Blackness Has Become a Commodity

[Hammster]

Ding ding ding ding...we have a winner!

Thanks. You may concede now.

 

[Tone]

Thanks. You may concede now.

Ha ha ha, you just identified why certain rooms are not given the white glove treatment.

 

[bèlla]

During the looting we experienced an exotic dealership was hit. The cars ranged in price from $200,000 and above. They carry Rolls, Bentley, Ferrari, etc. Everything was taken save one. But it never appeared in the news.

You can't move that kind of merchandise without help. The cars aren't in the hood. It was masterminded by someone with the connections and resources to circumvent discovery and unload them.

Crime isn't absent in affluent areas. They play at a different scale. Not the sort you'll encounter in plain sight.

Yours in His Service,

~Bella

 

[Tone]

During the looting we experienced an exotic dealership was hit. The cars ranged in price from $200,000 and above. They carry Rolls, Bentley, Ferrari, etc. Everything was taken save one. But it never appeared in the news.

You can't move that kind of merchandise without help. The cars aren't in the hood. It was masterminded by someone with the connections and resources to circumvent discovery and unload them.

Crime isn't absent in affluent areas. They play at a different scale. Not the sort you'll encounter in plain sight.

Yours in His Service,

~Bella

Yeah, I hear you, prison is for the poor wannabe criminals.

*In large part.

 

[Hammster]

Ha ha ha, you just identified why certain rooms are not given the white glove treatment.

Nope. The phones work in my town.

 

[bèlla]

Yeah, I hear you, prison is for the poor wannabe criminals.

Do you recall the comment made during the riots in Minnesota?

It was along the lines you've stated. They mentioned the foolishness of destroying property without adding it to a portfolio to enable the owners to earn a profit from its demise. In other words, they wouldn't torch a building without a guaranteed payday on the other side.

In their mind, merchandise is child's play. Most people don't think like that.

Yours in His Service,

~Bella

 

[Tone]

Do you recall the comment made during the riots in Minnesota?

It was along the lines you've stated. They mentioned the foolishness of destroying property without adding it to a portfolio to enable the owners to earn a profit from its demise. In other words, they wouldn't torch a building without a guaranteed payday on the other side.

In their mind, merchandise is child's play. Most people don't think like that.

Yours in His Service,

~Bella

Hey, even the police are paid with money...

 

[Tone]

Hey, even the police are paid with money...

Now, imagine if they weren't paid with money. Would things be different?

Could you pay Batman?

 

[A_Thinker]

I’m sorry, but that’s still numbers. It doesn’t say WHY.

Another government report ...

From ... https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/208129.pdf

Results: Eighty-five studies meeting our stated eligibility criteria were located. Analysis of these data reveal that, after taking into account defendant criminal history and current offense seriousness, African-Americans and Latinos were generally sentenced more harshly than whites. Differences in sentencing outcomes between these groups generally were statistically significant but statistically small (although not necessarily substantively small). Further, analyses indicate that larger estimates of unwarranted sentencing disparity were found in studies that examined drug offenses, imprisonment or discretionary sentencing decisions, and in recent analyses of Federal court data. Smaller estimates of unwarranted sentencing disparity were found in analyses that employed more control variables (especially those that controlled for defendant SES), utilized precise measures of key variables, or examined sentencing outcomes relating to length of incarcerative sentence. Additionally, there was some evidence to suggest that structured sentencing mechanisms, such as sentencing guidelines, were associated with smaller unwarranted sentencing disparities. The limited available research contrasting sentencing patterns of whites to those of Asians or Native Americans does not generally reveal significant differences between these groups.

Conclusions: Overall, these findings call into question the so-called “no discrimination thesis.” These findings suggest that policy-makers need to re-evaluate sentencing practices, especially in regards to drug offenses and the decision to incarcerate.

 

[bèlla]

 

[Hammster]

Another government report ...

From ... https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/208129.pdf

Results: Eighty-five studies meeting our stated eligibility criteria were located. Analysis of these data reveal that, after taking into account defendant criminal history and current offense seriousness, African-Americans and Latinos were generally sentenced more harshly than whites. Differences in sentencing outcomes between these groups generally were statistically significant but statistically small (although not necessarily substantively small). Further, analyses indicate that larger estimates of unwarranted sentencing disparity were found in studies that examined drug offenses, imprisonment or discretionary sentencing decisions, and in recent analyses of Federal court data. Smaller estimates of unwarranted sentencing disparity were found in analyses that employed more control variables (especially those that controlled for defendant SES), utilized precise measures of key variables, or examined sentencing outcomes relating to length of incarcerative sentence. Additionally, there was some evidence to suggest that structured sentencing mechanisms, such as sentencing guidelines, were associated with smaller unwarranted sentencing disparities. The limited available research contrasting sentencing patterns of whites to those of Asians or Native Americans does not generally reveal significant differences between these groups.

Conclusions: Overall, these findings call into question the so-called “no discrimination thesis.” These findings suggest that policy-makers need to re-evaluate sentencing practices, especially in regards to drug offenses and the decision to incarcerate.

So the conclusion is that most judges are racist, correct?

 

[Hammster]

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Why not?

 

[Tone]

So the conclusion is that most judges are racist, correct?

The point about it being systemic involves societal mechanisms at work, that don't necessarily reflect the beliefs and/or practices of individuals, after all, they are "just doing their job".

*Worn cogs get replaced.

 

[Hammster]

The point about it being systemic involves societal mechanisms at work, that don't necessarily reflect the beliefs and/or practices of individuals, after all, they are "just doing their job".

*Worn cogs get replaced.

That only works if there’s something in place that says black men get stiffer sentences.

 

[Tone]

That only works if there’s something in place that says black men get stiffer sentences.

It doesn't have to be so direct.

Machines are complex and the push of one lever will lead to a whole array of other (seemingly unrelated) interactions before it trickles down to the desired output.

 

[bèlla]

Why not?

Altruism expresses a willingness to do things that bring advantages to others, even if it results in disadvantage for oneself. Few possess that mindset as citizens or business owners. For the good of all is a concept few could swallow. We’re too self-interested.

We aren’t willing to accept decreases in comfort, profit, income, taxes, resources, experiences, spoils, happiness, etc. to accommodate those with less. Leveling the playing field is fine in theory. But not at personal expense.

Yours in His Service,

~Bella

 

[Hammster]

It doesn't have to be so direct.

Machines are complex and the push of one lever will lead to a whole array of other (seemingly unrelated) interactions before it trickles down to the desired output.

Machines don’t sentence.

 

[Hammster]

Altruism expresses a willingness to do things that bring advantages to others, even if it results in disadvantage for oneself. Few possess that mindset as citizens or business owners. For the good of all is a concept few could swallow. We’re too self-interested.

We aren’t willing to accept decreases in comfort, profit, income, taxes, resources, experiences, spoils, happiness, etc. to accommodate those with less. Leveling the playing field is fine in theory. But not at personal expense.

Yours in His Service,

~Bella

I don’t know about you, but I have a job due to capitalism. And this year, we are doing 10 shoeboxes for Operation Christmas Child, our kids each get to pick a gift for Compassion International (look it up), plus the child we sponsor with Compassion International. That sounds like compatibility to me.

 

[Ken-1122]

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That has got to be the most absurd claim ever! A quick look at the real world, you will see some of the most successful capitalists are the most charitable people on Earth.

 

[A_Thinker]

And this year, we are doing 10 shoeboxes for Operation Christmas Child, our kids each get to pick a gift for Compassion International (look it up) ...

How condescending ... as if those with (perhaps) different political viewpoints wouldn't know anything about Compassion International ... or couldn't figure it out.

I've been sponsoring kids from Compassion for at least (30) years now ... and a passel with World Vision, as well. I just picked up (2) more because of COVID ...