Biden Leading Trump in the Polls!

[MyChainsAreGone]

"MyChainsAreGone" says:

• No, Socialism is not good for America.

10 bucks says you don't know what socialism is.

I know plenty.

• No, the world will not end in 10 years due to climate change.

but doing nothing about it won't fix it.

Don't get me started about the false narrative that is the climate hysteria... I could go on that issue for a LONG time... using scientific fact.

A warmer planet is better for life. That's why most humans live in (or actively move to) warmer places on the earth. The colder a place tends to be, the less people who choose to live there. Cold weather kills WAY more people every year than hot weather does.

And more CO2 is the best thing we can do for life on this planet. All CARBON-based life forms depend on CO2 in the atmosphere to survive.

You have never in your life consumed a single carbohydrate that wasn't extracted from the air by a plant somewhere. No living organism on this planet has ever consumed a single carbohydrate that didn't come from our atmosphere. More CO2 = more plants. More plants = more food. And food production globally is up around 25% in recent years... that's VERY good for human life! The planet is literally getting greener... because of the increase in CO2 levels.

Here's another fact... every single carbon atom that's found in all the fossil fuels we get from underground was once in the atmosphere... captured by a plant, and then taken out of the carbon-cycle circulation when it was buried. There, the carbon lay trapped and buried for millennia. When we burn fossil fuels, we are not "adding" or "dumping" CO2 into the atmosphere, we are restoring it to the atmosphere! That's where it came from, and that's where it belongs if it's going to continue to contribute to life on the planet.

Burning carbon fuels literally makes the planet greener. It's the best "green" energy source!

• No, Reparations are not a "fair" way to equalize opportunity for black Americans.

it still an issue that needs to be address.

Exactly what is "an issue"?

Blacks already have all the opportunities than any white person has. The primary block to them realizing those opportunities is the broken nuclear family in black communities. Fix that, and you'll see a LOT more blacks making good on the opportunities that our nation offers them.

I'm all in favor of all people of color having equal opportunities, but we cannot compensate for poor choices made by a person's parents, no matter what their skin color (and the very same thing happens in white communities, if the nuclear family has imploded).

Furthermore, it is ludicrous to suggest that generations later, that "whites" today pay money in reparations for crimes that not a single one of us was a part of perpetrating.

• And distance himself from other radical leftist ideals

What other "radical" ideals?

• Squelching free speech.
• Safe spaces.
• Political Correctness.
• Defending Islam while persecuting Christians.
• Dismantling the Electoral College.
• Ignoring the 2nd Amendment.
• Universalizing Healthcare under the government.

The list is pretty long....

 

[essentialsaltes]

He's bland and comfy and a known quantity, like that pair of old slippers.

Compared to those gold-tone faux leather wingtips that pinched you unexpectedly at both heel and toe that you had to wear all day... won't it be a relief to put the slippers on?

 

[hedrick]

Biden has the same problem Clinton did: He's been around too long and has done enough things that will come back to haunt him, and he isn't very inspiring. I don't see him as a winner.

 

[jayem]

National preference polls are meaningless. It only matters what the voters in 50 individual state elections are thinking. Even as weak a candidate as she was, Hillary still won 20 states (which includes DC,) and 238 EVs. This tells me that these must be pretty solid Democratic states. At this point, I don't see that Donald Trump would have a snowball's chance of flipping any one of them. But a Democratic candidate would only need to get a bare majority of the votes in MI, WI, and PA (all of which Trump won by <1%. He won MI by 0.23%) That would be 284 EVs. Donald Trump could win every single vote in the other 27 states. But he'd still lose the Presidency. It's 18 months till the election, and a lot could happen. But as of now, the Electoral College is not Donald Trump's friend.

 

[MyChainsAreGone]

National preference polls are meaningless. It only matters what the voters in 50 individual state elections are thinking. Even as weak a candidate as she was, Hillary still won 20 states (which includes DC,) and 238 EVs. This tells me that these must be pretty solid Democratic states. At this point, I don't see that Donald Trump would have a snowball's chance of flipping any one of them. But a Democratic candidate would only need to get a bare majority of the votes in MI, WI, and PA (all of which Trump won by <1%. He won MI by 0.23%) That would be 284 EVs. Donald Trump could win every single vote in the other 27 states. But he'd still lose the Presidency. It's 18 months till the election, and a lot could happen. But as of now, the Electoral College is not Donald Trump's friend.

Technically, you are correct.

But I think you underestimate the difference that Trump has made in those manufacturing states. With wages up and unemployment down, I think he's going to make gains there, not losses.

 

[jayem]

But I think you underestimate the difference that Trump has made in those manufacturing states. With wages up and unemployment down, I think he's going to make gains there, not losses.

Well, car production has been falling for several years. Some of that is mitigated by stable truck and SUV demand. But overall, the industry is currently declining. As the article notes, this downturn may not last very long. I'm a stockholder in the industry, and I honestly hope it does turn around.

The failing automobile industry is pushing us toward a global recession

 

[USincognito]

depends who shows up to vote
polls CAN NOT be depended on

do people forget that polls showed Clinton would win
newscasters were visibly shocked as states reported in

This myth just won't seem to go away. The difference in 2016 was about 45,000 votes in three states and Sec. Clinton got 3,000,000 more votes. That hardly means that "polls CAN NOT be depended on". And did you not notice the polling and results of 2018?

 

[USincognito]

Technically, you are correct.

But I think you underestimate the difference that Trump has made in those manufacturing states. With wages up and unemployment down, I think he's going to make gains there, not losses.

Then why is his polling running in the low 40s? The way you talk him up he should at least be above 50%.

 

[yougottabekidding]

not in a million years. He might just be the only one worse than Bernie Sanders.

Where is the #MeToo people? And explain how he maneuvered a Billion dollar deal that made his son very wealthy. Here is why I don't think he has a snow balls chance in a hot place:

1. Too many creepy touchy videos with young girls and children.
2. Too many skeletons in the closet that will not be ignored
3. I don't think he has the physical ability to keep a wide campaign schedule
4. He says too many things that don't make sense

Really - he makes Trump sound sophisticated and polished

 

[USincognito]

I'm not a fan of VP Biden, but some of these talking points are so 2016.

And explain how he maneuvered a Billion dollar deal that made his son very wealthy.

We literally have the Ivanka Kutchner promoting her clothing brand while ostensibly performing her duties (whatever they are) and and Trump charging outrageous fees to the Secret Service and the State Department for doing work at his properties and you think that Hunter Biden's deal will be problematic?

1. Too many creepy touchy videos with young girls and children.

And yet there is zero evidence that he is anything other than a touchy guy. This gaslighting trying to paint him as a pervert isn't going to work.

3. I don't think he has the physical ability to keep a wide campaign schedule

This didn't work with Sec. Clinton and it's not going to work with VP Biden.

4. He says too many things that don't make sense

Really - he makes Trump sound sophisticated and polished

 

[hedrick]

I'm not a fan of VP Biden, but some of these talking points are so 2016.

I don't think Democrats can get away with what Trump can. Trump's supporters don't seem not to care about his character, but I think potential Democratic voters do.

 

[USincognito]

A warmer planet is better for life. That's why most humans live in (or actively move to) warmer places on the earth. The colder a place tends to be, the less people who choose to live there. Cold weather kills WAY more people every year than hot weather does.

I keep seeing this asserted, but I never see a source or citation.

You have never in your life consumed a single carbohydrate that wasn't extracted from the air by a plant somewhere.

A medium mushroom has .6 grams of carbohydrates.

 

[MyChainsAreGone]

Then why is his polling running in the low 40s? The way you talk him up he should at least be above 50%.

He's polling low because there are a lot of people who would never admit in a poll that they would vote for him. In the current political environment, admitting support for Trump is asking to be maligned and abused. Opinion polls don't count. The only one that counts is the one in the ballot box. That's where the truth is told. And Trump will poll just fine there.

What I've described above is particularly true for Blacks. But there are going to a LOT of blacks that are smart enough and independent-minded enough to vote for the guy that's actually made life better for blacks... even though they might never admit it to anybody else out loud. Trump is going to get a LOT more of the Black vote... Wait and see.

 

[MyChainsAreGone]

A warmer planet is better for life. That's why most humans live in (or actively move to) warmer places on the earth. The colder a place tends to be, the less people who choose to live there. Cold weather kills WAY more people every year than hot weather does.

I keep seeing this asserted, but I never see a source or citation.

No citation. Just common knowledge and common sense.

Ever heard of "snow birds"? People who spend every winter in Florida or Arizona?

Ever looked to see where the most lush and abundant plant and animal life grows? It's not in Canada.

Where is the most robust sea life? In the tropics.

When is the last time you've heard of a heat-related death in the US? By contrast we had cold-related deaths just this past winter... And if you want a citation: Study: Cold kills 20 times more people than heat (that's just the first one that popped up when I googled it just now...)

Here's another thing you've never seen a citation for:

• Proof that our current average temperature for the earth is optimum for life.

That seems to be the assumption... but any proof?

A medium mushroom has .6 grams of carbohydrates.

Umm... your point?

Even if a mushroom gets its carbon for its carbohydrates from the ground, when you "dig" into where that carbon came from... it came from the remains of other plants... which got that carbon from CO2 in the air. So, still... even those carbohydrates came from the air.

You have never consumed a carbohydrate in your life that did not get extracted from the air by a plant.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

1. Too many creepy touchy videos with young girls and children.
2. Too many skeletons in the closet that will not be ignored
3. I don't think he has the physical ability to keep a wide campaign schedule
4. He says too many things that don't make sense

It's funny because all of these same charges can be (and have been) leveled at Trump.

Only difference is Democratic voters seem to actually care if their candidate has done any of these things.

 

[MyChainsAreGone]

It's funny because all of these same charges can be (and have been) leveled at Trump.

Only difference is Democratic voters seem to actually care if their candidate has done any of these things.

Right. That's why they supported and defended Bill Clinton.

 

[Albion]

Biden has the same problem Clinton did: He's been around too long and has done enough things that will come back to haunt him, and he isn't very inspiring. I don't see him as a winner.

All those things will weigh him down during the campaign, that's for sure. He might still prevail, but he would be a risky choice for his party.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Right. That's why they supported and defended Bill Clinton.

That was what, 30 years ago? Who cares about Bill Clinton?!

Let me put it to you like this: If Democrats didn't care about their candidate's character, Hillary Clinton would be president right now.

 

[wing2000]

I don't think Democrats can get away with what Trump can. Trump's supporters don't seem not to care about his character, but I think potential Democratic voters do.

...and some GOP voters who believe character still counts.

Those voters along with the Independent voters and a motivated Democratic party will be large obstacles for Trump to overcome. His immoral leadership will be an issue in 2020. Trump will likely be one of the first Presidents to lose re-election with a strong economy....

The Democrats would have to seriously self-implode for Trump to win in my view. I'm not counting out that possibility....

 

[MyChainsAreGone]

Then you can understand the Democrats' position about Trump--a man in office who supports all sorts of really stupid and even immoral policies and legislation, and they don't like his character.

No... I don't understand.

I do not support socialism.
I do not support abortion.
I do not support invasive government regulations.
I do not support infringement on gun ownership (which happens to be forbidden by the 2nd amendment)
I do not support climate change hysteria or limiting CO2 emissions.
I do not support forcing Christian businesses to violate their beliefs.
I do not support Obamacare or socialized/single-payer healthcare.
I do not support open borders.
I do not support "Reparations."
I do not support special rights for LGBTQ.
I do not support activist judges who reinterpret the constitution.
I do not support special protection for Muslims in the USA.

I DO support "America First."
I DO support getting businesses/manufacturing back in the USA.
I DO support a strong military.
I DO support Israel.
I DO support the border wall.
I DO support job creation (I don't know how he's done it, but I do know he has a better understanding of what makes business thrive than any other politician in Washington).
I DO support policies than enable thriving businesses... businesses have to pay people to work...
I DO support conservative Supreme Court and other Federal judges.

So... I don't know what you are calling "stupid and immoral."