Calvinists – and that in spite of the fact that it a doctrine accepted by every reputable theologian from outside the Calvinist camp as well.
It’s amazing to see what is being said here. It would be funny – if it were not so sad.
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