Biden Introduces American Families Plan

[renniks]

No - New Jersey. You know, by New York and Pennsylvania. Not in Canada.

Here - Google Maps

I know where New Jersey is.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

I know where New Jersey is.

So why are you saying I don't live in the US? Pretty clear you thought NJ was in Canada.

 

[Skreeper]

Lol! No loss of liberty! Yeah, I'm aware that these are partially socialist countries. I'm also aware of all the liberties that they are losing.

I rather live in a country with limited liberties than in a country where people die because they can't afford medicine to survive like the US.

 

[Skreeper]

Get different coverage then.
Here you at least have that option.

Your advice here is literally equivalent to telling a homeless person "just buy a house"

 

[Whyayeman]

I have family in Australia. They are free to move about and there are no arrests for going outside. I have family in Canada too. Nothing you have said about loss of freedom in Canada (which wasn't much) is true.

So your list of losses of freedoms comes down to not being able to carry a pocket knife in the UK.

This is your onslaught against taking responsible measures to alleviate poverty through progressive taxation? It's not very impressive.

 

[Whyayeman]

Denmark has the highest taxes in the world.

So what? The Danish consent to high taxation because they see it as fair and enjoy the prosperity and social security in their country. They consistently vote in favour of their tax arrangements; this is just a gripe about taxation.

 

[renniks]

So why are you saying I don't live in the US? Pretty clear you thought NJ was in Canada.

I didn't say you didn't. Read what I actually said. I said New Jersey is probably as bad as canada.

 

[renniks]

I have family in Australia. They are free to move about and there are no arrests for going outside. I have family in Canada too. Nothing you have said about loss of freedom in Canada (which wasn't much) is true.

So your list of losses of freedoms comes down to not being able to carry a pocket knife in the UK.

This is your onslaught against taking responsible measures to alleviate poverty through progressive taxation? It's not very impressive.

Covid: Australian anti-lockdown suspect's arrest draws controversy

"Arresting people pre-emptively for the act of organising peaceful protests or for social media posts is something that happens all too often under authoritarian regimes, and it should not be happening in a democracy like Australia," said Elaine Pearson of Human Rights Watch."

"Metropolitan Melbourne has been living under a strict second lockdown since the first week of August, with a daily curfew, currently from 9 p.m. to 5 a.m. and residents only allowed to leave their homes within a five kilometer radius for a limited time to buy food, provide care, exercise, or attend approved work that requires permits. "
Australia: Harsh Police Response During Covid-19

"In a matter of months, Australia rolled out the National Firearms Agreement, which banned the possession of automatic and semiautomatic firearms in all but “exceptional circumstances.” About 640,000 guns were surrendered through a gun buyback program and another 60,000 were turned in to authorities for free in 1996 and 1997."

Why Australia's famed gun control laws probably wouldn't reduce shooting deaths in America

 

[TLK Valentine]

I wonder if all of that aid going toward childcare being affordable and accessible could lead to lower abortion rates as more potential mothers/parents realize they could have the means to care for a child.

...which is as good a reason as any for the GOP to block it. They wouldn't want abortion rates to go down under a democrat...

 

[renniks]

Your advice here is literally equivalent to telling a homeless person "just buy a house"

I'm pretty sure your medical coverage isn't the government's responsibility... Why would you leave it up to them?

 

[Skreeper]

I'm pretty sure your medical coverage isn't the government's responsibility... Why would you leave it up to them?

Medical coverage should be something that is regulated by the government. It works and has much better outcomes than the horrible system you currently have.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

I didn't say you didn't. Read what I actually said. I said New Jersey is probably as bad as canada.

You said, "Do you live here? Doesn't sound like it." Where is the "here" you're referring to if not the US? So you're saying you think I live outside of the US.

You then went on about how you avoid New Jersey and Canada, which further shows that you think NJ is not part of the "here" you mentioned earlier, i.e. the US.

Of course, after I provided you a link to Google Maps and you looked up New Jersey only then did you realize that it's in the US.

 

[renniks]

Medical coverage should be something that is regulated by the government. It works and has much better outcomes than the horrible system you currently have.

You trust your government with your health? I don't even trust them to buy toilet seats.

 

[renniks]

You said, "Do you live here? Doesn't sound like it." Where is the "here" you're referring to if not the US? So you're saying you think I live outside of the US.

You then went on about how you avoid New Jersey and Canada, which further shows that you think NJ is not part of the "here" you mentioned earlier, i.e. the US.

Of course, after I provided you a link to Google Maps and you looked up New Jersey only then did you realize that it's in the US.

Yes, I initially thought you lived in another country. Once you said you lived in Jersey, I said jersey was probably as bad as canada and I try to avoid it. A little reading comprehension goes a long way.

I've been in New Jersey briefly. I've been in Canada briefly too. No, they are not the same place.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Yes, I initially thought you lived in another country. Once you said you lived in Jersey, I said jersey was probably as bad as canada and I try to avoid it. A little reading comprehension goes a long way.

I've been in New Jersey briefly. I've been in Canada briefly too. No, they are not the same place.

A little basic English and geography comprehension go a long way in terms of knowing and communicating that New Jersey is not in Canada. I realize people who live in remote areas don't get out much so they often don't know what they're missing.

But do feel free to explain how one just gets a better healthcare plan in the US. Because that is a completely false assertion that you made.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

You trust your government with your health? I don't even trust them to buy toilet seats.

...says the person who eats food and drinks water regulated by his government, and trusts his government's roads and infrastructure for daily life, and trusts his government to protect all his rights and freedoms, including his own health.

Are you trying to say you trust a for-profit insurance company whose executives and employees can make more money by denying coverage to you with your health? Do tell...

 

[TLK Valentine]

I'm pretty sure your medical coverage isn't the government's responsibility... Why would you leave it up to them?

I'm pretty sure "promote the general welfare" of the people is mentioned in the Constitution -- one could argue that helping to keep its citizens alive and healthy would fall under that.

 

[hislegacy]

Just saying that SOME OF US have gotten used to not getting everything we "deserve" and yet we soldier on. In fact I was HAPPY to give up my patents for free because they were for the USDA and were intended to go to agricultural providers for free or reduced license fees.

It's called "the greater good". We can expect that from Bezos as well.

Yes, I am familiar with the term:

How the “Greater Good” is Used as a Tool of Social Control

Great article:

…the individual has to subordinate himself to, and conduct himself for, the benefit of society and to sacrifice his selfish private interests to the common good.”

Ludwig von Mises, Epistemological Problems of Economics
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Viewpoint: The greater good is a socialist idea

This in response to Planning is necessary. Parsons lacks the true understanding of what is meant by the word the greater good. If the greater good is to happen, someone else has to sacrifice in order for this to be effective.

Research reveals that this statement refers back to the fact that it is, to quote, "the corner stone of progressive morals and socialist societies." Those who believe in the greater good only strive to impose their ideas on those who disagree with them. They want to impose their standards on others.

We have the right to shape our own lives the way we want to, not forced to comply with what others set as standards.
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[Oneiric1975]

Yes, I am familiar with the term:

And you go straight to some conspiracy theory stuff.

Good for you.

 

[Oneiric1975]

I'm pretty sure your medical coverage isn't the government's responsibility... Why would you leave it up to them?

Why leave it up to folks whose primary goal is secure a PROFIT? Is that better?