Biblical Timeline leading up to the end

[Dave L]

What about the other questions I presented?

Jesus says the kingdom is spiritual. What else do you need?

 

[dadmansabode]

spamming your own website ?? < how so ?

Jesus says the kingdom is spiritual. What else do you need?

What verse are you quoting ?

 

[Dave L]

spamming your own website ?? < how so ?

. >><> dadmansabode.com <>< at the bottom of your posts.

 

[dadmansabode]

. >><> dadmansabode.com <>< at the bottom of your posts.

Thanks for the heads up < corrected

 

[Calvin_1985]

I made the original post being attacked by others. All I'm doing is keeping it in tact and on topic.

Recreation...please think about that.

 

[ItIsFinished!]

Jesus says the kingdom is spiritual. What else do you need?

The physical Kingdom during the literal 1,000 year reign is just that.
That isn't the same as the future , eternal , heavenly Kingdom where only glorified bodies will reside with the Lord forever.
Two seperate kingdoms.
What have you gathered and learned from Revelation chapter 20?
The Word of God CLEARLY teaches a physical Kingdom on earth where Christ will reign for a literal 1,000 years.
During that time all unfulfilled prophecy regarding Israel will be fulfilled just like ALL of God's prophecies.
I am quite interested in what you have to say about Revelation chapter 20 in particular.
What do you say Dave?

 

[A Realist]

Who are you quoting?

He's copying and pasting from here:
Characteristics of the Millennial Kingdom

 

[Douggg]

Who do you say the 10 kings are?

I don't know their names because they have not come to power yet.

They are end times kings, leaders who will be the executive branch of the EU government. The EU is the fourth kingdom in Daniel 7, in the end times. And likewise, in Daniel 2, the EU is the fourth kingdom in the end times deteriorated into the feet and toes of iron mixed with clay. Which means some parts of it are strong and some parts weak.

The fourth kingdom, the Roman Empire, was in power at Jesus's first coming. And will be in power at Jesus's Second Coming, as the kingdom of the little horn - and later after the little horn has become the beast in Revelation 13.

During the rule of the beast, the EU will likely be allied with the U.S. and Canada, to make up the global superpower ruling over the rest of the world and controlling all of the oil in the middle east nations - which made up the territories of the three former beast kingdoms of Babylon, Medes/Persians, Greek. Which is the reason for the composite body of the beast in Revelation 13:2.

The ten kings (leaders) of the EU will be in power when Jesus returns to setup the physical Kingdom of God here on earth to rule over all human kingdoms (nations) during the 1000 year millennium.

Below is my chart, which I show the little horn starting out at the top, as leader of the EU. He will be a Jew, and also descended from the Julio-Claudian family of Caesars.

My chart is not a complete chronology. But it takes you to the beginning of the great tribulation in the middle of the 7 years. What the chart is - is a path of the end times arch villain, the roles he progresses through... to reach the time of the great tribulation at the bottom of the chart.

I have a second chart that picks up with the great tribulation and explains all the timeframes in Revelation and Daniel pertaining to the end times.

Where I say on the chart "King of the Roman Empire end times", just equate that with the EU in its final form.

Which is why I am watching brexit so closely, as that is having a huge impact on the EU restructurng itself to eventually having that ten leader plus the little horn person form of government.

 

[parousia70]

The Word of God CLEARLY teaches a physical Kingdom on earth where Christ will reign for a literal 1,000 years.

Right... where The Physical Jesus sits on a physical throne in Jerusalem and requires human beings to be physically circumcised and render blood animal sacrifices directly at His feet for atonement of their sins and acceptance by Him?

Rendering His once for all perfect sacrifice of Himself on the cross null and void?

Yeah... NOPE.

 

[dadmansabode]

4. The forth characteristic of the world to come will be ... A Reign of Righteousness.

"A king shall reign in righteousness." This could not possibly have been had an impenitent Israel crowned Him King. The same blood that > bought < redemption (past tense parousia70), purchased the inheritance. The Lord will reign by undisputed right. The passages quoted above show that the idea that millennial blessing will be almost limited to Israel, while the rest of the nations lie in a chronic state of seething rebellion is an entire exaggeration. But if men do rebel they will find the rod that rules them a rod of iron. Today men's sins are not imputed in the sense of being summarily dealt with, but then a universal "Habeas Corpus Act " will be in force. "I will early destroy all the wicked of the land, that I may cut off all wicked doers from the city of the Lord" (Psa. 101). The opening scenes of the Kingdom will be of judgment - of the Twelve Tribes and of the living nations of the Roman earth and Christendom generally, whose armies will have been slain by the Lord at His return, but during the progress of the millennial reign, immediate judgment, when called for, will at once be meted out. Open evil will no longer be tolerated. The Lord will rule in the midst of His enemies. His rule will be a blessing to the righteous, a scourge to the wicked. Wrongs will be righted, abuses abolished, every transgression and disobedience "will receive at once a just recompense of reward." .... Link

 

[ItIsFinished!]

Right... where The Physical Jesus sits on a physical throne in Jerusalem and requires human beings to be physically circumcised and render blood animal sacrifices directly at His feet for atonement of their sins and acceptance by Him?

Yeah... NOPE.

Nothing in this quoted post of yours refutes a literal 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth .
NOTHING.
And who said anything about physical circumcision and blood animal sacrifices?
No one but you that I know of.
Hello??? The slain Lamb of God will reign during that time.
No need for blood animal sacrifices.

 

[Jonathan Mathews]

The physical Kingdom during the literal 1,000 year reign is just that.
That isn't the same as the future , eternal , heavenly Kingdom where only glorified bodies will reside with the Lord forever.
Two seperate kingdoms.
What have you gathered and learned from Revelation chapter 20?
The Word of God CLEARLY teaches a physical Kingdom on earth where Christ will reign for a literal 1,000 years.
During that time all unfulfilled prophecy regarding Israel will be fulfilled just like ALL of God's prophecies.
I am quite interested in what you have to say about Revelation chapter 20 in particular.
What do you say Dave?

No. Both the Millenial reign and the Eternal reign are both PHYSICAL. The first is on this present earth, and the latter will be on the newly-created earth. But both are literal and physical places. And they are both the same Kingdom.... there is only One. The Kingdom of God/Heaven is wherever the Spirit of God is.

 

[dad]

Only in the new heaven and earth. Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world.

True, it wasn't, then. However as voices from heaven itself proclaim

Re 11:15 -And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

 

[ItIsFinished!]

No. Both the Millenial reign and the Eternal reign are both PHYSICAL. The first is on this present earth, and the latter will be on the newly-created earth. But both are literal and physical places. And they are both the same Kingdom.... there is only One. The Kingdom of God/Heaven is wherever the Spirit of God is.

I'm sure anyone who studies the Bible knew what I meant.
That is why I threw in the glorified bodies part regarding the eternal Kingdom which yes will be located on the New Earth, with the New Jerusalem.
I wasn't trying to get into all the nuances.
Most cannot even grasp the basics so I'm not trying to confuse anyone.

 

[Jonathan Mathews]

I'm sure anyone who studies the Bible knew what I meant.
That is why I threw in the glorified bodies part regarding the eternal Kingdom which yes will be located on the New Earth, with the New Jerusalem.
I wasn't trying to get into all the nuances.
Most cannot even grasp the basics so I'm not trying to confuse anyone.

Ok. I just want people to clear that our Hope is not just for our spirits, but for our flesh also.

 

[Douggg]

Ok. I just want people to clear that our Hope is not just for our spirits, but for our flesh also.

Redemption of the soul. And redemption of the body.

 

[lsume]

There is no temporary physical kingdom planned for this world. The kingdom arrived with Jesus at his first coming Luke 11:20. It is spiritual Luke 17:21, and flesh and blood cannot inherit it 1 Corinthians 15:50. It is a kingdom only the born again can see John 3:3. It is a kingdom of faith and cannot be a kingdom of sight 2 Corinthians 5:7 as millennial theories claim Luke 17:20.

The great Tribulation was Jewish only and happened as foretold by Jesus in 70 AD. By destroying the temple and Jerusalem Matthew 24:ff. Jesus told his disciples, “when you see” all of this, spoken in the second person plural, meaning those in his present audience, leave Jerusalem. This they did according to history.

Tribulation is the normal lot of all Christians between the first and Second Advent Acts 14:22.

Nothing remains unfulfilled before Christ returns*. It will be as in Noah’s day, much like today where people marry and are given in marriage Matthew 24:36–39.

On the last day Christ returns followed by the resurrection of the Just John 6:39. Followed by the Rapture 1 Corinthians 15:51–53. Accompanied by the resurrection of the damned and their judgment John 5:29. Accompanied by the destruction of the universe by fire, followed by the creation of the New Heavens and Earth 2 Peter 3:10–13. Where believers of all-time meet and live in the house of the Lord forever Psalm 23:6.

*Many look for the symbols of Revelation to literally appear in the future. But if we look for what the symbols represent, we can see Revelation’s predictions fulfilled time and again throughout history.

Up to the great tribulation part of your post I wholeheartedly agreed. However, the new earth is not unlike The new Heaven. The new Heaven began with The GodHead and has been growing since Christ left to prepare a place for God’s elect. In The Word when Christ describes the separation between the rich man and Lazarus, the divide is not crossable without Christ. As I have seen it, the new earth will be sin free and ruled by Christ whether He be in Spiritual form or physical. Since God can create man from dust, I believe he can do that at Will. I have not really searched out what may or may not be after I’m gone or possibly still here. What I absolutely know is that Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life and you must be Truly Born Again.

 

[friend of]

Dave L

You ascribe to replacement theology and yet the great Tribulation explicitly involves Christian believers. Not an enclave of Jews in 70 A.D.

 

[Blade]

Well my brother lets pray its that easy haha! Yet I disagree. There are things OT written that have not happen yet. As a believer the BEST is yet to come praise GOD. But for world.. the worst is yet to come.

 

[Erik Nelson]

Good site:
There are a plethora of the form of the greek root word G4130.

I like to see where each form is used in Revelation to better harmonize the NT to the OT.

Here are a few of the words:

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

4130. pletho play'-tho, a prolonged form of a primary pleo pleh'-o
(which appears only as an alternate in certain tenses and in the reduplicated form pimplemi) to "fill" (literally or figuratively (imbue, influence, supply)); specially, to fulfil (time):--accomplish, full (...come), furnish.

4137. pleroo play-ro'-o from 4134; to make replete, i.e. (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.:--accomplish, X after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full (come), fully preach, perfect, supply.
4134. pleres play'-race from 4130; replete, or covered over; by analogy, complete:--full.

Mat 2:15
and he was there till the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled<4137> that was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, 'Out of Egypt I did call My Son.'
Mat 2:17
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,

Luke 4:
17 the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. Unrolling it, He found the place where it was written:
21 and He began by saying,
“Today this Scripture is fulfilled<4137> in your hearing.”

Used 2 times in Revelation

Rev 3:2
become watching, and strengthen the rest of the things that are about to die, for I have not found thy works fulfilled before God.

Rev 6:11
and there was given to each one white robes, and it was said to them that they may rest themselves yet a little time, till may be fulfilled also their fellow-servants and their brethren, who are about to be killed -- even as they.
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This form is used mainly in Luke and only in Acts outside of the Gospels [none in Revelation]

"DAYS OF VENGEANCE" Isaiah 61:2 and Luke 21:22 Revelation

Luke 21
22 That days of vengeance these are, of the to be fulfilled<4130> all the having been written
23 “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!
For there will be great Distress in the land and Wrath<3709> upon this people.

Last time used

Act 19:29
and the whole City was filled<4130> with confusion, they rushed also with one accord into the theatre, having caught Gaius and Aristarchus, Macedonians, Paul's fellow-travellers.

Elements shell melt with fervent and heat by Don K. Preston.