Bibical or not

[Sammy-San]

There are no unplanned pregnancies – Jeff Mikels

 

[Tayla]

You should always assume you might get pregnant.

 

[disciple Clint]

There are no unplanned pregnancies – Jeff Mikels

Jeremiah 1:5

 

[d taylor]

Jeremiah 1:5

That was addressed to Jeremiah and not just to every person born, unless every person born, is ordained as a prophet to the nations.

 

[disciple Clint]

That was addressed to Jeremiah and not just to every person born, unless every person born, is ordained as a prophet to the nations.

a man is a man as far as God is concerned there is no difference when God creates us, what happens after that is up to our free will.

 

[Oldmantook]

There are no unplanned pregnancies – Jeff Mikels

....except for pregnancy as a result of rape.

 

[d taylor]

a man is a man as far as God is concerned there is no difference when God creates us, what happens after that is up to our free will.

The verse is clearly stating that before Jeremiah was born God had selected/chosen Him for this service.

 

[Sammy-San]

That was addressed to Jeremiah and not just to every person born, unless every person born, is ordained as a prophet to the nations.

So everyone on the broad road to destruction, God had desired gifts and callings for them?

 

[Sammy-San]

Jeremiah 1:5

if human cloning is real, the clone wouldnt have the same mind, soul, will.

So there could be an infinite amount of humans potentially?

 

[d taylor]

So everyone on the broad road to destruction, God had desired gifts and callings for them?

What are you reading

 

[Sammy-San]

What are you reading

They said in church you were meant to be born at a certain time.

 

[d taylor]

They said in church you were meant to be born at a certain time.

That may be true not sure if that is stated anywhere in the Bible. But Jeremiah as was John the Baptist was assigned a job to do for God before they were born.

But my point is a verse can not just be taken out of the Bible and used out of context to make a point about something a person believes. Because the Jeremiah 1:5 verse is about Jeremiah, not about every person ever born.

 

[disciple Clint]

That was addressed to Jeremiah and not just to every person born, unless every person born, is ordained as a prophet to the nations.

seems clear to me what is it that is unclear to you. Jeremiah 1:5 Commentary - John Gill's Exposition of the Bible

 

[Paidiske]

if human cloning is real, the clone wouldnt have the same mind, soul, will.

So there could be an infinite amount of humans potentially?

Cloning just means you have the same genes. Identical twins are clones, technically, and they each have their own mind, soul, will etc.

As for the OP, if someone wants to claim that God has a purpose for every pregnancy, he would probably need to address why about one fifth or more of pregnancies end in miscarriage. What was God's purpose for those?

 

[disciple Clint]

That was addressed to Jeremiah and not just to every person born, unless every person born, is ordained as a prophet to the nations.

Whedon's Commentary on the Bible

5. Before I formed thee — Jeremiah was assigned to an extraordinary work. The emphasis and solemnity of this assignment are here indicated by the fulness of the statement. As in the case of Samson, Samuel, John the Baptist, and some others, God’s purpose concerning him antedated his birth. Of course there is in this nothing to imply that this is not true of others, or indeed of all; but Jeremiah is reminded and assured of this, that he may feel himself “girded of God.” There is in the work which God has for men to do an individuality exactly answering to that of the worker. The eminent and notable cases of individual election mentioned in the Bible are but specimens of all. There is in this nothing of fatalism, since the free agent may, and often does, refuse to fill his assigned mission.

 

[disciple Clint]

if human cloning is real, the clone wouldnt have the same mind, soul, will.

So there could be an infinite amount of humans potentially?

I do not think there would be a soul in a clone. A clone is not like a twin.

 

[Paidiske]

I do not think there would be a soul in a clone. A clone is not like a twin.

In what way is a twin not like a clone? They are genetically identical, which is the definition of a clone.

 

[disciple Clint]

In what way is a twin not like a clone? They are genetically identical, which is the definition of a clone.

Man creates a clone but only God creates a soul. So my conclusion is that the clone would not have a soul.

 

[Paidiske]

Hhmm. By that logic, do you think IVF babies have souls?

 

[SkyWriting]

a man is a man as far as God is concerned there is no difference when God creates us, what happens after that is up to our free will.

But God already knows those choices you will make before you are born.