Blasphemy

[Maren]

can't say i've ever heard of a "christian comic", then again i really haven't heard of a really religious jewish comic either. i can't say i've heard of a comic that really takes religion seriously

the best satirical comic of religion i've seen in a while is edward current, he's awesome and poe-riffic

Pat Robertson?

Maren(sorry, couldn't resist)

 

[jayem]

can't say i've ever heard of a "christian comic", then again i really haven't heard of a really religious jewish comic either. i can't say i've heard of a comic that really takes religion seriously

OK, time for some off-topic, but clean humor.

Anyone remember an old borscht belt stand-up comic named Myron Cohen? He was often on Ed Sullivan, and the Tonight Show, and did ethnic-type jokes. Don't know how religious he was, but he was very funny. One of my favorites:

Three old men, a Catholic, a Protestant, and a Jew were in a hospital ward. They all were very sick and close to the end. The doctor was making his rounds and checked first on the Catholic man.

"Well, Mr. O'Leary--you know you don't have much longer. Do you have any last requests?"

"Yes, please," the old man said. "I'd like to see a priest to give him my confession."

"Of course," the doctor said. "We'll arrange it immediately." Next, he went to the bed of the Protestant.

"Mr. Johnson, you know you don't have much longer. Do you have any last requests?"

"Yes, please," he said. "I'd like to see my wife and children one last time."

"Certainly," the doctor said. "We'll arrange it immediately." Finally, he went to the bed of the Jewish man. "Well Mr. Weinberg, you know you don't have much longer. Do you have any last requests?"

"Yes, please," Mr. Weinberg says. "I'd like to see another doctor."

 

[Philothei]

Mod hat on

Please stay on topic. The topic is not about comedians or God but about Blasphemy. If this thread becomes another GA topic it will be closed.
Please refrain from actually blaspheming about God and Chrisianity. Posts that call God in a derogatory manner, including Christians and Christianity will be actioned.
Thank you.

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[SiderealExalt]

Should blasphemy be a crime punishable by law?

No no and....no. We don't live in a theocracy. And if we did, hopefully it would be overthrown asap.

Also, assuming there was such a law. Considering I've seen Christians blaspheme against other religions...yeah...might not be a good idea.

 

[DeathMagus]

No no and....no. We don't live in a theocracy. And if we did, hopefully it would be overthrown asap.

Also, assuming there was such a law. Considering I've seen Christians blaspheme against other religions...yeah...might not be a good idea.

Even the seemingly innocuous phrase "Holy Cow" is blasphemy, as it mocks Hinduism.

 

[roflcopter101]

However, one must distinguish between simple blasphemy and hate speech utilizing blasphemy, just as one must distinguish a historian from a white supremacist.

 

[TerranceL]

The moment you can provide the victim in a court of law you can make blasphemy illegal.

 

[Mling]

The moment you can provide the victim in a court of law you can make blasphemy illegal.

Hmmm....that's a pretty fair solution.

 

[peadar1987]

Some genius decided to introduce such a law in Ireland, and last I checked Atheist Ireland is going to release an extremely blasphemous and offensive document mocking every known religious denomination in existance, including Atheist Ireland to cause court confusion. I personally think it would be much entertaining if they made up a religion a la Spaghetti Monster and said Christians were blaspheming the FSM by quoting the Bible, as others have suggested.

It was something that was in our constitution from the unenlightened days when Ireland was to all intents and purposes run from Rome (Literally every law was passed by a religious panel, and a government fell over a health plan that would be made available to all mothers, even those who weren't married!). The law was specifically against blasphemy against the Catholic Church. The only way to repeal something in the constitution is by referendum, and instead of holding a referendum, our minister for justice decided to just start enforcing this archaic law again. Basically if you said anything offensive to any religion out loud or in print, you could be fined or spend time in prison. Cue furious indignation from the 99% of the populace who aren't religious nut jobs.

At the moment the issue still hasn't been resolved, but it seems like we'll just slip back to the way we had things before, with this law still in place, but with nobody mad enough to actually enforce it.

 

[Tenka]

In addition, there are Christian satire sources such as The Door, Slice of Laodicea, Blog and Mablog, etc.

I couldn't find "The Door" you were referring to but I did find Slice of Laodicea and Blog and Mablog and for the life of me I cannot see where the satire is.

 

[Philothei]

......simple blasphemy and hate speech utilizing blasphemy.

I have to agree with this that the same way we do not like to see hate speech about anyone else or we are in the verge of being called "racists" for doing so; the same way we should not "talk hatefully" about God and regliion in general. If atheist does not have a believe in any god ....then how can Christians and deists be blaspheming??? If you have no faith in any "superior force" how can you be offended about it?

 

[Gishin]

I'm sorry, but if any law comes around saying I can't say religion is full of it, I will break that law to the maximum extent possible.

 

[Isambard]

I have to agree with this that the same way we do not like to see hate speech about anyone else or we are in the verge of being called "racists" for doing so; the same way we should not "talk hatefully" about God and regliion in general. If atheist does not have a believe in any god ....then how can Christians and deists be blaspheming??? If you have no faith in any "superior force" how can you be offended about it?

Pretty sure calling us fools is offensive. I might entertain the idea of blasphemy laws as long as it is required by law to edit out offensive elements from the Bible, Qur'an etc.

 

[tulc]

I couldn't find "The Door" you were referring to but I did find Slice of Laodicea and Blog and Mablog and for the life of me I cannot see where the satire is. (emph. added)

That would be the "Wittenburg Door"
Wittenburg Door
and yes, satire is hard to find on those sites because "Poes Law" is all too true.
Poe's Law - RationalWiki
tulc("Poes Law" learn it, live it!)

 

[Nathan Poe]

and yes, satire is hard to find on those sites because "Poes Law" is all too true.
Poe's Law - RationalWiki
tulc("Poes Law" learn it, live it!)

I should've copyrighted "Poe's Law" when I had the chance.

 

[tulc]

I should've copyrighted "Poe's Law" when I had the chance.

Think of it as your gift to the world!
tulc(with great power comes great responsibility)

 

[DeathMagus]

I should've copyrighted "Poe's Law" when I had the chance.

Copyright is automatic.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Copyright is automatic.

Well then, I should get a quarter whenever anyone uses it.

 

[quatona]

Should blasphemy be a crime punishable by law?

To which end?

 

[Philothei]

Pretty sure calling us fools is offensive. I might entertain the idea of blasphemy laws as long as it is required by law to edit out offensive elements from the Bible, Qur'an etc.

The bible was the one to give the law....This nation was estalished according to these laws. why then we have "in God we trust" on our money? If we trust in God why would we "offend" God. There are double messages.... If we recognize God as the higher authority and according to the constitution we are one nation under God why should we blaspheme against Him? I seems pretty contradictory to me.

Now if non-believers have rights to be respected that is their constitutional right and calling an atheist a bad name is punishable by law. Why would i want to change the Koran or the Bible as not to blaspheme about non-believers when there is millions of writtings out there unsnsorned about Chistians and any kind of believers? I do no think a solution like that one is possible or propable.