BEWARE OF UNIVERSAL RECONCILIATION

[FineLinen]

Here’s my Bible based ‘opinion’.

Matt 18:9 “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven.

Dear Sage: Our Father sees every common bird fall, every one of these precious children (15K.)who die every day are near and dear to Him. For us who are not under the "age of accountability" rule, that same Father of all fathers reaches in astounding proportions knowing our total inability to please Him with our ragged tatters in which we clothe ourselves.

The doctrine of total depravity or total inability declares that all men, as a consequence of the Fall, are born morally corrupt, enslaved to sin, at enmity with God, and unable to please Him or even of themselves to turn to Christ for salvation.

Adam1 = many "made sinners">>>>Last Adam = many "made righteous".

 

[mmksparbud]

It has been given by me before, you just choose to ignore.

Below is the judgment After death where ‘FIRE saves’ on the day works are judged.

1 Cor 13:11. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be SAVED; yet so as BY FIRE.

Next verse is after death when EVERY KNEE bows and confesses. Both YOURS and THEIRS.

Phil 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

IOW same judgement seat and same confession from you and them. And if you think God is taking “glory” in sending people to eternal never ending and therefore purposeless torture, then you serve a God made in the image of the hearts of ‘past’ fallen men. And you just stand on their shoulders, never once even challenging that it’s a well rehearsed lie, from the father of lies.

2Tim 2:3 or this is right and acceptable before God our Saviour, or this is right and acceptable before God our Saviour, 4who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth;

Now you can believe that ‘your will’ can trump God’s will’ as the devil would have you believe, or you can agree with me that His will, will ultimately win.

What are you reading???
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
1Co 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
1Co 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

This chapter ends at verse 13.

It is

1Co 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1Co 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

This is definitely not talking about hell. You wishing it doesn't make it so. We are all tried--"as if by fire." If we endure, and the sin in our lived be overcome---we will be saved.

It is definitely God's will for every man to be saved---unfortunately---God has given us free will---we can choose to not be saved! God does not force the will---He doesn't torture us until we give in to His demands. We have this life in which to choose Him or not. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you have not proven your point at all.

Yes, all will bow before God---

Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

This passage however does not state that this is to be after hell. Are you assuming that hell is under the earth? Nothing says so.
When Jesus returns He comes for the saved. That is the 1st resurrection. The wicked stay dead till after the 1000 years, then they are resurrected for their judgement. Their judgment is the 2nd death---it is not a second life.

All the saved, everyone of us, will forever bend the knee and bow before our God. Those in hell will be burned up

Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.


You have not given the verses that I asked for.

 

[Der Alte]

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Below is the judgment After death where ‘FIRE saves’ on the day works are judged.
1 Cor 13:11. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be SAVED; yet so as BY FIRE.

This is a favorite proof text verse for the UR crowd. As quoted it certainly seems to say that the work of all men will be burned he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved.
But let us read the passage in-context.

1 Corinthians 3:9-17
(9) For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
(10) According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
(11) For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
(12) Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
(13) Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
(14) If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
(15) If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
(16) Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
(17) If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.​

This passage does not refer to all mankind but laborers together with God: God's husbandry, God's building. vs.9, every man that builds on the foundation of Christ vss. 11-12. "Any men, "every man,""no man" in this entire passage, including vss.15 and 17. refers to the same group as in vs. 9, not all mankind. So "any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." refers only to those who have built on the foundation of Christ, not all mankind. And vs. 15 does not say they will be saved by fire but "so as by fire."
And the piece de resistance is vs. 17 which clearly shows that the passage does not support UR. It says that anyone who defiles the temple of God will be destroyed, not saved.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

The converse of this condition is "He that overcometh NOT shall NOT inherit all things; and I will NOT be his God, and he shall NOT be my son."

Systematic not robotic theology der Alter. We're talking the living God, whose workflow involves creating something from nothing, life from death, hope from despair, honour from betrayal, rivers in the desert, fresh water springs in the sea, renewal, restoring sight to the blind, freeing the prisoners, healing the lepers and so forth.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

What are you reading???
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
1Co 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
1Co 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

This chapter ends at verse 13.

It is

1Co 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1Co 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

This is definitely not talking about hell. You wishing it doesn't make it so. We are all tried--"as if by fire." If we endure, and the sin in our lived be overcome---we will be saved.

It is definitely God's will for every man to be saved---unfortunately---God has given us free will---we can choose to not be saved! God does not force the will---He doesn't torture us until we give in to His demands. We have this life in which to choose Him or not. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you have not proven your point at all.

Yes, all will bow before God---

Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

This passage however does not state that this is to be after hell. Are you assuming that hell is under the earth? Nothing says so.
When Jesus returns He comes for the saved. That is the 1st resurrection. The wicked stay dead till after the 1000 years, then they are resurrected for their judgement. Their judgment is the 2nd death---it is not a second life.

All the saved, everyone of us, will forever bend the knee and bow before our God. Those in hell will be burned up

Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.


You have not given the verses that I asked for.

Why are you unsatisfied with Rev 21:24-26 and 22:2, which show the nations very much alive and being treated to life AFTER they've been:
(a) devoured by heavenly fire in v.20:9
(b) thrown in the lake of fire as unbelievers in 20:15.

It's a linear narrative and these events occur in the process of God making everything new in v.21:5, and Jesus offering the water in v.21:6.

So how would you explain that turn of events sister?

 

[mmksparbud]

Why are you unsatisfied with Rev 21:24-26 and 22:2, which show the nations very much alive and being treated to life AFTER they've been:
(a) devoured by heavenly fire in v.20:9
(b) thrown in the lake of fire as unbelievers in 20:15.

It's a linear narrative and these events occur in the process of God making everything new in v.21:5, and Jesus offering the water in v.21:6.

So how would you explain that turn of events sister?

Yes---this is the saved---

Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

The lost have already been destroyed.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

Yes---this is the saved---

Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

The lost have already been destroyed.

The words 'of them which are saved' are found in only a few rarer versions, and more erudite commentators (and not universalists) reject them.

Revelation 21:24 Commentaries: The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.

Those words are drawn from/ echo Isa 60:3:
"Nations will come to your light, And kings to the brightness of your rising.

And 62:2:
The nations will see your righteousness, And all kings your glory;

And Ps 22:27:
All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the LORD, And all the families of the nations will worship before You.

And the Abrahamic covenant in Gen 18:18 and 22:18:
since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed?

And the Gospel according to the angel Gabriel in Lk 2:10:
But the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people;

The gospel is good news of salvation for all. Damnation is bad news for all. Take your pick, life or death?

 

[mmksparbud]

The words 'of them which are saved' are found in only a few rarer versions, and more erudite commentators (and not universalists) reject them.

Revelation 21:24 Commentaries: The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.

Those words are drawn from/ echo Isa 60:3:
"Nations will come to your light, And kings to the brightness of your rising.

And 62:2:
The nations will see your righteousness, And all kings your glory;

And Ps 22:27:
All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the LORD, And all the families of the nations will worship before You.

And the Abrahamic covenant in Gen 18:18 and 22:18:
since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed?

And the Gospel according to the angel Gabriel in Lk 2:10:
But the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people;

The gospel is good news of salvation for all. Damnation is bad news for all. Take your pick, life or death?

LOL!! When you don't like it---change it!

Isa 60:3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
Isa 62:2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.

And none of these are speaking about after hell. Only the saved will be worshipping the Lord. Those that go into the lake of fire---die there. Life is to follow Jesus---that is what I do and the bible is His word and it says there is a hell and no one comes out of it. Show me the verse that says the lost will also inherit eternal life. You can not. There is no verse that says anyone comes out of the lake of fire unto life eternal with God. Choose life now---for you can not choose it after death.​

 

[Lazarus Short]

This is my commentary on chapter 28 of Deuteronomy, and it's rather telling:

The famous blessings and cursings of chapter 28 are silent on the subject of Hell. In the blessings, there is no mention of safety from Hell as a blessing, though it certainly would be if Hell existed. In the cursings, there is no threat of Hell, or any hint of its possibility in the afterlife. What God spells out as the blessings and cursings, are consequences of obedience or disobedience and they are entirely consequences in the here-and-now temporal world in which we live to this day. God’s most extreme threat to the living is death, and He expresses no threat against the dead at all. [end of excerpt]

You would think an honest God would tell you of the horrible possibility of Hell awaiting you at death, but He is consistently silent. Does it mean there is no such threat? Some here demand a clear statement that God saves ALL, but I failed to find a clear statement in the KJV that He doesn't, except in verses where "hell" was substituted for less-damning words.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

LOL!! When you don't like it---change it!

Isa 60:3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
Isa 62:2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.

And none of these are speaking about after hell. Only the saved will be worshipping the Lord. Those that go into the lake of fire---die there. Life is to follow Jesus---that is what I do and the bible is His word and it says there is a hell and no one comes out of it. Show me the verse that says the lost will also inherit eternal life. You can not. There is no verse that says anyone comes out of the lake of fire unto life eternal with God. Choose life now---for you can not choose it after death.​

Er, no that's not it. God promised Abraham that all nations would be blessed. The gospel is good news for all. God reconciles the world to Him in Christ. Ultimately God renews all.

If you prefer the 'of them which are saved' addendum, you may still like to explain how in Rev 20:8-9 Satan is released:

and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore.And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

Apart from some sweet flat earth proofs, we have here a mighty big army engulfed in holy fire. So which of these get saved? None? The odd yeoman? Who's left to walk by the lights of the New Jerusalem in 20:24?

I think you're caught between the devil and the deep blue sea on this one, madam.

 

[Lazarus Short]

I Samuel

Chapters 1 – 2

The Song of Hannah tells us in 2:6, “The Lord killeth, and maketh alive; he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.” Here is one of many examples of Hebrew parallelism, and “killeth” lines up with “bringeth down to the grave.” “Grave” here is that word “sheol” again, so often (mis)translated as “hell,” but don’t you see that hell = grave? Note that sheol or the grave is as far as God brings down, not further down to some literal or metaphysical Hell. Note also the parallel “maketh alive” and “bringeth up,” and this is an early hint of the coming resurrection. [end excerpt]

Again, we see Hell ignored, breezed by, glossed over - nothing to see here folks! God brings up, and that is that - no exceptions are mentioned.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Job, Chapters 1 - 2

Now, this is unexpected – Satan shows up among the “sons of God” in both chapters, and tells God that he has come before God, not from Hell, but from running around on the earth. This happens twice, so it’s not an isolated incident. We see two things here – one is that, as we saw in Genesis, the creation is not a prey between God and Satan, but a hierarchy of God, the cosmos, the heavens, the earth, man and so forth. Satan must ask God if he may act against Job, so Satan is subservient to God, part of God’s hierarchy. Also, note that Satan did NOT ask God if he could just drag Job down to Hell, a la Jonathan Edwards. Now what kind of lapse is that? Some folks would tell you that that is what Satan wants to do all the time with everyone. Oh, maybe there was no Hell to drag Job down to? Maybe Satan is only the Prince of Heck... [end excerpt]

One of the things I found in my search to see if Hell is real or not, is that there is no connection anywhere in the Bible, between Satan and Hell. Most Christians imagine a Heaven ruled by God and a Hell ruled by Satan, but I found no support for the latter. Yet, universalists are accused of twisting Scriptures and truth-denial.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Psalm 103

We are presented here with a view of God very different from the “Sinners in the hands of an angry God” God, beginning in verse 8: “The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy. He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever. He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities…As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us…For he knoweth…that we are dust.” There you have it – there is no mention here of punishment/destruction in Hell, but an indication of broad mercy, and a complete dismissal of the sins for which we might have been classed as wicked. It is still far better to repent and live righteously, but the wicked are not subject to eternal punishment for temporal sins – because we are only dust, dirt, carnal beings, and God knows it, for He made us so.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Psalm 136

Here I read (26 times!) this: “…his mercy endureth for ever.” Compare this God of mercy to the Hell theory god, who grants us our precious Free Will, and then when we exercise it badly, even in ignorance, He relegates us to Hell with no chance of reprieve. Compare the real Jesus, Who prayed to His Father for the sinners who were killing Him, to the Jesus of Mary K. Baxter who tells the damned in so many words, “Too bad, you screwed up, and here you are.” (Yes, I did read her book.) For that matter, take a look at the behavior of Jesus’ early followers, in the days when universal reconciliation (or whatever term they used at the time) was orthodoxy, versus the violence, torture, and bloodshed which later set in after the Hell theory became dominant. I know that during this period, entire nations disappeared from history, and others nearly did, for what the Church considered heresy. You see, gentle reader, either the Hell theory is correct, or God’s mercy endures forever – both cannot be true at the same time. If God’s mercy does endure forever, and I believe it does, then people cannot be sent to eternal torture, whatever excuses some may make for it – burning the wicked to ashes is more merciful, but as we shall see, God has more mercy in store for us than that. Let me say it again, for it bears repeating: universal reconciliation is mercy, annihilation is mercy (sort of), but eternal torture cannot be mercy. Psalm 136 and the Hell theory cannot both be true, and Psalm 136 is true.

 

[Lazarus Short]

In Isaiah 1:18, God tells His people, “Come now, and let us reason together…though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow…”. It is so easy to not see what this implies, but God is not leaving any possible gap in salvation – it is not a matter of MIGHT BE, but it is a matter of SHALL BE. God allows here no room for failure, falling short, or going to Hell. [end excerpt]

This comes very close to answering a poster on this thread who wants an explicit statement that God will save all.

 

[Lazarus Short]

After several chapters of the judgment of this nation or that, Isaiah tells us in 25:7 & 8, “And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the veil that is spread over all nations. He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord God will wipe away the tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the Lord hath spoken it.” With death at that time swallowed up in victory, how can anyone be still dead, or for that matter, in Hell? Now if we can think of the “covering” and the “veil” above in terms of graveclothes, I think we can see what God is trying to tell us here. It all hinges on His intentions, and thus far He has not spoken of eternal torture in a fiery Hell. On the other hand, He has spoken of the salvation of all peoples.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Hosea

The book of Hosea did not get “sheol” rendered as “hell,” but just as “grave,” which is not far off the mark. Besides the story of Hosea and his family, most of the book is devoted to God’s usual denunciation of the sins, backsliding, and wickedness of the people of Israel. Yet, in the midst of all that, is a statement, almost parenthetical: “I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction…” (13:14). The apostle Paul echoes this in I Corinthians 15:54. So, for all the evil of His people, God promises to ransom and redeem them from death and the grave – not to send them on to Hell, or any such place. In fact, He states that He will destroy death and the grave, as we shall see in the Revelation. [end excerpt]

Here again, inclusive salvation/redemption.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Habakkuk
Many believe God’s judgment to be the separation of the righteous from the wicked – one to Heaven and one to Hell. Yet, here is something for them to think on: “…we shall not die. O Lord, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction.” (1:12). The parallels between judgment and correction here suggest an outworking of God’s dealings with men very different from the usual idea of Heaven or Hell. [end excerpt]

Got it? Correction...not punishment.

 

[Lazarus Short]

The Bible is meaningful in what it says, and it is no less meaningful in what it does not say. Having deconstructed hell the word, and Hell the concept through 1,291 pages of Old Testament text, let’s take a more topical view. God’s Word fails to mention Hell in:

The creation account.

The historical narrative.

The poetical works.

The accounts of many, many deaths.

The Law given through Moses.

The denouncements against personal/national sins.

The many judgments against individuals/nations.

The various prophecies about the future.

The activities of the Serpent, Devil, Satan, Lucifer.

 

[mmksparbud]

Er, no that's not it. God promised Abraham that all nations would be blessed. The gospel is good news for all. God reconciles the world to Him in Christ. Ultimately God renews all.

If you prefer the 'of them which are saved' addendum, you may still like to explain how in Rev 20:8-9 Satan is released:

and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore.And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

Apart from some sweet flat earth proofs, we have here a mighty big army engulfed in holy fire. So which of these get saved? None? The odd yeoman? Who's left to walk by the lights of the New Jerusalem in 20:24?

I think you're caught between the devil and the deep blue sea on this one, madam.

Jesus comes for the saved--they are resurrected and go with Him for a thousand years. the wicked are dead and sty dead during the 1000 years.
Satan is released after the 1000 years. He is bound for a 1000 years and the saved are with Jesus during those 1000 years. After the 1000 years, Satan is loosed, the wicked are resurrected and he goes and gathers them against God.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.