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Again, untrue. The context of the comments shows your error. Cordially, Skip.Just more double-speak, of course.
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Again, untrue. The context of the comments shows your error. Cordially, Skip.Just more double-speak, of course.
And I, at least, am looking forward to how it's going, and maybe some details would be illuminating. Wouldn't want you to hide your light under a bushel in this area, so to speak.And sadly, the truth is that I DID state that I am doing something,
Well, there's a good reason for that, but I'm surprised you are griping. Here you note the existence of racism within the lodge and that you are doing something about it. Then you complain that I note that fact and look forward to the status of your efforts. My, my; there's just no pleasing you guys.but then it is rare that an anti-Mason will accept or believe what a Mason says.
I have already stated what I am doing, so I will not rehash.And I, at least, am looking forward to how it's going, and maybe some details would be illuminating. Wouldn't want you to hide your light under a bushel in this area, so to speak.
Nope. I'm not griping, just pointing out my honest observations.Well, there's a good reason for that, but I'm surprised you are griping.
Yep, I am.Here you note the existence of racism within the lodge and that you are doing something about it.
I'm not complaining or looking to be pleased, I'm simply hoping that someday I may receive some positive acceptance of and acknowledgment of my honest replies and observations. It just appears that, generally speaking, whenever a Freemason and an anti-Mason discuss a topic, it ultimately results in the Freemason being chastised. Freemasons emphasize the learning about and practice of morality and virtue, yet when we exercise it, it is generally dismissed by the anti-Mason.Then you complain that I note that fact and look forward to the status of your efforts. My, my; there's just no pleasing you guys.
As I have any, I will provide them as I have done in the past with other topics.Still, I look forward to your updates. Cordially, Skip.
And the main reason we do so is, you are being totally facetious in your approach to the comments that have been made. The general argument you have tried to make from the outset was in regard to racism which you try to claim is institutionalized in Masonry. We have disputed that claim, while at the same time, have been honest in acknowledging that racism may still be found there, only not in any institutionalized form. That means simply that there are individuals who, being the exception rather than the rule, still have racist opinions.Here you note the existence of racism within the lodge and that you are doing something about it. Then you complain that I note that fact and look forward to the status of your efforts.
It is proper here to observe that the words Charity and Love are used indiscriminately in the authorised English version of the Bible to translate the same for obvious reasons the former word is never used where love to God alone is spoken of, being used, however, as in the thirteenth chapter of the First Epistle of Paul to the Corinthians, and in the text last quoted, where both love to God and love to man are included in the application of the term. This last quoted text, " Now, the end of the commandment is charity," &c., shows unmistakably the great importance of this grace as the very fruit and forthcoming of the life of faith. To the same effect is the language of the apostle in the First Epistle to the Corinthians. " Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing " (1 Cor. xiii. 1—3). And concerning the relation of the grace of charity to the grace of faith, we have clear evidence in the argument used by the same apostle, in his Second Epistle to the Corinthians, when—exhorting them to abound in this grace, and to display it in contributing liberally for the relief of the poor saints: "Therefore, as ye abound in everything, in faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and in your love to us; see that ye abound in this grace also"—he thus enforces his exhortation, and suggests a reason and motive for compliance with it, " For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that ye through His poverty might be rich" (2 Cor. viii. 9). Liberality, proceeding from this motive, must, indeed, be esteemed as proceeding from true charity : it is the fruit of faith working by love. That the law of charity, " thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself," includes all our relative duties, and is the sum of all the commandments of the second table of the law, is strongly asserted by the Apostle Paul, in his Epistle to the Romans. " Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, thou shalt not commit adultery, thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not bear false witness, thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law" (Rom. xiii. 8-10). And so the Apostle James also says, "If ye fulfil the royal law according to the Scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well" (James ii. 8). And, indeed, it needs but a little reflection to see that the law stated by these apostles—"the royal law,1' as the Apostle James calls it—requires for its fulfilment the obedience of every commandment of the second table of the Decalogue. How can he who loves his neighbour as himself commit murder, or even entertain the thought of murder, or a desire that his neighbour's life may be cut off ? how can he fail to seek rather the prolongation of his neighbour's life, as he would seek the prolongation of his own, by warning him of danger, if he perceives him to be in danger, by helping him if it is in his power to help him in distress, ministering to his relief in sickness, supplying his wants when he is destitute of food or clothing or fuel or shelter, and the like? Again, how can he who loves his neighbour as himself, commit adultery with his neighbour's wife, or seduce his neighbour's daughter? The " royal law," the law of love forbids it. The adulterer or the seducer of virgin innocence does grievous wrong to more than one person; he inflicts irreparable injury on the victim of his arts, the partner of his guilt; irreparable injury on the husband, the father, the children, on every member of the family, whose sanctuary of domestic love and peace he invades and pollutes ; irreparable injury on the offspring of his own licentious intercourse, brought into the world to endure the shame of bastardy and to grow up without proper parental care; he inflicts injury on society which increases with the lapse of years as the consequences of his transgression become more developed and extended. " Thou shalt not steal," says the divine commandment, and this is also evidently included in the law of love, for every act of theft or robbery, forgery, swindling, or any kind of dishonesty, is an injury done to some person or persons, who are deprived of their property, and lose the beneficial use and enjoyment of it. " Thou shalt not bear false witness" is equally included in the great commandment of love or charity; whether by false witnessing, by falsehood uttered in any form or in any way, a neighbour is injured in his property, his reputation, or his feelings. But the apostle extends the law of love even to the thoughts and desires of the heart. He includes in it that last commandment of the Decalogue, " Thou shalt not covet." This also our reason is constrained, on a very little reflection, to accept as a just interpretation of the great law. For the coveting or lusting of the heart tends to the commission of the sins forbidden in the other commandments, and if not restrained and checked, leads to it. And as the Tenth Commandment itself shows us that the law of God respects not outward actions merely, but also inward feelings, desires, and purposes ; so does it serve the more clearly to show that the whole law is summed up and fulfilled in love, in the fulfilment of that great commandment which first takes hold of the heart, and by bringing it into subjection to the will of God, and so into happy accordance with that holy will, provides for the more easy and perfect obedience of all the commandments. A great mistake is made by many concerning the meaning of the law, "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." It is regarded as merely requiring that a man should love his neighbour, and as excluding or prohibiting all self-love. Now it really prohibits not self-love, but selfishness. Selfishness is opposed to that love of our neighbour which it requires, but self-love is not. Indeed, it seems strange that any—or, at least, that many—should have fallen into the mistake just mentioned. It shows that the very words of the commandment have not been considered with due attention. Yet we not only hear it in conversation, perhaps sometimes in sermons, but we have read religious books containing it in the most extreme form. . 13ut let us look at the words of the commandment. " Thou slialt lovethy neighbour as thyself." It is not, Thou shalt love thy neighbour and hate thyself; nor, Thou shalt love thy neighbour and shalt not love thyself; but, " Thou slmlt love thy neighbour as thyself." It takes for granted that a man is to love himself, and makes this the very measure of the love of his neighbour which it requires, the standard by which it is to be tried. The law of God is in nothing contrary to the principles of our nature, those that essentially belong to the very constitution which He has given us; and one of these principles unquestionably is self-love—in other words that a man shall desire and seek his own good, his own happiness. It is from this principle that he seeks to escape from danger, to avoid or avert calamity, to guard against disease or to use means for the cure of it, to provide food and raiment and all things needful for the comfort of life, to improve his worldly circumstances and add to his own means of procuring comfort and enjoyment. And there is nothing sinful in all this; there is nothing that has been here mentioned which will not he found to receive sanction and approval in the Word of God, most of the things to which self-love is here described as prompting being indeed directly enjoined in the Holy Scriptures. Self-love, it is true, has largely partaken of that corruption which, since the Full, has affected the whole nature of man; and it is liable to turn into selfishness, a seeking of our own good alone, without regard to that of others, and even at the expense of theirs. The very purpose of the commandment, " Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself," is to restore it to its pristine character, to bring back its original excellence, and this by conjoining with it the love of our neighbour, whose good we are required to seek even as we seek our own. [/font]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']In further prosecution of this subject, let us consider for a little the teaching of our Lord himself, and that of His apostles; then let us turn to the Old Testament, of which we shall find that the teachings perfectly agree with those of the New—for as the New Testament contains not a new system of religious doctrine, but a fuller development of the doctrinal system of the Old, so the practical religion taught in the New Testament is essentially the same with that of the Old. The texts and passages of Scripture which have already been quoted and commented upon in this chapter, will of course not be noticed again, nor those adduced in former chapters, as in that on the Five Points, in which that important part of the subject of charity, the relief of the Distressed, has already been fully considered. Nor is it necessary here to say anything of that connecting link between the Old and New Testaments, the ministry of John the Baptist; his teachings and the lessons to be learned from his conduct having been already considered in the chapter on The Point within a Circle. But far more remains than we can attempt to show ; all we can propose to do, is to adduce a few examples. In the Sermon on the Mount, we read these words of our Lord: "Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy " (Matt. v. 7). By "the merciful" here, those are evidently meant who show kindness to their fellow-men, and especially show themselves ready to reward evil with good, and to do acts of kindness even to those who have wronged them, to relieve them when in distress, and to forgive them the wrongs which they have done. And what is this but charity; charity it may be said in one of the highest degrees, and rarest manifestations? It is a heavenly disposition, imparted by divine grace, and infused into the soul. "They shall obtain mercy." The promise is a great one; but how sure it is of fulfilment we may infer, not only from considering by whom it was made, but also from consideration of the whole scheme of Christian doctrine. Those whose state of heart and manner of conduct this term " the merciful" describes, are, indeed, already the children of God. They have obtained mercy, and they are warranted in looking forward with confidence of hope that they shall obtain mercy in the great day. In beautiful accordance with that beatitude, " Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy," is the fifth petition of the Lord's Prayer, "And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors " (Matt . vi. 12). From this we learn that the frame of mind which befits an approach to the throne of grace, and in which alone the sinner can look for acceptance and that his prayer for pardon shall be heard, is that of the merciful, forgiving from the heart those who have trespassed against him. Concerning which our Lord presently added these words:—"For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you; But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Heavenly Father forgive your trespasses" (Matt, vi. 14, 15).
.Our Lord's coming into this world, making Himself of no reputation, and enduring the utmost penalty due to us for our sins, was a display of love far exceeding all mere human love; and His whole life upon the earth was one continuous display of true, pure, human charity or love. We see divine love to men in all His labours and all His sufferings; but not the less do we see in them, and it is important that we should observe this, the manifestation of human love, the love that dwelt in the heart of the man Christ Jesus. Love, or charity, the most perfect and tender, was breathed forth in all His discourses; He does not merely inculcate it, but admirably exemplifies it. His love to men appears in His miracles; they were not merely attestations of His divine mission and so of His divine nature, of His right to be honoured as the Christ, the Son of God, equal with the Father; but they also displayed the tenderness of His human heart, His compassion for distress of every kind. How admirable that fact recorded in the narrative of the resurrection of Lazarus,—" Jesus wept! " (John xi . 35:8 ) also that which very soon follows:—"Jesus, therefore again groaning in Himself, cometh to the grave" (John xi. 38). Instances of this kind might easily be multiplied, but it is unnecessary. The same grace in its highest perfection appears in many other recorded incidents of the life of our Saviour, as well as in His miracles. What tenderness of charity appears in his treatment of the woman " which was a sinner," in the house of Simon the Pharisee I (Luke vii. 37-50.) Nor can anything be imagined more wonderful, or in its relation to the law of charity more instructive, than His conduct towards His disciples, when the time of His betrayal and crucifixion drew near, and He knew that they would forsake him and flee—that one of them would deny Him; yet He showed them not only undiminished kindness, but even, if possible, kindness and love exceeding all that He had showed them before, addressing to them many words of comfort and encouragement, that their faith might not fail them altogether.
But this subject is inexhaustible. As to the teaching of our Lord, it must suffice to quote the following sentences :—"But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for He is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful " (Luke vi. 27-36). How
well would it be for mankind, if that golden rule were universally observed, which is so briefly and tersely expressed in these words of our Lord, "As YE WOULD THAT MEN SHOULD DO TO YOU, DO YE ALSO TO THEM LIKEWISE ! '' ' May it be written in our hearts ! May we be enabled to practise it in our lives!
In the twelfth chapter of the Epistle of Paul to the Romans, we find these among many other precepts concerning the duties of a godly life. "He that giveth; let him do it with simplicity." "Let love be without dissimulation." "Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another. . . . Distributing to the necessity of saints, given to hospitality." "Bless them which persecute you; bless, and curse not. Rejoice with
them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep." "Recompense to no man evil for evil." "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord. Therefore, if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink, for in so doing, thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good " (Rom. xii. 8-21). The writings of the Apostle are full of the inculcation and commendation of charity. The thirteenth chapter of his First Epistle to the Corinthians, which is entirely devoted to this subject, has already been referred to. Our space does not admit of our going on to quote, as we might do, text after text and passage after passage from St Paul's Epistles and from those of the other apostles, all of which are full of precepts and exhortations on the subject of charity. And we can only, in conclusion, very briefly refer to the Old Testament, adducing two or three passages to show that its teaching on this subject perfectly accords with that of the New. The following precepts of the Mosaic law exhibit very beautifully the great principle of charity upon which it is founded, and by which it is pervaded, and they are but a few out of many which might be quoted. " Thou shall neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt" (Ex. xxii. 21). " Ye shall not afflict any widow, or fatherless child" (Ex. xxii. 22). " If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury " (Ex. xxii. 25). " If thou at all take thy neighbour's garment to pledge, thou shalt deliver it unto him by that the sun goeth down: for that is his covering only; it is his raiment for his skin;
wherein shall he sleep ? and it shall come to pass, when he crieth unto me, that I will hear; for I am gracious " (Ex. xxii. 26-27). " If thou meet thine enemy's ox or his ass going astray, thou shalt surely bring it back to him again. If thou see the ass of him that hateth thee lying under his burden, and wouldest forbear to help him, thou shalt surely help with him." (Ex. xxiii. 4, 5). "Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him" (Lev. xix. 17). "Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people; but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LOBD" (Lev. xix. 18). "And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee, then thou shalt relieve him, yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner: that he may live with thee. Take no usury of him, or increase, but fear thy God: that thy brother may live with thee. Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase" (Lev. xxv. 35-37).—"And if thy brother that dwelleth by thee be waxen poor, and be sold unto thee, thou shalt not compel him to serve as a bond-servant: but as an hired servant, and as a sojourner, shall he be with thee, and shall serve thee unto the year of jubilee: and then he shall depart from thee, both he and his children with him, and shall return unto his own family, and unto the possession of his fathers shall he return. . . . Thou shalt not rule over him with rigour, but shalt fear thy God " (Lev. xxv. 39-13). " If there be amdng you a poor man of one of thy brethren within any of thy gates, in thy land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not harden thine heart, nor shut thine hand from thy poor brother; but thou shalt open thine hand wide unto him, and shalt surely lend him sufficient for his need, in that which he wanteth. Beware that there be not such a thought in thy wicked heart, saying, The seventh year, the year of release, is at hand; and thine eye be evil against thy poor brother, and thou givest him nought, and he cry unto the LORD against thee, and it be sin unto thee. Thou shalt surely give him, and thine heart shall not be grieved when thou givest unto him: because that for this thing the LORD thy God shall bless thee in all thy works, and in all that thou puttest thine hand unto. For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand mide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in the land" (Deut. xv. 7-11). "And if thy brother, an Hebrew man, or an Hebrew woman, be sold unto thee, and serve thee six years, then in the seventh year thou shalt let him go free from thee. And when thou sendest him out free from thee, thou shalt not let him go anay empty: Thou shalt furnish him liberally out of thy flock, and out of thy floor, and. out of thy wine-press: of that wherewith the Lord thy God hath blessed thee thon shalt give unto him. And thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in the land of Egypt, and the Lord thy God redeemed thee: therefore I command thee this thing to-day" (Dent. xv. 12-15).
A glance at the number of the quotations which have been made, will suffice to show that the law of Moses abounds in precepts replete with charity, and requiring of the people the constant practice of it in all the relations of life. And it is impossible to read them without being filled with admiration. What code of laws, of any nation, is to be compared with this ? Never did any mere human legislation make such provision for the poor and needy, for " the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow." The tender care manifested for them attests the divine origin of the law; which is further manifested in the adaptation of the whole law to the purpose of cultivating and cherishing sentiments of charity in the hearts of the people, a purpose such as no code of laws of man's devising was ever framed for. Nay, the law bears, if possible, even yet more fully the character of divine, in its requiring charity in the heart, and not merely laying down rules for outward conduct. Human legislation never attempted this; and the attempt would bo ridiculous. But it is a beautiful and admirable feature--a peculiar and distinguishing excellency—in a law given by God, enforced by continual reference to His authority, "I, the LORD thy God, command thee." In like manner it is a peculiar and beautiful characteristic of this law, manifestly appropriate to it as a divine law, and such as indeed could not belong to any law not divine, that ite precepts are enforced by reasons annexed ; arguments and motives for a willing cheerful obedience. Thus the people are reminded that they were strangers and bondmen in the land of Egypt, and they are taught that therefore they are to be kind to strangers and not to oppress their servants. We might quote a multitude of other texts and passages concerning charity from the Old Testament, especially from the Book of Psalms and the books of the prophets. We must refrain from doing so, and have thought it best to exhibit its teaching on this subject from the books of Moses, on which the whole system of religion developed by the Jewish prophets and psalmists was founded. And these, we see, correspond exactly with the New Testament in their teaching as to this most important point of religion. (Chalmers Izett Paton, Freemasonry, its Symbolism, Religious Nature 428-43)
MASONIC SYMBOLS.THE COFFIN AND THE GRAVE.
A COFFIN beside an open grave, is a Masonic symbol, which, it hardly needs to be said, is intended to remind us of the certainty of death, that we may so number our days as to apply our hearts unto wisdom. But on the coffin-lid is a star, the emblem of divinity, calling us to remember that all thingseven life and deathare under the control of Him in whom we live, and move, and have our being calling us also to think of our brother whose coffin we may be supposed to see there before us, as indissolubly united to Him who is the Life of the World, and who saith of Himself, "l am the Resurrection and the Life." Over the coffin also extend the branches of an acaciaevergreen, the emblem of immortalitywhich grows at the head of the grave; and this teaches us to raise our thoughts above the present state of things and all their gloom, to that better world in which there is no death, anticipating with joy the sound of the last trumpet, at which they that are in their graves shall come forth. " I know," says Job, " that my Redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth; and though after my skin worms shall destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: whom I shall see for myself, and not another, though my rems be consumed within me" (Job xix. 25-27). "Behold I show you a mystery," says the Apostle Paul to the Corinthians; " we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump, for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For tins corruptible shall put on incorruption, and this mortal shall put on immortality. Then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory " (1 Cor. xv. 51-54). "For if we believe that Jesus died, and rose again," says the same apostle in his First Epistle to the Thessalonians, "even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him. For this we say unto you through the Word of the Lord, that we [those of us] which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent [go before] them which arc asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we [those of us] which are alive, and remain, shall be caught up with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and the dead in Christ shall rise first [and, first the dead in Christ shall rise]: then we [those of us] which are alive, and remain, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord" (1 Thess. iv. 14-17). Thus should our hopes be raised, even in view of the coflin and the grave, the sad emblems of mortality, to the glory of the heavenly kingdom and the blessedness of everlasting life. All this is contrary to natural expectation: the ouly sure hope is founded on revelation and the promise of God. The natural feeling and the good hope which is through grace arc both beautifully expressed in the following passage of the book of Job : " There is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease. Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground; yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant. But man dieth, and wasteth away ; yea, man giveth np the ghost, and where is he? As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up; so man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. Oh that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me ! If a man die, shall be live again ? All the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come. Thou shalt call, and I will answer Thee: Thou wilt have a desire to the work of Thine hands" (Job xiv. 7-15). For the encouragement of our souls in hope, let us call to mind the words of our Lord to the sister of Lazarus. "Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died; but I know that, even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee. Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. Jesus said unto her, I am the Resurrection and the Life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth, and believeth in me, shall never die" (John XL. 21-26). The evergreen acacia spreading over the grave suggests the thought of immortality: the star upon the coffin-lid directs our thoughts to Him who is the Resurrection and the Life, the Bright and Morning Star. (Chalmers Izett Paton, Freemasonry, its Symbolism, Religious Nature, and Law of Perfection, p. 380-82)
."But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them' which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died, and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we [those of us, i.e., believers] which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first [i.e., first, the dead in Christ shall rise], Then we [those of us, believers,] which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air : and so shall we ever be with the Lord" (1 Thess. iv. 13-17). "There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars ; for one star differeth from another star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead; it is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour, it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. . . . And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. . . . Behold, I show you a mystery ; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump; (for
the trumpet shall sound); and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal shall put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 0 death, where is thy sting? 0 grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory, through our Lord Jesus Christ " (1 Cor. xv. 41-57). One other text must still be quoted with respect to this subject of our blessed hope of a resurrection from the dead. "For our conversation is in heaven," says the Apostle Paul in his Epistle to the Philippians, " from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ : Who shall change our vile body, and make it like unto his glorious body, according to the working by which he is able to subdue all things unto himself" (Phil. iii. 20, 21). And as to the joy and glory of heaven, one quotation of a few verses from the Book of Revelation may suffice, although it would be easy to quote much more from the same and other parts of Scripture to similar purpose." And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month, and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. And there shall be no more curse; but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him, and they shall see His face, and His name shall be in their foreheads. And there shall be no night there: and they need no candle, neither light of the sun: for the Lord God giveth them light, and they shall reign for ever and ever" (Rev. xxii. 1-5). But language is incapable of conveying to the mind of man a perfect idea of the glory that shall be revealed in us; and we are compelled to conclude in an expectation of something too good and blissful and glorious to be fully understood. Paul speaks of himself as "having a desire to depart and to be with Christ, which is far better" (Phil. i. 23). (Freemasonry: Its Symbolism, Chalmers Izett Paton, p. 427)
The great law of charity is expressed in the words of our Lord, when one asked Him, "Which is the great commandment in the law ?" (Matt. xxii. 36), a question founded on a prevalent notion of the Jews, a notion which implies an utter misapprehension of the nature of the divine law, and a fatal error as to the very first principles of religion that there was some one of God's commandments, if they could but discover which it was, the observance of which was more regarded by God than that of any or all the rest, and would compensate for much neglect or transgression of them." Jesus said unto him, THOU SHALT LOVE THE LORD THY GOD WITH ALL THY HEART, AND WITH ALL THY SOUL, AND WITH ALL THY MIND. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets " (Matt. xxii. 37-40). Thus He taught, in fact, that these two commandments are, as it is expressed in the Westminster Assembly's Shorter Catechism, " the sum of the moral law." And it is easy to see that the observance of them implies an observance of every commandment. The man who loves God cannot but desire to keep, and delight in keeping, His commandments; in which are included all our duties towards our fellow men and towards ourselves, as well as our duties towards God, the duties of faith, piety, and worship; so that the second of the two great commandments evidently depends upon the first, and may almost be regarded as included in it, certainly at least flowing from it of necessary consequence. With this view of the nature of charity, its connection with faith, and its relation to all the duties enjoined by the divine law, accord the words of the Apostle John "Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God and knoweth God " (1 John iv. 7); "This is the love of God, that we keep His commandments " (1 John v. 3) ; and those of the Apostle Paul, "But as touching brotherly love, ye need not that I write unto you, for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another" (1 Thess. iv. 9); "Now, the end of the commandment is charity, out of a pure heart, and a good conscience, and faith unfeigned " (1 Tim. i. 5). It is proper here to observe that the words Charity and Love are used indiscriminately in the authorised English version of the Bible to translate the same Greek word, and are therefore to be looked upon as perfectly synonymous, although for obvious reasons the former word is never used where love to God alone is spoken of, being used, however, as in the thirteenth chapter of the First Epistle of Paul to the Corinthians, and in the text last quoted, where both love to God and love to man are included in the application of the term. This last quoted text," Now, the end of the commandment is charity," & c., shows unmistakably the great importance of this grace as the very fruit and forthcoming of the life of faith. To the same effect is the language of the apostle in the First Epistle to the Corinthians. "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing " (1 Cor. xiii. 13). And concerning the relation of the grace of charity to the grace of faith, we have clear evidence in the argument used by the same apostle, in his Second Epistle to the Corinthians, when exhorting them to abound in this grace, and to display it in contributing liberally for the relief of the poor saints: "Therefore, as ye abound in everything, in faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and in your love to us; see that ye abound in this grace also" he thus enforces his exhortation, and suggests a reason and motive for compliance with it, "For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that ye through His poverty might be rich" (2 Cor. viii. 9). Liberality, proceeding from this motive, must, indeed, be esteemed as proceeding from true charity: it is the fruit of faith working by love. That the law of charity, "thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself," includes all our relative duties, and is the sum of all the commandments of the second table of the law, is strongly asserted by the Apostle Paul, in his Epistle to the Romans. "Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, thou shalt not commit adultery, thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not bear false witness, thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law" (Rom. xiii. 8-10). And so the Apostle James also says, "If ye fulfil the royal law according to the Scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well" (James ii. 8). And, indeed, it needs but a little reflection to see that the law stated by these apostles "the royal law," as the Apostle James calls it requires for its fulfilment the obedience of every commandment of the second table of the Decalogue. How can he who loves his neighbour as himself commit murder, or even entertain the thought of murder, or a desire that his neighbour's life may be cut off? how can he fail to seek rather the prolongation of his neighbour's life, as he would seek the prolongation of his own, by warning him of danger, if he perceives him to be in danger, by helping him if it is in his power to help him in distress, ministering to his relief in sickness, supplying his wants when he is destitute of food or clothing or fuel or shelter, and the like? Again, how can he who loves his neighbour as himself, commit adultery with his neighbour's wife, or seduce his neighbour's daughter? The "royal law," the law of love forbids it. (Chalmers Izett Paton, Masonic Symbols: Charity, Freemasonry: Its Symbolism, Religious Nature, and Law of Perfection, P. 432-33)
.There is nothing in the principles or Landmarks of Freemasonry to prevent the brotherly intercourse of those who hold different creeds, the first principles of religious truth already mentioned being acknowledged. On the contrary, they are bound to regard each other with brotherly kindness; and in the Lodge to prevent disputes, dissensions, and alienations of feeling all discussion of their questions of difference is forbidden. We place the Bible on the Altar as the Great Light of Freemasonry, we carry the Bible in our processions, we read the Bible in our meetings, we offer prayer in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. But Jews, who are members of our Order and of our Lodges, object to these things, or to some of them, and their conscientious scruples deserve and receive our regard. When Jews are initiated, they are generally sworn on the Old Testament alone, and Mahommedans are sworn on the Koran, in fact, every one on the Book which he himself receives as that of the Law of God. There is nothing in the Landmarks to hinder Jews, if Jews exclusively form a whole Lodge, from having the Old Testament alone set before them as the Great Light; nothing to hinder Mahommedans from giving the same place to the Koran, they acknowledging it as the revelation of the mind of God. Meanwhile, it is, however, indisputable that as Freemasonry has for a long time been chiefly cultivated amongst Christians, it has received, in a great degree, a Christian character; and in nothing is this more marked than in its Symbolism. To expound many of the symbols of Modern Freemasonry otherwise than according to Christian beliefs, would be utterly impossible. In the part of this work devoted to them, we have endeavoured to explain them as we find them; but this implied frequent reference to the Bible to the New Testament as well to the Old and frequent introduction of the distinguishing doctrines of Christianity. It may be possible for men of other religions to elaborate a similar system for themselves; but as yet it has not been done, and only the symbols framed by Jewish and Christian Masons are in use in the Fraternity. (Chalmers Izett Paton, Freemasonry: Its Symbolism, p. 449-50)
Your proprietary stance, though duly noted, means nothing on a forum which you neither own nor administrate, so you can get used to it, whether you are here or elsewhere. If it makes you unhappy, you could always go away again.I go away for a few days,
I am a Christian, same as you. If being Christian makes one an anti-Christ, point at your mirror.and this anti-Christ/Mason
Unpopular to YOU, maybe, because you don't like it that he's Christian and interprets Masonry the same. Could you please elaborate for us, exactly where you come across that assessment of Paton? I've never seen any such thing stated, or even implied, about him.posts an interpretation from an unpopular author, Chalmers Izett Paton
As I already pointed out, this thread was opened as a sister thread to the one which bears the same name, but without "monitorial" in the title, as a courtesy to Mr. Sampson. After it was titled, it occurred to me that "monitorial" was too restrictive, because in the past, I have never really given consent to the double-standard insistences of you or Mr. Sampson in the first place. Thus it was, that the premise upon which the thread was opened, was altered very early on in the process of posting here, to include any and all materials considered as bearing a bit more weight of authority by its having been published, sanctioned, approved, or endorsed, tacitly or otherwise, by a Grand Lodge.which like most of what he's posted before now, is neither monitorial (as the title of this thread implies),
Y'all already tried that, remember? The last time you started yammering about dates was in regards to a series of Short Talk Bulletin citations I posted. In response to your challenge, I posted the same quotes again with dates, and proved to you that every single one of them was recent. It doesn't really matter to me about dates, nor does it matter to me when you start into your tirade about "21st Century Masonry," because neither you nor Skip Sampson hold yourselves to that standard either. Nor will I be dictated to when it comes to "monitorial," because neither of you hold to that standard either. That is a false and double standard that the two of you have used for years, while citing from sources yourselves which do not match the standards you insist upon.nor is it the prevailing Masonic view of 21st century Freemasonry.
I have not once on this thread made any such claim. You really need to go away for a few more days, weeks even, for you are clearly delusional and need the time away.he has made it his life's work to deceive the public on these forums into thinking that Freemasonry is Christian
It says a lot more about your own LACK of character OR credibility, than anything else.What does this say about his character as a person, and his credibility as a pastor?
All I've done on this thread, and on the thread from which it broke out, is present materials which DO contain biblical material and or Christian interpretation. And I have done so in response to a request to do so BY YOU!It may be his heartfelt interpretation of Freemasonry, and the interpretation of those Masonic authors he often quotes, but he cannot prove that this is the prevailing Masonic position of Freemasonry in general, from Grand Lodge sources, which hold the official position of this anti-Christ, unbiblical fraternity.
He uses tons of bandwidth posting material NOT acknowledged by any Grand Lodge in America, including his own. And, any discerning Christian can call, or write, any Grand Lodge in the United States and ask them, "Is Freemasonry a Christian organization?" And they will tell you NO! You can also do a reasonable amount of online research about Freemasonry and see that this so-called "Rev" is a deceiver trying to make something that is antithetical to biblical Christianity appear as though it's not.
You don't have to take my word for it, readers, the link is here:Some time ago, I was invited by the founder of O.F.F. to start a thread listing the Christian references/interpretations and biblical content that can be found in Masonry, and "let's talk about them." On this thread, I seek to respond to that invitation. At the time I received it, I began work on locating as many of them as I could. But I had no idea at the time that it would be as monumental a task as it has proven to be. In fact, at this point, some 3 years or so since undertaking it, it is far from being complete. For one thing, I have made no constraints upon this effort. Our critics have had a habit of trying to restrict what we may put upon the table, by insisting on either Grand Lodge publications, or limited further to only monitorial materials, or even further, to the rituals themselves. But at the same time, they have no reservations about posting material as though it were authoritative, from every source imaginable, even from pure web-surfing to find proof-texting citations. Yet another limitation has been sometimes insisted upon by them, to produce "current" materials. This restriction, too, they themselves have flouted when presenting their own positions. For that reason, I have placed absolutely no limitations upon this concerning types of materials, degree of authority accorded the sources, or time frames.
The sheer bulk of it alone, if I am to make any headway presenting it, will prevent very much commentary upon it, other than to highlight some of the key references, so I will keep my comments brief and intermittent--though I do invite any and all commentary upon it.
Having plowed through your comments from an obscure Mason from well over a century ago, I am somewhat mystified as to the relevance of his writings to Masonry.Now either come up with some objection that (1) makes sense or (2) has not already been addressed,
Having read plenty enough offerings from you and Mike, more times than I could count, that fit the same description, I can't understand your difficulty with it.Having plowed through your comments from an obscure Mason from well over a century ago, I am somewhat mystified as to the relevance of his writings to Masonry.
Would you mind summarizing just what point you are trying to make? Cordially, Skip.
It didn't work; can you try again? Cordially, Skip.Nevertheless, here's the link,